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Pakistan to sell 05 to 07 JF-17 Thunder Fighter Planes next year

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Sri Lanka Secretary Defence Mr. Gotabaya Rajapaksha in Pakistan

IDEAS - International Defence Exhibition & Seminar

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The first pic shows HAFR-1 anti runway penetration missile (also exported to Azerbaijan with ToT) and Hijara Top-Attack Submunitions Dispenser (TSD-1) cluster bomb... (guide kits also produced and marketed).... not much info abt its exports...
 
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Strange that when PAF is struggling to meet its own demand of JF 17 (only 30 odd planes manufactured in over 3.5 years), they are talking of exporting it to third/fourth rung military powers. Lack of additions and talks of export to small countries could point towards Pakistan giving up on the platform and trying to recover its investments via exports..

Read 45... 6-8 came from China.. by next year BLK-II will be inducted (which as per Chief of PAF) has been produced... and is a little late because of "administrative issues"..
 
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Read 45... 6-8 came from China.. by next year BLK-II will be inducted (which as per Chief of PAF) has been produced... and is a little late because of "administrative issues"..
Sir really you mean block II as off now being tested that is good news
 
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Read 45... 6-8 came from China.. by next year BLK-II will be inducted (which as per Chief of PAF) has been produced... and is a little late because of "administrative issues"..
Read 45... 6-8 came from China.. by next year BLK-II will be inducted (which as per Chief of PAF) has been produced... and is a little late because of "administrative issues"..
you already had 1 full squad(15 planes) by feb 2010. since then, only 30 odd planes manufactured in 3.5 years
 
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Strange that when PAF is struggling to meet its own demand of JF 17 (only 30 odd planes manufactured in over 3.5 years), they are talking of exporting it to third/fourth rung military powers. Lack of additions and talks of export to small countries could point towards Pakistan giving up on the platform and trying to recover its investments via exports..

Likely the current government has asked PAF to help itself with foreign exchange issues. I have absolutely no problem with Pakistan inducting JF-17 at a slower, but more consistent pace. Inducting 20 instead of 25 per year is no matter, as long as it helps current government plans and vision. This is not abandonment of JF-17; that would be a very short-sighted view (easy for you BTW). It is more a case of sustainability of a project by self-financing. Moreover, by producing at capacity, the cost per unit would be kept as low as possible.

In any case, your conclusions just follow the partiality of your mind-set. Pakistan is committed to this bird and saying anything to the contrary is just plain dumb.
 
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Likely the current government has asked PAF to help itself with foreign exchange issues. I have absolutely no problem with Pakistan inducting JF-17 at a slower, but more consistent pace. Inducting 20 instead of 25 per year is no matter, as long as it helps current government plans and vision. This is not abandonment of JF-17; that would be a very short-sighted view (easy for you BTW). It is more a case of sustainability of a project by self-financing. Moreover, by producing at capacity, the cost per unit would be kept as low as possible.

In any case, your conclusions just follow the partiality of your mind-set. Pakistan is committed to this bird and saying anything to the contrary is just plain dumb.

Its not 20 or 25 per year. From an induction perspective (discounting the unofficial accounts of how many have been manufactured), PAF has only inducted 20 planes in last 3.5 years.
 
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Likely the current government has asked PAF to help itself with foreign exchange issues. I have absolutely no problem with Pakistan inducting JF-17 at a slower, but more consistent pace. Inducting 20 instead of 25 per year is no matter, as long as it helps current government plans and vision. This is not abandonment of JF-17; that would be a very short-sighted view (easy for you BTW). It is more a case of sustainability of a project by self-financing. Moreover, by producing at capacity, the cost per unit would be kept as low as possible.

In any case, your conclusions just follow the partiality of your mind-set. Pakistan is committed to this bird and saying anything to the contrary is just plain dumb.
Also, 5-6 planes in an year will generate a revenue of 150 million USD max out of which if half goes to China, you are talking 75 million USD. Hardly a number to impact Forex issues of Pakistan
 
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Also, 5-6 planes in an year will generate a revenue of 150 million USD max out of which if half goes to China, you are talking 75 million USD. Hardly a number to impact Forex issues of Pakistan
Per unit cost of JFT as per singapore airshow reported in media was 30million dollars.
Add to this the support and weapon cost.

So the H khan figure of 40-44million dollars per JFT for PAF could be very much true and around 50million dollars for for each export variant with support and weapons package included.

For 7 JFT almost 300-350million dollars
 
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Per unit cost of JFT as per singapore airshow reported in media was 30million dollars.
Add to this the support and weapon cost.

So the H khan figure of 40-44million dollars per JFT for PAF could be very much true and around 50million dollars for for each export variant with support and weapons package included.

For 7 JFT almost 300-350million dollars
it is 15 to 20 mil jft block 1
and 20 to 25 mil jft block 2 depending upon configuration avionics etc.
 
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it is 15 to 20 mil jft block 1
and 20 to 25 mil jft block 2 depending upon configuration avionics etc.


Past tense..here are official and latest price quoted by janes

China sees JF-17 exports 'within five years'
February 16, 2012

By James Hardy Asia-Pacific Editor - Singapore

China is aiming for major exports of the Chengdu Aerospace Corporation (CAC)/Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) JF-17 Thunder aircraft over the next five years, the president of the China National Aero-Technology Import and Export Corporation (CATIC) told IHS Jane's at the 2012 Singapore Airshow on 14 February.

Ma Zhiping said that China expected to sell up to 300 of the multirole aircraft to "Middle East and African" countries in the next five years. The platform, which China co-builds with Pakistan, is significantly cheaper than Western or Russian alternatives while providing a similar capability.

Ma compared the single-engined JF-17 to the single-engine Lockheed Martin F-16, saying that "for the same capability we can compete on price". The JF-17, costing around USD30 million, is perhaps more comparable to the Boeing F-15 Strike Eagle, which costs about USD100 million per unit.

China has yet to enter a fighter aircraft in an open competition. If it does achieve overseas sales of the JF-17 beyond Pakistan, it will likely achieve them through a direct military sale.

it was reported in November 2011 that the Pakistan Air Force programme team at PAC in Kamra are finalising the design for the Block 2 version of the JF-17. The main features of the next iteration of the aircraft include a new advanced avionics suite and an air-to-air-refuelling capability, as well as the development of a two-seat variant. There is also a new version of the aircraft's China Electronics Technology Corporation (CETC) KG300G electronic warfare suite that expands the coverage of its frequency band.

CATIC also believes it can make substantial sales of the L-15 single-engined light attack fighter, which it also produces and markets as an advanced jet trainer. Ma said that six countries had tested the L-15 and he expected its first export sale this year, perhaps at November's Xuhai Airshow. "We'll have an international contract this year," Ma said.

The L-15 is in the same class as the Korean Aerospace Industries T-50 - also on the export market as a light fighter as the T/A-50 - and the Alenia Aermacchi M-346.

China's burgeoning unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) industry is also seeking export customers, with CATIC again highlighting the medium-altitude, long-endurance Wing Loong UAV at Singapore. Reportedly cleared for export since 2009, the Predator-class UAV was developed by the Chengdu Aircraft Design and Research Institute and is in service with the People's Liberation Army, according to Ma.

Ma added that the UAV, which has an operational ceiling of 5,000 m, range of 200 km and endurance of two hours, had attracted interest from "traditional customers", predominantly African and Middle Eastern countries looking for next-generation capabilities on a budget.
 
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Also, 5-6 planes in an year will generate a revenue of 150 million USD max out of which if half goes to China, you are talking 75 million USD. Hardly a number to impact Forex issues of Pakistan

Pakistan funded 60+% of the costs for the project... see previous posts/pages.
 
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Also, 5-6 planes in an year will generate a revenue of 150 million USD max out of which if half goes to China, you are talking 75 million USD. Hardly a number to impact Forex issues of Pakistan

It is not quite a matter of generating funds, but rather shouldering a part of the financial burden. Plus, working at capacity brings its own savings. You are too fast in typing your replies. It would have been better to wait a bit to reflect upon the meaning of what you are typing. Your figures are totally wrong and out of whack. You sure do not work in finance, I can tell.
 
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It is not quite a matter of generating funds, but rather shouldering a part of the financial burden. Plus, working at capacity brings its own savings. You are too fast in typing your replies. It would have been better to wait a bit to reflect upon the meaning of what you are typing. Your figures are totally wrong and out of whack. You sure do not work in finance, I can tell.
Can you please throw some light on why the figures are out of whack. Approx price for a JF 17 is USD 30 million. Multiply that by 5 and you get $150 million. Divide by 2 gives you $ 75 million. Isn't it. Simple arithmetic. One doesnt need to work in Finance to do simple multiply and divide :)
 
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