Pakistan slams Pentagon, summons US ambassador over report accusing it of harbouring terrorist

[PlanetWarrior]

guys
I have a suggestion to solve this issue once and for all
we people of Pakistan will really want the end to this proxy wars and we will do what we can to stop it if its happening from Pakistan. we have removed both the Democratic and military dictators from the offices so we shouldn't be taken lightly


oh yea the suggestion

what about instituting a team of say 3 or 4 neutral countries along with the members from India, Pakistan and Afghanistan and America and then Pakistan arrange their visit to all suspected sites where these training camps, or hide outs are, let the teams speak to the people freely and if such places are found they are dismantled on the order of Pakistan supreme court and the responsible people charged. if nothing is found then such allegation be put to rest

once that is done


we move to the interesting part

how about we repeat the process along the Pak Afghan border and visit say Kunar and Nooristan? and get the guys expelled or handed over to Pakistan? charge the complicit Afghans punched by the Afghan government? and see if indeed those Indian cultural centers are doing doing something culturally or are more interested in cross border activities of BLA?

I am not aware of any terrorist camps in India today like in the past there were training MQM camps when MQM was openly fighting against the Pakistan state and the working of Makti bahani terrorist training in India is well known and Indians even brag about it since they got their desired outcome. if there are any Indian terrorist camps in India then they also be visited and dismantled


in summary, the Blackops activities of assassinations, subversion, unrest , funding etc be discontinued and once we have purged these elements then we join hands and curb the funding and inflow of funds and terrorists from central Asia and Middle east .


Or we just ignore everything Pakistan says and only focus on Pakistan and continue to blame it whether or not such places are found or not? (we tried that it didnt work)


trust me Americans and Indians and "innocent peace loving Afghans" we Pakistani people are really fed up with this proxy war because we have suffered a lot so we will like to help you to deny terrorists from using our land against other countries. should we expect the same favor from you? would you address our concerns? hmmm?

Really great suggestion. An anti-terrorist committee comprising members from Pakistan, India and Afghanistan (and possibly even Iran since they have made accusations in this respect). Laudable. Which begs the question, what are the chances of your military accepting the proposal even if it was placed on the table? It certainly would bring a measure of stability to South Asia and would open the doors to most issues being peacefully resolved

 

[idune]

How many threads ...are Indians going to make ..on the same topic? And then they say ...Pak is obsessed with India

It was a hallow message by US to appease indians just so they can take consolation for having left out feeling in Afghanistan.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Really great suggestion. An anti-terrorist committee comprising members from Pakistan, India and Afghanistan (and possibly even Iran since they have made accusations in this respect). Laudable. Which begs the question, what are the chances of your military accepting the proposal even if it was placed on the table? It certainly would bring a measure of stability to South Asia and would open the doors to most issues being peacefully resolved

I see a lot of nay sayers
you got to take the first step

get this implimented via United nations. Dont single out one country but go through every country in question and have Neutral countries like Japan, Malaysia (just an example) for keeping neutrality.
perform spot checks. and use intelligence to ensure that the place is not packed up before checking

and countries should NOT abuse this drive by demanding to check say sensitive installations or missile sites and research centers for example.

India and Pakistan have history of using proxies against each other. whoever deny that is a hypocrite. I am not making a moral debate here but calling upon people of the subcontinent to take it up with their government as its detrimental to peace.
I will leave Iran out for now because Iran is a victim of Israel/ Arab and Western blackops as well in addition to Wahabi Jundullah terrorism.

lets start from home

 

[PlanetWarrior]

It was a hallow message by US to appease indians just so they can take consolation for having left out feeling in Afghanistan.

This is a discussion between members of two powerful states. I suggest that you restrict your observations to the high jump section of Bangladesh Defense Section

 

[arbit]

If you have read OBL incident in detail, do you know, On whose name, this house was bought ? It was a Pakistani some guy named Haji for whom the house was bought. The house was in a pashtun locality. meaning very conservative. THe women don't go out, children rarely roams free. So the house doesn't raised any red flags neither people complained to police about suspicious activities emanating from such house. Neither There was any electronic emissions coming out from house through.

OBL moved there because of the most conservative locality, Military academy nearby which would make ISI less prone to look in to that area thinking it would be covered by Military intelligence and Local police informers.

So pray tell us,How come ISI would have known about the family residing in the house when there weren't any red flags raised. Neither through electronic emissions nor through human intelligence ?

Don't you see the psychological advantage he exploited i.e. Taking advantage of human psyche that All is well in a particular area and doesn't check it often

Now coming to Intelligence lape. ISI caught Indonesian terrorist from abbottabad in 2010. ISI became relax that all is well in that area and it paid the price of it's negligence dearly.

Plausible deniability Sir. You keep it from your side, we will keep from ours.

 

[nair]

dont stop at one person dont limit yourself to one individual like Hafis Saeed or Dawood or say Herbayar Bughti or say Mullah Fazlullah etc. I am talking about the full deal . complete cleanup process. no exceptions.

@nair neutrals like say Japan, Sri Lanka , Turkey or Malaysia (just examples) that enjoy respect and trust from all 3 countries will ensure that we dont just blame and counter blame each other like Kashmir issue, where either side blames the other for stalling the peace process and talks and we are on to square one. I am talking on the lines of say InterPol or UN inspection thing .. if you put the pride to one side and be really sincere about peace and end of mutual proxy wars then no foreign terrorism will be able to affect us. problem with us 3 is that we ABSOLUTELY ignore the protests of the other party, even boast and showcase the antagonists to others to tease (e.g Dawood Ibrahim from us to you, Mullah Fazlullah from Northern Alliance to us, and Herbayar & Bramdagh (now in Europe) from you guys to us as an example).

I agree with your intentions and a dispute like ours really needs out of the box ideas....... Well before inviting a third party, i think the most important point is both country show sincerity...... When ever there was a sincere attempt, the other party has done some thing to topple it....... for ex, Lahore trip which was followed by kargil.........

Our issues a complex because of the number of parties involved in it....... Even if both govt sincerely try to find peace, then there are parties who survives on hatred, their existence itself will be in trouble, and they will try every trick in book to screw this sincere efforts.......

 

[Natama]

Pakistan slams Pentagon, summons US ambassador

Instead of above statement, should it not be "
Pentagon, US ambassador summons Pak PM!"

What's really funny that both India and Afghanistan are sponsoring terrorist activities in Pakistan and responsible for the blood shed of thousands of Pakistani's as stated by their defence secretary Hagel but there is no mention of that...If we are sponsoring terrorist activities in India then why is India so peaceful with no blasts or what so ever...

Kashmir is not peaceful. Thanks to you. If you cross Kashmir, we will be least tolerant. You know that, don't you?

We are waiting for sanctions. This could be the first step for a sanction.

 

[Bratva]

US commander commends Zarb-e-Azb for disrupting Haqqani network's ability to target Afghanistan

WASHINGTON: Operation Zarb-e-Azb has helped disrupt Haqqani network’s ability to launch attacks on Afghan territory, a senior commander for US and NATO forces in Afghanistan said.

In a Pentagon-hosted video briefing from Afghanistan on Wednesday, Lieutenant General Joseph Anderson said Haqqani network was now fractured just like the Taliban.

“That’s based pretty much on the Pakistan operations in North Waziristan this entire summer-fall,” he said, while acknowledging the effectiveness of Zarb-e-Azb.

“That has very much disrupted their efforts here (in Afghanistan) and has caused them to be less effective in terms of their ability to pull off an attack in Kabul,” Anderson added.

The US commander’s remarks came just a day after Pakistan lodged a strong protest with the US over allegations made in Department of Defence report titled “Progress Towards Security and Stability in Afghanistan.” The report accused Pakistan of letting proxy forces operate against Afghanistan and India

Afghanistan

Lieutenant General Joseph Anderson. PHOTO: AFP

In the briefing, the US general also referred to success of the Afghan national security forces against the Haqqani network, which he described as one of the many threats affecting security in Afghanistan. The network, he said, is focused more on the high profile attacks.

Anderson revealed that 4,634 members of Afghanistan’s police and army have been killed in action this year, while in 2013, around 4,350 members lost their lives.

“This (number of casualties) is not sustainable,” he said.


Like Good terrorist and bad terrorist, Are there Good Americans and Bad americans? Good ones commend Pakistan, Bad ones accuse Pakistan !

There you go. You know where the LeT is having its head quarters,so what have you done to curb it?. You yourself now have admitted to harbouring terrorists inadvertently.

Technically It is jamat ud dawa HQ in muridke not LeT

 

[Irfan Baloch]

US commander commends Zarb-e-Azb for disrupting Haqqani network's ability to target Afghanistan

that nameless Pentagon report writer must exchange notes with this General on the ground.

I recall those "reports" back in the days before prep to second Gulf war where there were WMD in Iraq which were never found and the shameless Tony Blair changed the title to WMD "Programs"

 

[Kloitra]

and countries should abuse this drive by demanding to check say sensitive installations or missile sites and research centers for example.

For what purpose?

 

[SirHatesALot]

Why does US comes up with such BS?
They need Pakistan.

 

[rockstar08]

Arre Kaka, Whole world knows that US gives Aid to Pakistan for its own operation which are aided on Pakistani soil by none other than Pak Army.

aray bhai ... if everyone knows than there must be some written prove no ?

 

[WAR-rior]

aray bhai ... if everyone knows than there must be some written prove no ?

Well. Is there any written proof that ur Army is more powerful than ur civilian govt? Is it written anywhr that on foreign policies pertaining to Army, civilians have no locus standi?

 

[Donatello]

Seems like few billion dollars aid for PA is now in trouble. They need to siphon the funds from ministers pockets I suppose

Hey, not a biggie. Your Navy and Airforce are on a self destruct mode, so no need to hurry.

 

[rockstar08]

Well. Is there any written proof that ur Army is more powerful than ur civilian govt? Is it written anywhr that on foreign policies pertaining to Army, civilians have no locus standi?

than its not true ... its not our rule that anything which has no prove is a " Conspiracy theory "