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Pakistan seeks new US deal after returning nine choppers

Its look like those helis were under ministry of interior ,,,,,,,, and on rent or what ever , so now the ministry looking for fresh deal for new and better helis may be again on rent or some other agreement.
 
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LOL, Pakistan will always have to buy this sophisticated military hardware. It doesn't have the intelligence to actually manufacture it.
:o:, look up ballistic and mirv nuclear missles, nuclear capable LACM's and CM's and air launched CMs, look up al khalid tanks, look up Pak made Apc's and mraps, look up Pakistan made trainer Mushak aircraft which ur idiotic country bought from us, look up jf 17 jet fighter, look up the small arms n ammunation n artillery n its ammunation among other heavy ammunation made by us among a host of other things not mentioned here.
 
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:o:, look up ballistic and mirv nuclear missles, nuclear capable LACM's and CM's and air launched CMs, look up al khalid tanks, look up Pak made Apc's and mraps, look up Pakistan made trainer Mushak aircraft which ur idiotic country bought from us, look up jf 17 jet fighter, look up the small arms n ammunation n artillery n its ammunation among other heavy ammunation made by us among a host of other things not mentioned here, u pathetic desert monkey whose country is a littpe bitch vessel of the Us n cant even manufacture a needle. f**k off u pathetic troll.

Dude why bother. Treat him as one of those trolls who only come to get jollies. He is obsessed with Pakistan which is funny bcz he has no relationship to Pakistan nor does Pakistan want any with him. A Canadian national is lecturing us on our army and how we should make Pakistan and how we are not good Muslims. Hypocrisy.

Anyway ignore him. We on w out achievements and how far we have come that we are even selling jet fighters and have capable military hardware of domestic produce. Is more required? Yes! But all in due time. Considering the rocky 70 years we have spent, we have done amazing with what little we have...

He is most likely sad that our military gave terrorism a blow that not even super powers could give and have reduced terrorism drastically to numbers that were not even dreamt of.
 
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Have you considered the age of the helicopters. Replace them with new ones. Remember these were heavily subsidised due to American narcotics tracking. Pakistan Did the right thing
Have you considered how difficult it would be now to acquire anything from the US these days? Also the purpose the age of the helicopter wasnt even raised as an issue. The ministry of Ch Nisar decided to return them however now Ashan Iqbal thinks we should have them. Nobody is going to replace them with new ones unless we intend to buy them and place an order for such.
 
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Have you considered how difficult it would be now to acquire anything from the US these days? Also the purpose the age of the helicopter wasnt even raised as an issue. The ministry of Ch Nisar decided to return them however now Ashan Iqbal thinks we should have them. Nobody is going to replace them with new ones unless we intend to buy them and place an order for such.
Not have the same ones.....Replace them with new one.
I am with you on not getting stuff from the US
 
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I was there at AeroIndia, when they announced this jointly. Turbomeca may well have sold it to Russia and to China, as they had the right to do. Whether there was an older engine based on which this was developed, I don't know.



Well, you are heading that way. Asad Durrani notwithstanding. I think his recent interview was whistling past the graveyard.
Ardiden existed before... H1 variant used by india is an upgrade .. with 25% more power... indian contribution is financial.
Otherwise a JV Partner cant sell without the approval of the other...
 
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Ardiden existed before... H1 variant used by india is an upgrade .. with 25% more power... indian contribution is financial.
Otherwise a JV Partner cant sell without the approval of the other...

Yes, that's what I said, I think. That the JV partner sold with permission and knowledge. If I remember (it's years now), the arrangement was that each party should have the right to sell, subject to a small share of royalty to the other.

I don't know about the contribution being financial only. There were deputy managers and managers in the Engines Division, on the Old Madras Road, who mentioned that they were working on this JV.
 
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Chill out guys, don't go in personal attack or any kind of attack.

Currently we don't have technical, industrial and scientific bases to build our own helicopters alone. That's unfortunately true. And if we choose to start alone, then be ready to fund billions dollars in the project...

But we can, and must start to explore any possible cooperation with Turkey, China and others friendly countries. It will be less expensive and we could get some TOT.
 
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why not if free ? as those huye served the purpose well. all maintenance carried out on the expense of americans plus training and employment of Pakistani pilots , i guess it was a good deal .
the variety of machines with aviation from americans , french and now russians are some how better if sanctions like situation comes but at the same time expensive as well in terms of maintaining the different machines without transfer of technology.
 
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The bottomline is that economic development is the need of the hour. Pakistan and Pakistanis re reaching a critical point.
 
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The returned once were used heavily, new deal would be for newer frames with newer tech and equipment.

I dont understand why would you return them only to ask for them latter? I think US did offer to keep the helis however the interior ministry at the time chose not too.
 
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