Pakistan will come on monitor, if not today then tomorrow: Rajnath Singh on ceasefire violations

[axisofevil]

No more talks till Pakistan stops shelling and sniping. India should escalate the situation completely.

 

[JohnyD]

Now wait for our response!

sure! as if there wont be any response from IA!

 

[Razia Sultana]

India hits back, Pakistan seeks talks. At a flag meeting, India cowardice at full display. Its kills those who came for a flag meeting. This is the depravity of this enemy we are up against.

Now wait for our response!

Thats a face saving for pak army. if indian army did not stop at your white flags you would not have been able to take away the dead bodies of your soldiers.
What response? You fired at our soldier who was patrolling and killed him. Indian army retaliated. So if you want to continue this game then be ready for heavier casualties on your side.

 

[That Guy]

The fact that Pakistan sought to deescalate the situation and India kept rejecting it, makes Pakistan's story all the more credible. Keep that in mind, to whomever is applauding Indian action.

Thats a face saving for pak army. if indian army did not stop at your white flags you would not have been able to take away the dead bodies of your soldiers.
What response? You fired at our soldier who was patrolling and killed him. Indian army retaliated. So if you want to continue this game then be ready for heavier casualties on your side.

You will believe whatever your army tells you, just like Pakistanis will believe the PA. What are you getting out of this argument? Soldiers are dead on both sides, this is not a tome to argue, this is a time to start trying to get your politicians to stop antagonizing the situation, and that goes for Pakistani members here as well.

The last thing Pakistan needs is a second front to deal with, and for India to be distracted from dealing with China.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

There you have it @xyxmt , as I said, GoI has mandated our Defense forces to retaliate in multiple times the firing that Pakistani forces do.

As to why the GoI has asked them to fire heavy is in the second paragraph. Pakistan is still trying to push its strategic assets/ non-state actors to India.

It is necessary to transfer the non state actors to India, otherwise the destruction being wreaked will be on their land. Yahoos after all...

 

[JohnyD]

Loud mouthed Indians need to be shut up. We must openly assist Kashmiri separatists. Its the need of time to kick Indian as*

you have always been assisting Kashmiri separatists hence your as* is being kicked in your own land and thru your own trained animals!

 

[Peshwa]

The fact that Pakistan sought to deescalate the situation and India kept rejecting it, makes Pakistan's story all the more credible. Keep that in mind, to whomever is applauding Indian action.

The question is, who are we trying to win favors from?

These issues need to be solved bilaterally...if both parties continue with finger pointing, escalation of conflict is the only direction available for movement!
We need to give peace a serious chance...unfortunately, I dont know where it starts!

 

[SarthakGanguly]

India hits back, Pakistan seeks talks. At a flag meeting, India cowardice at full display. Its kills those who came for a flag meeting. This is the depravity of this enemy we are up against.

Now wait for our response!

Waiting.

It's unfortunate that an overzealous sniper from PA thought he could get away with some 'Indian hunting', like last year's beheading incidents. Times have indeed changed.

 

[That Guy]

The question is, who are we trying to win favors from?

These issues need to be solved bilaterally...if both parties continue with finger pointing, escalation of conflict is the only direction available for movement!
We need to give peace a serious chance...unfortunately, I dont know where it starts!

I know where it starts, it's time to ignore Kashmir and deal with everything else first. Unfortunately, neither side is willing.

The best way for either side to prove their claim is with equipping soldiers with body cameras.

 

[Bang Galore]

You will believe whatever your army tells you, just like Pakistanis will believe the PA. What are you getting out of this argument? Soldiers are dead on both sides, this is not a tome to argue, this is a time to start trying to get your politicians to stop antagonizing the situation, and that goes for Pakistani members here as well..

This I agree with.This is pointless loss of life. A terrible state of affairs.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

I know where it starts, it's time to ignore Kashmir and deal with everything else first. Unfortunately, neither side is willing.

You are among the very few on your side thinking out loud. Your establishment does not want to ignore Kashmir (for very good reasons). As for willingness, India is ok with the status quo and so is the world, only Pakistan is not.

 

[Razia Sultana]

The fact that Pakistan sought to deescalate the situation and India kept rejecting it, makes Pakistan's story all the more credible. Keep that in mind, to whomever is applauding Indian action.


You will believe whatever your army tells you, just like Pakistanis will believe the PA. What are you getting out of this argument? Soldiers are dead on both sides, this is not a tome to argue, this is a time to start trying to get your politicians to stop antagonizing the situation, and that goes for Pakistani members here as well.

Thats an old pakistani tactics to first fire at indians and when they retalliate and cause damage to PA, seek flag meeting. In past when India sought flag meetings Pakistani Officers denied or delayed it. Now the Indian forces have the approval of their bosses for retaliating in a befitting manner Pakistanis are feeling the heat. Unlike Pakistan Army Indian Army first seek approval of political bosses to take an action, while PA acts on their own and perhaps the pakistani political leadership would know about border skirmishes from the media.

 

[Peshwa]

I know where it starts, it's time to ignore Kashmir and deal with everything else first. Unfortunately, neither side is willing.

Honestly the Kashmir record has gotten so bloody boring...We gain so much from just turning the LOC into IB..end this stupid conflict. Its now becoming a war of ideologies, only problem is the abundance of hypocrites on both sides.

The best way for either side to prove their claim is with equipping soldiers with body cameras.

But why? This shouldn't be happening to begin with...it would be childish for us to find the entity to blame rather than a solution to the problem itself

 

[Bang Galore]

Honestly the Kashmir record has gotten so bloody boring...We gain so much from just turning the LOC into IB..end this stupid conflict. Its now becoming a war of ideologies, only problem is the abundance of hypocrites on both sides.

You know when I see the headlines about white flag, surrender etc..... I wonder what we have reduced ourselves to. Pathetic to see gloating over these deaths. Whether the Pakistanis can realistically agree to convert the LC to IB or not, there is much to be gained from reducing these type of face offs. Unfortunately that is something only the Pakistanis can do since as long as militants are being facilitated, there will be these kind of news on a regular basis. We need an agreement to freeze the Kashmir dispute for a period of 20-25 years atleast.

 

[SamantK]

You know when I see the headlines about white flag, surrender etc..... I wonder what we have reduced ourselves to. Pathetic to see gloating over these deaths. Whether the Pakistanis can realistically agree to convert the LC to IB or not, there is much to be gained from reducing these type of face offs. Unfortunately that is something only the Pakistanis can do since as long as militants are being facilitated, there will be these kind of news on a regular basis. We need an agreement to freeze the Kashmir dispute for a period of 20-25 years atleast.

Unrealistic, when the COAS of Pakistan is on record saying Kashmir is their jugular vein, there is no way a freeze will be agreed to.

I don't like even one of our soldiers being killed, what happened today is happening for so long despite all the talks which kept happening.

Demarches were served, diplomatic relations soured so many times that its a routine affair now. A different approach is required and at the face of a adversary which is bent on making an issue its jugular vein there is no logical way out.
We can only payback in kind cause no solution keeping in mind the situation will favor Pakistan.