Pakistan warns India: don't make provocative remarks

[Hellfire]

Two wrongs wont make one right, all i am saying. Will wait for January! (Though i will be traveling abroad in Jan)

You travel then, will be later on. No hurries. Have a great trip

 

[My-Analogous]

Agreed

Indian never dares to direct conflict with Pakistan. They use proxies and then send army to cover locals otherwise they are bunch of useless in direct conflict and always runway. Give me any example of direct conflict India won without local peoples?

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

India has UK empire strenght but want to herite its glory and hegemony!!!

 

[My-Analogous]

Replace India with Pakistan and this statement stands true.
Be it 1947 or 65 war or even Kargil war. Your denial mode needs self assessment!

Thank you for your garbage, now go back to your proud Rapistan (GuyHind)

 

[Hellfire]

BTW, did GOI or Indian MOD ever revealed the casualties or circumstances behind this blunder.

Dear @Windjammer

Sorry for the delay in your specific query as mentioned above.

I had to undertake a serious and thorough check before replying to you, a task made very difficult and time consuming as when 'facts' are created, it is very difficult to disprove them

Sorry, but you have again been a victim of falsification/delusion/misinformation (is some one really trying to undermine your credibility further?). This is as true as another of your post as under:

Let us examine the situation that I faced. I had to comment on a claim about a claim made, discrediting the said claim. A situation of "Heads I win, Tails you lose"

Points for your action:

1. Please provide link of specific claimed "Propaganda Clip" from where the said Photograph has been taken
2. Please, if you can, do provide a link of claims of shooting down a C-130 as made by India
3. Please provide relevant evidence to prove that the No 6 Squadron PAF, the sole squadron with C-130s during the war, did not undertake any bombing sorties in the region.
4. Please provide the links for loss of An-12 which details a loss took place, as claimed by your 'evidence'


I shall be quite willing to actually verify this one


Further, refer to the photograph as under:

Can you explain to me, why:

a. Is the photograph till the edge of a print page as marked by blue line in above? And why the dissonance in the edge of the text with respect to the edge of photographs?

b. Why are there sticker/paper holder edges in the photographs as marked in red?

and lastly, why is there, on the right of you on the screen, a straight edge on a curving page darkening?




Oh by the ways, there were two squadrons having An-12s - 44 Squadron and 25. Neither have lost an An-12 till the well recorded crash on 07 Feb 1968. I took my time getting the war diaries dredged up and checked as also pertinent records, not to mention, asking the veterans of the era to verify.

They are quite amused to know that they have lost a crew in 1965 without their knowing ... let me know the name of the pilot so that the said pilot and crew can be informed they are dead (if not already dead due to age).

@Nilgiri @MilSpec @Joe Shearer @nair @Sam.

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

As long as Xi Jinping presses a button, all Indians will be extinct.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Thank you for your garbage, now go back to your proud Rapistan (GuyHind)

So he gives you a straightforward refutation, and this is what you dredged up? Seriously? Garbage? Rapistan? Have you nothing else to say after you have run out of platitudes and straight statements with nothing to back it up?

As long as Xi Jinping presses a button, all Indians will be extinct.

He has pressed the button.

We are already extinct.

Please can you now find some other graveyard to haunt?

@Arsalan
@hellfire

Tagged you both as an extension to your side-conversation. I agree with Arsalan; while you were away, that place became a deep and murky swamp. Couldn't take the bigotry and hatred for more than a month or so, just about the time that you dived into exam schedules. BUT, Arsalan, this is the kind of bilge that we have to wade through; adds NOTHING to any thread, nothing whatsoever. It cannot be moderated, IMO; it's too much like hunting mice.

Meanwhile, I wish you luck, hellfire, in the wars that are to begin, if you mean business.

 

[D Boss]

As long as Xi Jinping presses a button, all Indians will be extinct.

Brainwashd Chinese and Xi zing ping are very good Jokers..

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

Brainwashd Chinese and Xi zing ping are very good Jokers..

This is not for you indians but for Yankees but we can always make the special arrangments！！

Every chinese brain is clean and sacred than your Ganges River！

 

[Hellfire]

@Arsalan
@hellfire

Tagged you both as an extension to your side-conversation. I agree with Arsalan; while you were away, that place became a deep and murky swamp. Couldn't take the bigotry and hatred for more than a month or so, just about the time that you dived into exam schedules. BUT, Arsalan, this is the kind of bilge that we have to wade through; adds NOTHING to any thread, nothing whatsoever. It cannot be moderated, IMO; it's too much like hunting mice.

Meanwhile, I wish you luck, hellfire, in the wars that are to begin, if you mean business.

Don't know what happened, and frankly, the effort required is too much, my return saw bans being handed out, something that I alluded to - the ability to control the dimwits.

I am still vacillating between a desire to increase my knowledge by interactions with relevant people and moving away from all due to sheer fabrications, lies and the adherence to the adage "my ignorance is as important as your knowledge".

Just for my own amusement, you being aware of my correlation with the 44 Squadron (and 25 Squadron) and my ability to access both the veterans and the relevant documents, I undertook this journey, for own curiosity. After all, if we lost an aircraft to friendly fire, it, a case of what is referred to as 'blue on blue', would not be the first nor the last in the history of warfare. However, contrary to what is being peddled here, nothing to it.

Thank you for the wishes sir. I shall really take a long though on whether it is worth the effort to straighten the facts here or not. The "Green Chaddis" have taken over

 

[D Boss]

This is not for you indians but for Yankees but we can always make the special arrangments！！

Every chinese brain is clean and sacred than your Ganges River！

These are not for Show off.. These can liberate Tibet , so dont mess with us.

Cow dung Smell better than Chinese..

and remember we are also Nuclear power if the war goes nuclear..

 

[Joe Shearer]

Don't know what happened, and frankly, the effort required is too much, my return saw bans being handed out, something that I alluded to - the ability to control the dimwits.

The problem is that the other founding fathers are scared to take a stand; they feel that at this stage, they need eyeballs. The result is a rice-pudding sort of attitude by the admin.; it doesn't work. You have to keep out permanently damaged minds.

I am still vacillating between a desire to increase my knowledge by interactions with relevant people and moving away from all due to sheer fabrications, lies and the adherence to the adage "my ignorance is as important as your knowledge".

I feel you should participate, with discrimination, ignoring trolls, communicating with the knowledgeable and the open-minded. I also feel that you should continue here. Your engagement in that other place is a personal labour of love you have undertaken, and IMHO, should be a parallel effort.

Just for my own amusement, you being aware of my correlation with the 44 Squadron (and 25 Squadron) and my ability to access both the veterans and the relevant documents, I undertook this journey, for own curiosity. After all, if we lost an aircraft to friendly fire, it, a case of what is referred to as 'blue on blue', would not be the first nor the last in the history of warfare. However, contrary to what is being peddled here, nothing to it.

Not being aware of the matter under discussion initially - your protagonist is on my ignore list, one of the scanty handful in that list - I came to figure out what was going on very late, and must thank you for the entertainment.

Thank you for the wishes sir. I shall really take a long though on whether it is worth the effort to straighten the facts here or not. The "Green Chaddis" have taken over

Please let us ignore them and proceed. There are still very many decent people, several times the number elsewhere. Now that @jbgt90 is eyebrow-deep in professional work, and has his very charming young family to croon over, your walking away into an electronic sunset will be a loss. _/\_ Don't walk.

 

[Joe Shearer]

@hellfire

Who is this nincompoop Suvarna Teja? He knows nothing and acts very knowledgeable.

 

[Windjammer]

Dear @Windjammer

Sorry for the delay in your specific query as mentioned above.

I had to undertake a serious and thorough check before replying to you, a task made very difficult and time consuming as when 'facts' are created, it is very difficult to disprove them

Sorry, but you have again been a victim of falsification/delusion/misinformation (is some one really trying to undermine your credibility further?). This is as true as another of your post as under:

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Let us examine the situation that I faced. I had to comment on a claim about a claim made, discrediting the said claim. A situation of "Heads I win, Tails you lose"

Points for your action:

1. Please provide link of specific claimed "Propaganda Clip" from where the said Photograph has been taken
2. Please, if you can, do provide a link of claims of shooting down a C-130 as made by India
3. Please provide relevant evidence to prove that the No 6 Squadron PAF, the sole squadron with C-130s during the war, did not undertake any bombing sorties in the region.
4. Please provide the links for loss of An-12 which details a loss took place, as claimed by your 'evidence'


I shall be quite willing to actually verify this one


Further, refer to the photograph as under:

View attachment 524023

Can you explain to me, why:

a. Is the photograph till the edge of a print page as marked by blue line in above? And why the dissonance in the edge of the text with respect to the edge of photographs?

b. Why are there sticker/paper holder edges in the photographs as marked in red?

and lastly, why is there, on the right of you on the screen, a straight edge on a curving page darkening?




Oh by the ways, there were two squadrons having An-12s - 44 Squadron and 25. Neither have lost an An-12 till the well recorded crash on 07 Feb 1968. I took my time getting the war diaries dredged up and checked as also pertinent records, not to mention, asking the veterans of the era to verify.

They are quite amused to know that they have lost a crew in 1965 without their knowing ... let me know the name of the pilot so that the said pilot and crew can be informed they are dead (if not already dead due to age).

@Nilgiri @MilSpec @Joe Shearer @nair @Sam.

Seems you have a lot of spare time on your hand and at the same time need your country fellows to pat your back for encouragement. Sadly i don't have that much time to waste however just to put your mind to rest, the picture appeared in a book called ''Story of PAF Heroes'' covering the 1965 war and published in 1967.
All your nit pick observations are driven by the fact that i merely folded the book to photocopy the particular page.
In any case i doubt that fifty years earlier a small publisher in Pakistan had the technology to regenerate the image and for all your efforts of getting your red marker out well sorry to say you are neither that observant to be critical of works of professionals, pity you had to use the Mirage picture to give your self some extra weight, lest you forget that i didn't create that image and like so many others accepted it as it appeared but can you really compare some fan art with the work of an historian.
BTW, your esteemed observation highlighted by the red marker are nothing more than the edges of a camera or projector film which was shown by the Indians in London and elsewhere.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Seems you have a lot of spare time on your hand and at the same time need your country fellows to pat your back for encouragement. Sadly i don't have that much time to waste however just to put your mind to rest, the picture appeared in a book called ''Story of PAF Heroes'' covering the 1965 war and published in 1967.
All your nit pick observations are driven by the fact that i merely folded the book to photocopy the particular page.
In any case i doubt that fifty years earlier a small publisher in Pakistan had the technology to regenerate the image and for all your efforts of getting your red marker out well sorry to say you are neither that observant to be critical of works of professionals, pity you had to use the Mirage picture to give your self some extra weight, lest you forget that i didn't create that image and like so many others accepted it as it appeared but can you really compare some fan art with the work of an historian.
BTW, your esteemed observation highlighted by the red marker are nothing more than the edges of a camera or projector film which was shown by the Indians in London and elsewhere.

This is the very definition is nitpicking.

Typical Indian response to being proven wrong.