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Pakistan rejects NATO 'regrets' and 'Self Defence' Claims

The apology worths nothing, instead the USA should get the fck out of Afghanistan and leave Pakistan alone!!! :angry:

What has US being in Afghanistan, a sovereign country, got to do with Pakistan ? That's between US and Afghanistan.

Correct statement should have been : US should not indulge in cross-border actions resulting in violation of Pak sovereignity.
 
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NATO has not apologized , they just made a statement of investigating the accident..

couldn't understand what make the army gernals of pakistan that NATO has apologized ....funny !!


just read it clearly
“I have written to the prime minister of Pakistan to make it clear that the deaths of Pakistani personnel are as unacceptable and deplorable as the deaths of Afghan and international personnel,” NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said in a statement.

i couldn't get , where they has apologized , anybody ?

Nato has apologised, calling it a "tragic unintended incident".

BBC News - Pakistan denies firing provoked Nato border attack

There is a thing known as indirect channels. If you have any beef with this, contact the BBC staff.
 
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NATO is an enemy of Pakistan. I hope Pakistan Army realizes who is Pakistan's enemy and who is Pakistan's friend.

Bring it son. Pakistan is just full of talks. Nothing happened and nothing will happen. Life will continue to go on as normal once again.
 
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BEIJING: China’s Foreign Ministry said on Monday it was “deeply shocked” about a Nato cross-border air attack that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers and urged respect for Pakistan’s independence and sovereignty.

“China is deeply shocked by these events, and expresses strong concern for the victims and profound condolences to Pakistan,” Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said in a statement on the ministry’s website.

“China believes that Pakistan’s independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity should be respected and the incident should be thoroughly investigated and be handled properly,” he said.

Pakistan has reacted with fury over the Nato cross-border air attack that could undermine the US effort to wind up the war in Afghanistan.

Nato described the killings as a “tragic unintended incident” and said an investigation was under way. A western official and an Afghan security official who requested anonymity said Nato troops were responding to fire from across the border.

China says
 
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So as of now Turkey, China & the OIC have come up with strong statements for this incident.
 
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US and Pakistan: deadliest of friends

With the deaths of 24 Pakistani soldiers in an air strike, the US may have made its costliest mistake of the war in Afghanistan

How bad can a relationship between two military allies get? If this year's tally of incidents is anything to go by, Pakistan's rage against the American military machine can get a lot worse. First came the affair over Raymond Davis, the CIA agent who shot dead two men who had pulled up in front of his car at a traffic light in Lahore. Then came the US raid that killed Osama bin Laden in the Pakistani garrison town of Abbottabad. And now this.

An Afghan special forces operation, backed up by Nato troops, allegedly came under fire from across the border. Afghan troops, another report goes, called in Nato airstrikes, and two Pakistani military posts were hit, killing 24 soldiers. The reaction in Pakistan ranged yesterday from cold fury (it is just not believed in Pakistani military circles that Nato was unaware of the co-ordinates of the two military posts in the village of Salala) to hot conspiracy: America was the "big evil". The politician Imran Khan told thousands of supporters on Saturday that it was time to end the alliance with the US. It would be folly to dismiss this as mere populism. After a year like this, the Pakistani military will have to cope with rising levels of pressure from within its own ranks to end co-operation with the US.

The Afghan element to this tale of friendly fire is also troubling. If, as US forces start to draw down, Afghan troops take the lead in highly sensitive areas like these, where the exact line of the border is unclear, then this weekend's woeful events may not be the last. As it is, it would not take much for Pakistani and Afghan troops to open fire on each other. On the Afghan side of the border in Kunar province, there was little doubt that the US military had done the right thing. They were congratulated for hitting the right target. On Saturday the Afghan president, Hamid Karzai, approved a second list of areas where Afghan forces will start taking the lead from Nato troops. As it is, the US is reluctant to give the Afghans fast jets or heavy artillery for fear of what they would do.

The short-term response is not as troubling as the long-term implications. Pakistan closed two border crossings and gave the US 15 days to quit Shamsi airbase in Baluchistan, from which it flew drones targeting militants in the tribal areas. The closures will make Barack Obama more dependent on Vladimir Putin's goodwill, and the northern supply route through which 60% of troops and military cargo to Afghanistan now travel. But, of itself, the closures will be a temporary problem. Of greater significance is the erosion of Pakistani public support for the US fight against the Taliban. It would not be the first strategic mistake the US had made in this war, but it could yet prove the costliest.

US and Pakistan: deadliest of friends | Editorial | Comment is free | The Guardian
 
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ARY News blunder: wrong video footage being aired as NATO attack
ARY news is reporting old Taliban attack video that was created by a Pakistani soldier regarding a taliban attack few years back is being reported as a fresh footage they have received from someone.
Had they investigated a bit or asked around they could have seen it already posted on youtube and discussed on forums many times before the NATO attack.

The video shows dead and injured Pakistanis on the ground and a Pakistani cobra flying in the air which actually came to save the convoy

I don’t have time toehr wise I would have called them and told them that this video has nothing to do with NATO attack.
 
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What's going on inside Pakistan at the moment? There's hardly any new news on TV or newspapers. I will be very surprised if the PPP government or the army chief is not forced out of office.
 
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US and Pakistan: deadliest of friends

With the deaths of 24 Pakistani soldiers in an air strike, the US may have made its costliest mistake of the war in Afghanistan

How bad can a relationship between two military allies get? If this year's tally of incidents is anything to go by, Pakistan's rage against the American military machine can get a lot worse. First came the affair over Raymond Davis, the CIA agent who shot dead two men who had pulled up in front of his car at a traffic light in Lahore. Then came the US raid that killed Osama bin Laden in the Pakistani garrison town of Abbottabad. And now this.

An Afghan special forces operation, backed up by Nato troops, allegedly came under fire from across the border. Afghan troops, another report goes, called in Nato airstrikes, and two Pakistani military posts were hit, killing 24 soldiers. The reaction in Pakistan ranged yesterday from cold fury (it is just not believed in Pakistani military circles that Nato was unaware of the co-ordinates of the two military posts in the village of Salala) to hot conspiracy: America was the "big evil". The politician Imran Khan told thousands of supporters on Saturday that it was time to end the alliance with the US. It would be folly to dismiss this as mere populism. After a year like this, the Pakistani military will have to cope with rising levels of pressure from within its own ranks to end co-operation with the US.

The Afghan element to this tale of friendly fire is also troubling. If, as US forces start to draw down, Afghan troops take the lead in highly sensitive areas like these, where the exact line of the border is unclear, then this weekend's woeful events may not be the last. As it is, it would not take much for Pakistani and Afghan troops to open fire on each other. On the Afghan side of the border in Kunar province, there was little doubt that the US military had done the right thing. They were congratulated for hitting the right target. On Saturday the Afghan president, Hamid Karzai, approved a second list of areas where Afghan forces will start taking the lead from Nato troops. As it is, the US is reluctant to give the Afghans fast jets or heavy artillery for fear of what they would do.

The short-term response is not as troubling as the long-term implications. Pakistan closed two border crossings and gave the US 15 days to quit Shamsi airbase in Baluchistan, from which it flew drones targeting militants in the tribal areas. The closures will make Barack Obama more dependent on Vladimir Putin's goodwill, and the northern supply route through which 60% of troops and military cargo to Afghanistan now travel. But, of itself, the closures will be a temporary problem. Of greater significance is the erosion of Pakistani public support for the US fight against the Taliban. It would not be the first strategic mistake the US had made in this war, but it could yet prove the costliest.

US and Pakistan: deadliest of friends | Editorial | Comment is free | The Guardian


Northern Alliance is another likely suspect here
Americans might have been fooled into attacking the post, also note that the Afhgan army is also quoting itself as a source of alleged Pakistani post firing which led to the air strike.

The Afghan troops (mainly NA dominated officers and footmen) are the ones that requested the air strike and might have played the Americans into attacking Pakistanis. The Northern Alliance has never made its anti _Pakistan approach a secret and the feeling is shared. Both Pakistan and Northern alliance don’t trust each other and have confronted each other directly and indirectly on ground and through diplomacy.

The other likely suspects the be the Russians. Maybe not in this particular incident but through the world of espionage, confusion, misinformation and covert operations Why? Well its payback time for what Pakistan and USA did to them back in the 80s. it might seem far fetched and I agree specially in this incident but in the overall Afghan Pakistan crises the Russians might be playing their own game.
 
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i f america has done this.. then its a revenge for pakistan stabbing nato in the back by supporting taliban to kill nato. so they are justified. i say just give 10 lakh rupees blood money and enf this tamasha

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lol.. thats funny

you are a funny person ... innocent people died and you are justifying it ... next time any of your indians dies of any reason dont blame us when we make fun of it ....

NATO started this killing in afghanistan and Pakistan... personally i think bharti cannot see where this is leading ... in case of any open conflict india will loose something in afghanistan as well ..... so watch your words ....
 
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55%: Pakistan a U.S. enemy | Poll Position

A majority of Americans do not see Pakistan as a friend to the United States. In a Poll Position national scientific telephone survey we asked, do you consider Pakistan to be a friend or enemy of the United States? An enemy to the U.S. was the choice of 55%, 7% considered Pakistan a friend, 26% did not consider Pakistan a friend or enemy, 12% did not have an opinion.


Now decide for yourself..who is friend and who is foe.
 
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Pakistan has denied reports that it opened fire first provoking the Nato air strike which killed 24 troops at a checkpoint on the Afghan border.

It follows claims by Afghan officials that Nato forces were retaliating for gunfire from the Pakistani side of the volatile border region on Saturday.

On Sunday Pakistan's army chief led mourners as those killed in the strike were buried at military headquarters.

Nato has apologised, calling it a "tragic unintended incident".

But the attack has heightened already tense relations between Pakistan, the US and Nato. It took place at two remote border posts in Pakistan's tribal district of Mohmand in the early hours of Saturday morning and recriminations have been pouring in response to the attack .

Unnamed Afghan officials quoted in The Wall Street Journal said that Saturday's attack was called in to shield Nato and Afghan forces who were under fire while targeting Taliban fighters. One official quoted in the paper says that Kabul believes the fire came from an army base.

"This is not true. They are making up excuses. What are their losses, casualties?" Pakistani army spokesman Maj-Gen Athar Abbas said in a text message in response to the allegations.

Maj-Gen Abbas has also said that the raid went on for more than an hour and continued even after local commanders contacted Nato telling them to stop the strike, according to the Associated Press news agency.

Pakistani officials have consistently maintained that there had been no militant activity in the area, and most of the Pakistani soldiers were asleep. They also said Nato had the grid references of the posts and therefore should not have fired.

'Grave infringement'

Pakistan's Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani called it a "grave infringement of Pakistan's sovereignty" and officials responded by cutting key supply Pakistani lines to Nato in Afghanistan.

The BBC's M Ilyas Khan in Islamabad says that public anger has intensified amid growing demands from Pakistan's opposition parties to sever all ties with the US.

On Monday lawyers staged protests across the country and Reuters news agency reports that Pakistan's fuel suppliers have said that they will not resume supplies to Nato forces in Afghanistan any time soon.

Nato chief Anders Fogh Rasmussen said he had written to Mr Gilani to "make it clear that the deaths of Pakistani personnel are as unacceptable and deplorable as the deaths of Afghan and international personnel".

Nato has said it is investigating what happened.

In a joint statement, US Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, offered their condolences for the loss of life, backed the investigation into the incident and stressed the "importance of the US-Pakistani partnership, which serves the mutual interests of our people".

The night-time attack took place at the Salala checkpoint, about 1.5 miles (2.5 km) from the Afghan border, at around 02:00 on Saturday morning local time (21:00 GMT Friday).

The Pakistani army said helicopters and fighter aircraft hit two border posts, killing 24 people and leaving 13 injured. Local officials said the two posts were about 300m apart on a mountain top.

Military sources earlier told the BBC's Quentin Sommerville in Paktika province in Afghanistan that a US-Afghan special forces mission had been in the area, where they believed a Taliban training camp was operating.

They said the mission came under fire from a position within Pakistan, and they received permission from the headquarters of Nato's Isaf mission to fire back.

The incident looks set to deal a fresh blow to US-Pakistan relations, which had only just begun to recover following a unilateral US raid that killed Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan in May.

Pakistani troops are involved in fighting the Taliban in the crucial border region area. Hundreds of militants have been resisting attempts by the security forces to clear them from southern and south-eastern parts of the district.

BBC News - Pakistan denies firing provoked Nato border attack


Anyone else buy this? :disagree:
 
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