Pakistan warns India: don't make provocative remarks

[GumNaam]

kiyon bay?! parha? ab bol day keh photoshopped hay and that Pakistan never took that fort and its surrounding areas! @Anik101

Yeah, dead silence as expected...face the cold hard and harsh reality... once Pakistan barged into rajasthan, india had no defenses and could not divert any forces in time either and nor did they have any control over their own airspace. Pakistan wouldn't be able to so easily March in if india had any control of its airspace. Reality talks...bullcrap walks!

jhoot kay payr nahi hotay...hamesha pakrra jata hay!

 

[Hellfire]

Okay.....I got confused with some other Kishangarh fort which is located atleast 500km from International Border.
Kishangarh fort captured by Pakistan is located 15km away from Tanot and is around 8km from International Border. Pakistan captured Kishangarh fort after Indian army capturing Gadra.

Indian had also captured Phillora several kilometres inside Pakistani territory in Sialkot sector.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Phillora
Entire area East of Ichogil canal in Lahore sector was captured.

Haji Pir Pass in Pakistan Kashmir was captured in August.
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/battle-of-hajipir-pass-1965.95263/

Dear @Anik101

There is only one Kishengarh which is of any major military action.

But I am amused to see you scampering. Let me make it a fort vs fort. Islamgarh You will find that a very interesting history, lost due to Longewala .... research it.

 

[Signalian]

Dear Sir.

I admit, here I relied on an old claim from a Pakistani member on some forum, something that I know should not have been done. With permission, will reference the same too. Allow me:

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source: http://www.pakdef.org/forum/topic/7060-pakistani-army-equipment-1965-1971-wars/


Further, if you may kindly look at the under posted photographs:


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M7 Priest with a 105 mm cannon

further reference: http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_M7_Priest.pdf

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A sexton, which was the Canadian product which replaced M7 Priests in British Army as the latter wanted to try their 25 Pounders on the platform as they were making the Field Gun

India has never operated this equipment after the demise of British Indian Army, having used FV433 Abbot 105 mm SPG and M-46 Catapult 130 mm SPGs.

Thread link https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indian-army-and-its-old-weapons-and-equipments.215631/page-2

Yar this is a claim by a member. Is there a pic of a unit patch? And Musharraf commanded 16 SP, not sure about 44 SP.

 

[Hellfire]

Yar this is a claim by a member. Is there a pic of a unit patch? And Musharraf commanded 16 SP, not sure about 44 SP.

I do not know. Please check at your end. Let us verify it.

But am not claiming anything on that. Merely giving you a source which I can find in open literature without working too hard.

The irony? Using a Pakistani member's claim to discredit another's (the original photographs posted)


What can I say?

Yar this is a claim by a member. Is there a pic of a unit patch? And Musharraf commanded 16 SP, not sure about 44 SP.

44 SP ... please read my posts ....... I have posted an extract from his memoir!!!!

I do not do so much work on riff raff

Thodi to kadar kar lijiye

Here:

 

[GumNaam]

Okay.....I got confused with some other Kishangarh fort which is located atleast 500km from International Border.
Kishangarh fort captured by Pakistan is located 15km away from Tanot and is around 8km from International Border. Pakistan captured Kishangarh fort after Indian army capturing Gadra.

Indian had also captured Phillora several kilometres inside Pakistani territory in Sialkot sector.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Phillora
Entire area East of Ichogil canal in Lahore sector was captured.

Haji Pir Pass in Pakistan Kashmir was captured in August.
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/battle-of-hajipir-pass-1965.95263/

That is yet another lie for door darshan samachar had fed you... haji pir pass was retaken by force, not "given back" after the war although india had tried to re retake it but failed all the way till the end of the war. It is with Pakistan even today. And your missing the bigger picture... once Pakistan had entered rajasthan, all the back n forth that india was struggling with on the sialkot and lahore areas fell flat on its face. india only had 3 tanks and some bsf infantry in the rajasthan area while everything else was diverted to kashmir and lahore areas. your genius planners left the entire southern border virtually defenseless. That is why your shastri had to run to the un for help waiving his dhotti begging for a ceasefire.

There's no denying these facts. stop living in a fool's paradise. india's only saving grace was Ayub Khan falling for american manipulation.

 

[Hellfire]

i have lived here for 30 years. this is different. one of the rare ones i would call these days.

That is nice. General region? I know @WAJsal is from Astore. What about you?

Personally, I love the region. Awesome beauty and calm serene locations away from population centers.

 

[Signalian]

I do not know. Please check at your end. Let us verify it.

But am not claiming anything on that. Merely giving you a source which I can find in open literature without working too hard.

The irony? Using a Pakistani member's claim to discredit another's (the original photographs posted)


What can I say?



44 SP ... please read my posts ....... I have posted an extract from his memoir!!!!

I do not do so much work on riff raff

Thodi to kadar kar lijiye

Here:

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Kadar kar li jiye?? .... ...Im not claiming that you are lying. I just know about 16 SP, i wasnt sure about 44 SP.
About sexton in PA, its a surprise for me.

 

[Anik101]

That is yet another lie for door darshan samachar had fed you... haji pir pass was retaken by force, not "given back" after the war although india had tried to re retake it but failed all the way till the end of the war. It is with Pakistan even today. And your missing the bigger picture... once Pakistan had entered rajasthan, all the back n forth that india was struggling with on the sialkot and lahore areas fell flat on its face. india only had 3 tanks and some bsf infantry in the rajasthan area while everything else was diverted to kashmir and lahore areas. your genius planners left the entire southern border virtually defenseless. That is why your shastri had to run to the un for help waiving his dhotti begging for a ceasefire.

There's no denying these facts. stop living in a fool's paradise. india's only saving grace was Ayub Khan falling for american manipulation.

There is no historical evidence which suggests that Shashtri requested UN for Ceasefire or Pakistan Army took back Haji Pir before Tashkent agreement.

Man seriously!!!!.... Another one of your blatant lie is caught. BSF was created on 1 December 1965 and didn't even existed during the war....LOL

 

[GHALIB]

Good to see that Chinese Media has found its only admirer

true

 

[Tom M]

The seeds of the fire burning in iok today were sowed in 1965. Now your own citizens are doing our bidding for us and that too, FOR FREE! Sounds like a victory to me.

And who's bidding are your citizens doing for sometime now. Including the latest Chinese consulate attack, any guess ???

 

[Av8er]

And still we manage to captured more land .............Wow... be realistic.... Don't make funny as always.... In the history, pakistan army has won any single WAR but Still world best army as per PDF.

Yet you have no decent Indian forum to visit and have to troll your BS on Pakistan Defense Forum.

 

[GumNaam]

There is no historical evidence which suggests that Shashtri requested UN for Ceasefire or Pakistan Army took back Haji Pir before Tashkent agreement.

Man seriously!!!!.... Another one of your blatant lie is caught. BSF was created on 1 December 1965 and didn't even existed during the war....LOL

Not a lie at all... just substitute bsf for the mechanism you had for border control, simple as that. I know you had one, just don't remember the name of that agency so I used bsf, big deal! And you want historical evidence? your own chief of army staff general chaudhri recommended to your shastri that an immediate ceasefire must be attained as india was all out of ammo and taken immense losses and therefore, is no longer able to defend against any further attacks by Pakistan. go look it up! And before you say it, I am very well aware that indians call it ineptitude on your general chaudhri's part and that he presented an inaccurate and obscure picture to your shastri and how he stole india's "victory" to hide his own mistakes and all that blah blah blah, yeah save it for someone who buys into your door darshan samachar horse manure. The fact is that he literally told shastri that he can no longer sustain the war (and he was right) so shastri has to get a ceasefire. As for haji pir, it was with Pakistan before the war, was with Pakistan after the war and is with Pakistan even today. what more historical evidence could their be?!

And who's bidding are your citizens doing for sometime now. Including the latest Chinese consulate attack, any guess ???

3 idiots versus an entire population and he thinks that makes it even...

Ah yes, thur comedy that is the indian mind...

 

[Hellfire]

About sexton in PA, its a surprise for me.

Imagine my surprise then. I get a lot of surprises on PDF, rich imaginations here, I must say.

Do verify, if you can, at your end. I can be wrong and you may have merely fielded M7 Priest. I rely only on what I can find in public domain to post here.

 

[Anik101]

Not a lie at all... just substitute bsf for the mechanism you had for border control, simple as that. I know you had one, just don't remember the name of that agency so I used bsf, big deal! And you want historical evidence? your own chief of army staff general chaudhri recommended to your shastri that an immediate ceasefire must be attained as india was all out of ammo and taken immense losses and therefore, is no longer able to defend against any further attacks by Pakistan. go look it up! And before you say it, I am very well aware that indians call it ineptitude on your general chaudhri's part and that he presented an inaccurate and obscure picture to your shastri and how he stole india's "victory" to hide his own mistakes and all that blah blah blah, yeah save it for someone who buys into your door darshan samachar horse manure. The fact is that he literally told shastri that he can no longer sustain the war (and he was right) so shastri has to get a ceasefire. As for haji pir, it was with Pakistan before the war, was with Pakistan after the war and is with Pakistan even today. what more historical evidence could their be?!


3 idiots versus an entire population and he thinks that makes it even...

Ah yes, thur comedy that is the indian mind...

We didn't had any dedicated force or mechanism to monitor the border before 1965.

 

[GumNaam]

We didn't had any dedicated force or mechanism to monitor the border before 1965.

Wrong. the present day bsf duties were carried out by cprf or crpf, I don't remember the words behind the abbreviation but there was definitely a police type force that worked on the borders. None the less, you failed to prove me wrong. shastri was convinced that india was loosing the war and so he went running to the un with a bleeding bunghole pleading for a ceasefire.