Pakistan proposes Muslim Blue Berets for Afghanistan

[Luftwaffe]

policing the world is a US responsibility and curse.

What is the logic and criteria of giving default policing responsibilities to US.

 

[DelhiDareDevil]

^^ Your point??

Pakistan should focus on itself and no body else, as history shows, muslims nations have rarely listened to Pakistan, especially arabs.

They should stop proposing things with muslim nations, as it hardly materalise, infact China will be more likely to listen to you guys tbh.

 

[DelhiDareDevil]

Sligthly out of topic, but do any Pakistanis can visualise any kind of Muslim organisation, that can operate beyound any corners of the world ?

 

[mjnaushad]

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So what do the Afghans want is decided by Pakistan military and officials? Looking at those results, Pakistan will get its *** whipped by Afghanis even worse than the US. Pakistan has a history of supporting an evil extremist regime over Afghans to seek their own benefits, so any suggestion by Pakistn purporting to be for the betterment of Afghanis is highly susceptible.

No Pakistan cant decide what afghan want... pakistan can give suggestion for better afghanistan ...Its upto them to accept it or not....

2ndly India also have history of supporting terrorism... So if India in Afghanistan not good for Pakistan.... And if this is not good for Pakistan it can't be good for Afghanistan....

The idea to what the Afghans want is clear in that survey and not what you want to do in Afghanistan. Apparently 91% of Afghanis don't consider Indians infidels, after all how can someone who sends doctors to treat them and builds roads for them be evil.

You really don't know afghanistan do you? Ever met a afghan?? I've lived my life with them.... And i can provide you 3000 right now who dont want India in Afghanistan.... They are so pakistani that they prayed for Pakistan in Pakistan V Afghanistan match.....

That is how statistics and the science of sampling works, did they teach you to do it differently in your school? If so, please enlighten me. I thought journos were skilled at sampling, apparently you are an exception. Perhaps you could bring me a more comprehensive survey to prove your point, but I highly doubt it.

The case of afghanistan is different... The opinion vary from area to area......

That is what you fail to understand about Afghanistan. Pakistan wants to keep it under its thumb for its military and strategic objectives at the cost of Afghanis, India on the other hand is involved with humanitarian assistance and building relationships with common people though its efforts, the results of which are out there to see for all, despite cries and pleas by Pakistan of concocted terrorism and imaginary embassies.

India did work in Afghanistan and the amount it spent on the work double of it spent on advertising it........And publishing mirch masala news.


While pakistan even in this economic condition did work for Afghans.... and didn't start a media campaign to show the world how angel we are....

Thats the difference of how you work and how we work...

 

[bandit]

But sirjii, the thread is not about the involvement of India, Pakistan or Iran..In a country which has everything connected with traditions, religion and culture being part of it and is deep, involvement of nations other than NATO would be a welcome sign, especially if its by moderate Muslim nations like the ones Pakistan has suggested.

If a poll (like the one you have provided) is conducted whether a non- muslim or a muslim should be part of the peace keeping force most would go for the later one.( common sense). So its basically keeping the sentiments of Afghans themselves.

In Indian point of view, we would be more comfortable to deal with the suggested countries on any day than the NATO due to regionality commonness and strong bilateral relations.

I am not for India getting any more involved in Afghanistan than the current scope of efforts. Its cost us way less in manpower and money t o generate much more goodwill than the Americans and that is good enough. However what I was pointing out was if moslem countries like Iran and Pakistan are not favored by Afghanis over a supposed infidel country like India, I doubt they will welcome total strangers from Bangladeh or Malaysia just because they are *******. How similar culture do you think a Malaysian would have with an Afghan? They'll just end up being viewed as another invasion force. Btw i think this proposal is too outlandish, nobody's gonna get into the mess of A'stan just cause of religious brotherhood.

 

[mjnaushad]

Pakistan should focus on itself and no body else, as history shows, muslims nations have rarely listened to Pakistan, especially arabs.

They should stop proposing things with muslim nations, as it hardly materalise, infact China will be more likely to listen to you guys tbh.

Did you go through the link? Apparently not, since it mentions 34 districts of A'stan.
I've lived life with afghans and i know them..... i ain't believing some biased poll... If they hate us why don't they call their families back to Afghanistan.. Why are half of their families still living in this country which they hate???

 

[Paan Singh]

we dont say they are against India. i openly support BD and China against Indian ills.

two different cases here.

anyway you dint reply if the poll you take as authentic then why dont you suggest sending Indian army to Afghanistan

we dont say they are against India. i openly support BD and China against Indian ills

jana ji,there is something due to which u run to support,i still remember u were the first who posted fake wikileaks article here.
btw wat india had done to chinese,BD.i can explain this wrt u but thats not here,it will be off topic.

anyway you dint reply if the poll you take as authentic then why dont you suggest sending Indian army to Afghanistan

every thing is going according to american strategy here.
for ex-america want pakistan to take action in NW,but pakistan refuses here,now as arm twisting here which america does there will be option which says indian army to be stationed there in a-stan.
definitely pressurising pakistan.
i will advocate to send few thousand soldiers there,
as per ur point.

thats not my view,i read it on some american website few months ago mentioning plan a,b,c,d,e etc.
this is part of strategy here.let the time come,it may happen

 

[DelhiDareDevil]

I am talking about Muslims forces or organisations, not about Pakistan and Afghanistan links and ties.

 

[mjnaushad]

Pakistan should focus on itself and no body else, as history shows, muslims nations have rarely listened to Pakistan, especially arabs.

They should stop proposing things with muslim nations, as it hardly materalise, infact China will be more likely to listen to you guys tbh.

Prosperous Afghanistan is what Pakistan want and what Pakistan need....


So indirectly we are thinking for Pakistan....

 

[bandit]

No Pakistan cant decide what afghan want... pakistan can give suggestion for better afghanistan ...Its upto them to accept it or not....

2ndly India also have history of supporting terrorism... So if India in Afghanistan not good for Pakistan.... And if this is not good for Pakistan it can't be good for Afghanistan....

You really don't know afghanistan do you? Ever met a afghan?? I've lived my life with them.... And i can provide you 3000 right now who dont want India in Afghanistan.... They are so pakistani that they prayed for Pakistan in Pakistan V Afghanistan match.....

The case of afghanistan is different... The opinion vary from area to area......
India did work in Afghanistan and the amount it spent on the work double of it spent on advertising it........And publishing mirch masala news.
While pakistan even in this economic condition did work for Afghans.... and didn't start a media campaign to show the world how angel we are....

Thats the difference of how you work and how we work...

You put up a bunch of empty rhetoric and personal experience to prove your point and expect me to believe it thats it? Next time come up with some hard facts than your rather limited experience which is obvious by what you post.
Regarding India's and Pakistan's works, boy you gotta work much harder to gain their respect than spend some money after what you did to then by supporting your bunnies taliban, and implying that India managed to gain respect by doing nothing more than Pakistan is questioning the intelligence of Afghanis.

 

[mjnaushad]

You put up a bunch of empty rhetoric and personal experience to prove your point and expect me to believe it thats it? Next time come up with some hard facts than your rather limited experience which is obvious by what you post.
Regarding India's and Pakistan's works, boy you gotta work much harder to gain their respect than spend some money after what you did to then by supporting your bunnies taliban, and implying that India managed to gain respect by doing nothing more than Pakistan is questioning the intelligence of Afghanis.

And you put a idiotic survey of the west to prove your point..... Come up with ground realities next time....

Pakistan did spend money and is still spending even in this condition....

 

[SpArK]

I am not for India getting any more involved in Afghanistan than the current scope of efforts. Its cost us way less in manpower and money t o generate much more goodwill than the Americans and that is good enough. However what I was pointing out was if moslem countries like Iran and Pakistan are not favored by Afghanis over a supposed infidel country like India, I doubt they will welcome total strangers from Bangladeh or Malaysia just because they are *******. How similar culture do you think a Malaysian would have with an Afghan? They'll just end up being viewed as another invasion force. Btw i think this proposal is too outlandish, nobody's gonna get into the mess of A'stan just cause of religious brotherhood.

Its not about brotherhood, its about comfort level. And i do believe Pakistan has every right just like us to have an opinion on its immidiete neighbourhood. They have even more stake there, since they have taken millions of refugees to their own land.

Indeed religion plays a major role in Afghan life and afghan politics. All the policies and political parties are based on religion.

We have seen how foreign forces have operated upon and acted against local sentiments..

Our region(example bangladesh, India, Pakistan) is a place which has more troops in peace keeping forces placed in war torn countries like africa and they do basically better than others because of our tolerant nature.

Since India and Pakistan hasnt proposed any intentions to deploy their peace keeping force , any troops from Asia is a better option..

This is not about India and Pakistan, the troops landing there are on UN's control and both India and Pakistan are not gonna exercise influence to them.

 

[Spring Onion]

Its not about brotherhood, its about comfort level. And i do believe Pakistan has every right just like us to have an opinion on its immidiete neighbourhood. They have even more stake there, since they have taken millions of refugees to their own land.

Indeed religion plays a major role in Afghan life and afghan politics. All the policies and political parties are based on religion.

We have seen how foreign forces have operated upon and acted against local sentiments..

Our region(example bangladesh, India, Pakistan) is a place which has more troops in peace keeping forces placed in war torn countries like africa and they do basically better than others because of our tolerant nature.

Since India and Pakistan hasnt proposed any intentions to deploy their peace keeping force , any troops from Asia is a better option..

This is not about India and Pakistan, the troops landing there are on UN's control and both India and Pakistan are not gonna exercise influence to them.

i am afraid the some Indian members here wielding idea of Indian force inclusion is only an attempt to bring the same rival hostility and bringing the idea of neutral force to square one .

I failed to understand why some Indians are opposing neutral Muslim countries

 

[IndianArmy]

Lets wait for all claims of US till they leave and we all will see what is the outcome.

The Outcome is Obvious, Lets wait and See...

I dont know why you stick to an idiotic claim because if you go by speculative claim then how do you claim that any other force specially the bharatiyas will not loot who had even looted BD wealth in 71?

I am Claiming it because we have all seen the involvement With a Selfish Motive Behind Certain faces calling for a Separate Religious force to Act on Afghan Soil...And Its Almost certain what there Motives are...

This is your speculation of looting by a force and that too of something which is not yet been TAPPED in Afghanistan and which will need decades to do . so your stupid claim is the weakest and most embarrassing for Indians here even

Not mere speculation but a Dire need of the day for a nation desperate Enough to show its presence to the World By Calling for a Separate Religious Force which could better the other forces in the name of Completing the Left away 10% task of Theirs.... Some times truth can be embarrassing but Certainly I see it in you for Moment to moment you are getting personal with me...I can Only laugh at your helplessness Jana....

loot is evident of what????

Loot is evident from what You quoted...

secondly what 90% work? if they had 90% they would not have been running from Afghanistan.

They are Not retreating, they are Going back after Doing the Maximum Possible and Handing over the key to ANA.. You cannot call them running....

Pakistan is not suggested for the force neither we are included whereas you are desperately trying to get your bharti army into the force which means the biggest Idiot who could think of looting the resources of Afghanistan can be your bhartis not us

"Neutral Muslim Nations" Who are those??? I am not encouraging any false movement, if You get a sense of feeling that I am Quoting Pakistan then its Your Egos which are getting hurt not my Words Madam...

yes we have seen that right given to Indian Muslims when hindus dont give them houses on rent even to known actors, when they are asked to go back to Pakistan when they raise voice for their rights.

Well, certainly, You can come up with those claims to deviate from the topic But I stand Still... do U have the Answer to what You quoted from me??

when an imaginary hindu god is made contestant and given Babri Mosque land to hindus.

I am Not a Hindu nor a Muslim... I am an Indian and I got nothing to do wit babri, I vote for Education....

as far as ambassadors are concerned its not according to their wish to go to certain country but its about your interests keeping in view the certain cultures and customs and faith of a country where you decided to send certain people from certain faith

Nop Not at all.... Then do You have Hindu as an Ambassador to India?? do you have a Communist as an Ambassador to China??

This will also be part of UNPKF simple as that only if you see it through neutral glasses and not of an Indian Hindu point of view.

Well atleast its from a religious Point of View, and I oppose where religious believes are Butchered for a Cunning cause of a Nation to full fill her wish...

if you want to send your force ask your govt to request for it

We are very Much Happy rebuilding what the Afghans Lost.... And That is what they expect us to do....

What is this everything? name few of it.

by repeating everything everything dont prove anything

Suggest me what they have not been able to do so that I could point it out, You generalized so did I?? You Elaborate on it and I too would try explaining it....

I can only suggest you to read about details rest you can continue your rant i am not stopping you

Thank you for not stopping me..... Most curious how you can reverse your decisions so soon....

Lolzz Neutral is more powerful world than merely Indian

I understand, Neutral is Indeed a More powerful word, Thats why I was Amazed When Your Govt used it....

it doesnt have one




religious team ? their professionalism is not based on religion. The faith factor is more acceptable to the locals in Afghanistan than having Non-Muslim boots which they consider hostile

People Of Afghanistan are Not Sentimental About who stops the Menace, they are more Concerned of how fast they do it,Arent the Taliban religious Extremists too?? How can u deal them with religious Personnels?? Do You think they will give up??

it Utter BS to say that , Things will work out if an Army comprising if religious personnels handpicked from UNPKF would do wonders in Afghanistan....

 

[fallstuff]

UN PKF can only be deployed when all the competing parties agree. Fighting must stop before PKF troops are deployed. This will also include Taliban. A lot depends what those guys think. Taliban wants to go back to power, they may not agree to any PKT in Afghanistan.