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Interesting can't visualize the need for new system if we inducted MRL-100 but if it is a better system why not ?
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Pak produces KRL-122 and has exported it to several countries.
Its ranged and guidance was upgraded, with a bit of help from "NEXTER" ... Or atleast was planned.
Not very exciting when you have :
45 Km Ranged KRL-122
Indigenous development not procurement as per the year book.
Might see a new version of KRL-122.
single most important deterance would be a decent airforce, there is where we are lacking
if we dont have resources that atleast we need thunders in good numbers, and some older f-16s
having the infrastructure to develop large calibre gunsWonder what stops them from developing Arty guns.
What is next? Nuclear pigeons?Point to be noted: they are focusing on systems that deliver max fire power with min time and effort. They expect a war to be swift, short and brutal. With entire batteries of indigenously produced MLRS, some of whom could potentially be nuclear, advancing Indian columns will face a wall of fire and get decimated completely. South Asia saw the largest battle of tanks previously. In case of war, it might see the largest exchange (or at least a one sided attack) of MLRS firepower. I shudder to think of the resulting death and destruction.
What is next? Nuclear pigeons?
Please understand what nukes are and what they are meant for. We are not putting nuclear warheads on every other system. That would be crazy and STUPID.
We did sir. We are making it ammunition at home as far as i am aware.it seems the case If I remember correctly we bought A-100 with production licence
What are you saying?We did produced MKEK Panter under license from Turkey,it was having weight of 18 ton,is SP howitzer we just have inducted 72,we just as I think have scrapped them due to weight,see how intelligent we are,just couldn't take weight reduction path and develop a new system it still out guns any Artillery piece India is fielding.40km
I don't know why people are even discussing it. Arming your artillery with nukes mean that you wont be able to use the very basic tool of war, that is the artillery, openly in the war fearing that the enemy may think this artillery is nuke equipped and attacked in similar manner. IN Pakistan-India case, the firing of a ballistic missile will trigger the nuclear war (the missiles do not need to be equipped with a nuke) since the response time is so low, both sides will react at the first sign of disturbance. We should all just hope that it do not comes to that.Not nuclear pigeons, but I was only hinting that nuclear artillery has been discussed before:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/evolution-of-pakistans-tactical-nukes.489543/#post-9390023
Panter is NOT SP! It is a towed artillery piece and not a self-propelled one.
SIPRI was listed as source.
- We never produced 72 guns. The Wikipedia got it wrong.
may be koi mojza ho jayeThey'll rename A-100E and shove it down our throats. That's HIT for you. No genuine R&D, just rebranding of locally produced imported technology.
For heaven sake i am talking about a full force capable of supporting a Div,a formation which makes the difference.Dhanush is operational with 8 guns of 155/45
delivered to army Rest all 114 will be delivered By 2019
V2 vesion of dhanush 155/52 which is under trial will be produced after all guns first phase delivered by 2019
I guess total contract was for 300 guns.ne more add to this is which i forgotten OFB metamorphosis gun basically m-46 coverted into 155/45 range 39 Km with RAP rounds by soltam
Source: http://www.ofbindia.gov.in/products/data/weapons/wlc/4.htm
180 already inducted 155/45 mm into service developed by OFB/soltam
Bro, it is an APU, meant for small maneuvering and that is it! It will be towed to the area of operating and is not self-propelled category but remains a towed artillery equipment. It is not deployed to the area on its own.Sir,it 160 HP APU allows it to travel upto 18km/h.
RUMORS are that SIPRI was wrong about this. Some 12 were originally brought from Turkey but PA was not satisfied with its performance and the follow up 60 that were to be made by HIT were not pursued.SIPRI was listed as source.
then sir how many were produced.
I think NESCOM will be more involved in such a project. Lets see what happens.They'll rename A-100E and shove it down our throats. That's HIT for you. No genuine R&D, just rebranding of locally produced imported technology.
We have tactical ballistic missiles for these ranges. Modernizing and upgrading them can be the easy way out.Pakistan should get A-200 and A-300 systems on ToT basis and produce in large numbers.
I think MLRs are much more cost effective solutions than BMs and I know what they are thinking and that is really smart of them and I don't see any point in discussing and revealing it here.We have tactical ballistic missiles for these ranges. Modernizing and upgrading them can be the easy way out.
Bahi why are you doing that "Su35 SCAR thingy" here?I think MLRs are much more cost effective solutions than BMs and I know what they are thinking and that is really smart of them and I don't see any point in discussing and revealing it here.
Okay right now I'm at my office but inshaALLAH if I remember, I will give you a partial answerBahi why are you doing that "Su35 SCAR thingy" here?
IN similar range category, same mechanism a quasi ballistic missile will be in same price range and will justify the few extra bucks in shape of capabilities. However MBRL are a threat itself but a 120-150 Km range for such system is more than enough. Anyway, it is a pointless debate here since we are just discussing our wishes