Pakistan one of the least racist countries? Tell that to the Pakhtuns

[Samandri]

I know there are clear differences between pahari and hindko. So in murre they speak pahari, make sense.

Hindkowns have told me that Pahari and Hindko have just slight variations. Its basically same language. Muree is extension of Galiyat of Hazara.

 

[Kabira]

Hindkowns have told me that Pahari and Hindko have just slight variations. Its basically same language. Muree is extension of Galiyat of Hazara.

But thats another matter, I can understand and speak with native hinko people but there are still differences.

This map seem to be pretty accurate.

 

[Samandri]

ANP and MQM should just be banned, anybody who have sympathy with them should just be deported from Pakistan.

Renaming nwfp to kpk which is a racist name, is an insult to all the minorities of the frontier province and pashtun establishment I meant the pashtun rulers of an, damn auto correct.

When altar and nawaz speak against army its very different from when haji adeel or or other pashtun nationalists, the farmers only do so for politcal point scoring whereas pashtun nationalists Nate the army and always bring up 71 war to show our failures and mock our history but they don't even realize how bloody their history

The predecessors of ANP , Khudai Khidmatgar , were political opponents of Muslim league, allies of Congress and supporters of united India like Abdul Kalam Azad and Deoband, they were entirely on different tangent and i can understand their lack of "lagao" for pakistani ideology and founders of Pakistan i.e Muslim league.......The MQM on the other hand call themselves founders of Pakistan, yet their activities are anti-state, you call it betrayal.

 

[SherayPunjab]

But thats another matter, I can understand and speak with native hinko people but there are still differences.

This map seem to be pretty accurate.

Jangli or Jhangochi is the true and original dialect of Punjabi, btw.

 

[Kabira]

Jangli or Jhangochi is the true and original dialect of Punjabi, btw.

There most be 1 original dialect. Its certainly not majhi spoken around gujranwala and lahore divisions which sound urdu like to some. Because its more easy to understand if someone knows urdu.

 

[Spring Onion]

Hindkowns have told me that Pahari and Hindko have just slight variations. Its basically same language. Muree is extension of Galiyat of Hazara.

Well NO not slight though language in Hazara has similarities with pothohari but still different while hindko in Peshawar is totally different . The Hindko spoken in hazara has many Sanskrit words which is natural

They are just misguided. Relax and keep an open heart.

l.

they on to their religion I am on to mine. I only respond when they start abusing Muslims.

 

[SherayPunjab]

There most be 1 original dialect. Its certainly not majhi spoken around gujranwala and lahore divisions.

Kaka, heer ranja jangochi boli vich liki gaye. Indians struggle with heer ranjha jangli dialect to this day and had to translate it to doabi to even understand it today. Only some of their elders that migrated could understand it, and even that number was very low, even though they make films on heer ranjha.

 

[Samandri]

Bilour are just puppets of the pashtun establishment of an, regular hindko people don't even support them, it was bilour whom said he would go to war to rename nwfp and haji adeel who insults pak army and said muhajirs should be thrown into the sea, so these pashtnised hindko puppets are fake.

ANP is a anti state party, just go on twitter and watch their real thinking, they oppose anything in favor of Pakistan, whether kalabagh or CPEC or repatriation of afghan immigrants, they now even run a fascist Facebook page called 'justice for pas tuns' that spreads anti Pakistan propaganda

Afrasiab khattak is cooler amongst them, his own daughter is married to Punjabi but overall an and other ethnic parties are bad for pakistan


Not just hazara, even Peshawar is at least a quarter hindkowan and should be part of hindko province, even chitral should get provincial status, they support musharraf party

Haji Adeel is also a Hindkowan.

The Karachiites like @pak-marine would be surprised to find that about half of the Pashto speakers in KPK are not racially Pashtuns but are of Indian extraction. The skilled workers and artisans from Hindustan were allowed to settle as vassals or clients by Pashtun conquerors on their lands (Pakhtun tribes conquered and settled in KPK between times of Ghaznavi and Mughal king Akbar)

 

[pak-marine]

Who is stopping you? come and settle in sandy tracts of my district. Buy land and open business and spend 20 hours without loads shedding with iqa duka customer.

There are even Biharis in town of my district, they arrived in 71 and sell samosa, pakorras etc. The gypsy type Punjabis come from Punjab to our areas , called 'charangian" by us and their women sell women's and kids stuff to houses. No body in my area harm them or do their "target killing". Go to Peshawar, your urdu speakers (settled in Peshawar since 1947) have opened the MQM office on GT road, no Pashtun has ever attacked or bothered them. I come across lot of urdu speakers of indian roots in Peshawar. Peshawar is not a business city of karachi level and is not a port city, it cant even support even the native population.

Those MQM-walas are very shameless and beghairat, what has truck and bus driver or corn-vendor done to them that they kill them and destroy their businesses?. They call themselves founders of Pakistan but founders of Pakistan were not bhata-khors and Muslijm league was not criminal mafia. Pakhtuns like Sardar Abdul Rab Nishtar or Pir of Manki Sharif were also founders of Pakistan and they were not leaders because of badmashi like MQM.

you are comparing apples and oranges here there are over 40 million pukhtoons settled and living in karachi your examples of neigbouring pakoray wala and few merchant gypsies isnt valid at all and holds zero weight.

Numbers tells the truth a very simple way to gauge out the tolerance level of pukhtoons is to look very hard and see if there is a SIGNIFICANT population i.e a large group of people from other pakistani ethnicity's living in KPK - FATA !!!! .. & If you cant find any than that shall be your answer confirming how super friendly environment there is .. lets not go round in circles any more .. open a thread on MQM bashing and you shall be answered .. ANP use to accuse of MQM the same only when they were kicked out of their hoods they realised they have been fckd left right and centre .. so Save it please !


pukhtoon leader ship was off the

 

[syedali73]

I never heard of those disadvantages of KBagg dam before can you provide a source for your claims?

Kis ki baton mein aa rahey ho? Is Afghan ko kya pata? Tons of feasibility reports are prepared and even the NWFP officials accepted them. My father was Chief Geologist in WAPDA and headed one of the department that took part in preparing feasibility reports. Kala Bagh Dam was/is totally feasible but was politicized by ANP on the behest of their Afghan/Indian masters. It will be interesting to note that one of the former Chairmen of WAPDA i.e. Shams ul Mulk hailed from NWFP and one of the most vehement supporter of Kala Bagh Dam.

Please listen to the experts and not racist ignorants, and that too an anti-Pakistan Afghan Ghus Bethya.

Above was the informed discussion by the expert on the issue, and below is the illiterate and falsified rhetoric by Asfand Yar Wali:

Kalabagh dam won’t be allowed whatever the cost: ANP - Kalabagh dam won’t be allowed whatever the cost: ANP - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Pakistan and Kalabagh Dam cannot co-exist: Asfandyar Wali - Pakistan and Kalabagh Dam cannot co-exist: Asfandyar Wali | Pakistan Today

Choose either Pakistan or Kalabagh Dam, says ANP chief - Choose either Pakistan or Kalabagh Dam, says ANP chief - The Express Tribune

 

[Kabira]

Kaka, heer ranja jangochi boli vich liki gaye. Indians struggle with heer ranjha jangli dialect to this day and had to translate it to doabi to even understand it today. Only some of their elders that migrated could understand it, and even that number was very low, even though they make films on heer ranjha.

Heer Ranjha story is based on Jhang but Waris Shah was from Kasur.

 

[SherayPunjab]

Heer Ranjha story is based on Jhang but Waris Shah was from Kasur.

What is that supposed to mean? Bulleh Shah was from Bukhara, but most of his poetry is in Saraeki???

 

[Kabira]

What is that supposed to mean? Bulleh Shah was from Bukhara, but most of his poetry is in Saraeki???

The original Heer was probably written in Jhangvi by Damodar Das who moved to Jhang or was probably from Jhang. Bulleh Shah was born deep in South Punjab, I doubt mythical Bukhara origin claim.

 

[SherayPunjab]

The original Heer was probably written in Jhangvi by Damodar Das who moved to Jhang or was probably from Jhang. Bulleh Shah was born deep in South Punjab, I doubt mythical Bukhara origin claim.

I think his father was from Bukhara or Afghan lands, but regardless in those times Multan was the place to be, not Lahore.

 

[474474]

Definitely racism exists everywhere, but relative to other countries I think Pakistan is ok. Just look at US, over there black-white tensions continue to this day. While we have stereotypes, there is no Punjabi-Pathan tension. In many cities bothe ethnic groups live and interact on a daily basis without problems. I however cannot speak for Karachi as I do not live there, but was told that in the 90s there was tensions between Mohajirs and others. I don't think that it exists today but I could be wrong.

Honestly speaking it's divided between places every one can go and places muhajirs and punjabis can't go, hardly any muhajir only areas.