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By the way is it first time that they have shown a Missile hitting its target or they have shown even before ????????????
Correct, I overlooked that. Still, it would mean these 8 subs cannot to much else besides sitting there and be a nuclear deterrent. Simply put, they would seek to remain undiscovered as best they could i.e. avoid any activity that can give them away. Which would leave PN with a gaping hole in its ASW, notwithstanding 8 SSKs. Likewise for anti-surface action (i.e. deterring aircraft carrier action). Also, I doubt PN would/can have these 8 subs out there at sea all at the same time (for pov of logistics, maintenance needs, crew fatigue etc. so in practice the number of 96 would unlikely be achieved at any given moment, unless with ample planning and up front and then only for a short duraton i.e. a first strike scenario.)It factors in 6 torpedoes for each
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I don't know if you noticed but I have in fact congratulated Pakistan several times now.it is a very difficult and complicated technology, Pakistan has achieved a technological milestone with this Submarine launched cruise missile.. you should congratulate Pakistan on this..because usually one has to buy them off the shelf either from the US or France or others, and no one will give you ToT for this, so it is quite an achievement for Pakistan to be self sufficient in this very vital field..you can think of it as a 3rd, but minimum deterrent for now, still it is an important step for full 3rd capability deterrence..
If you read my post, you'll find out that I have agreed with you, I asked you to congratulate Pakistan , since you haven't done it in that post, I saw you latest posts where you did, please do not take it personally, I was not lecturing you, i was just asking, since it is a milestone as I have mentioned in my post. minimal or maximal, for now it provides some new deterrent.. and for the 5 submarine requirement , Pakistan has them,,5 Agosta, 2 diesel-electric and 3 diesel-electric with AIP and Pakistan as for latest news was also working on communication links with its subs..So take it easy..I don't know if you noticed but I have in fact congratulated Pakistan several times now.
The above post you quoted explains how a cruise missile is launched from underwater. It does not contain any reason fro you to lecture me on what I should or should not do. In fact, I have in the past been pointing out here that there was no publicly available evidence that Pakistan had managed to produce this launching technique, precisely because having a submarine and having a missile alone is necessary b ut not sufficient condition. And in this thread I pointed out that one launch does not yet equal a credible sea based deterrent yet (PN would need at least 5 SSKs operational, all of which fitted for targeting and firing this particular missile as well as key communiations links to land, air and ship based command and control assets.) Pakistan is moving in that direction, but like I said, one launch doesn 't mean all the required stuff is in place and operational at this time.
I don't know if you noticed but I have in fact congratulated Pakistan several times now.
The above post you quoted explains how a cruise missile is launched from underwater. It does not contain any reason fro you to lecture me on what I should or should not do. In fact, I have in the past been pointing out here that there was no publicly available evidence that Pakistan had managed to produce this launching technique, precisely because having a submarine and having a missile alone is necessary but not sufficient condition. And in this thread I pointed out that one launch does not yet equal a credible sea based deterrent yet (PN would need at least 5 SSKs operational, all of which fitted for targeting and firing this particular missile as well as key communiations links to land, air and ship based command and control assets.) Pakistan is moving in that direction, but like I said, one launch doesn 't mean all the required stuff is in place and operational at this time.
north Korea has sanction and many more which had made more progress
I don't know if you noticed but I have in fact congratulated Pakistan several times now.
The above post you quoted explains how a cruise missile is launched from underwater. It does not contain any reason fro you to lecture me on what I should or should not do. In fact, I have in the past been pointing out here that there was no publicly available evidence that Pakistan had managed to produce this launching technique, precisely because having a submarine and having a missile alone is necessary but not sufficient condition. And in this thread I pointed out that one launch does not yet equal a credible sea based deterrent yet (PN would need at least 5 SSKs operational, all of which fitted for targeting and firing this particular missile as well as key communiations links to land, air and ship based command and control assets.) Pakistan is moving in that direction, but like I said, one launch doesn 't mean all the required stuff is in place and operational at this time.
In Europe, the naval C4I systems industry is dominated by Thales, which builds a number of systems including Senit, Sewaco, Sic-21, Stacos, Tacticos and TavitacNow, if the Babur-3 was indeed launched from a SSK belonging to the PN—and the PN has only three Agosta 90B and two Agosta 70B SSKs all of which are equipped with the THALES-supplied SUBTICS combat management system—then the fire-control system servers required for computing and transmitting the firing solution for/to the encapsulated Babur-3 would have to be integrated with the SUBTICS and the 533mm torpedo launch-tubes. This is an impossible task, given the fact that THALES does not share the operating source-codes of thre SUBTICS’ fire-control algorithms with anyone other than than own nation.