Pakistan Navy has 2 new Swiftship corvettes on order

[Hassan Guy]

I've spoken out against a lot of these kinds of deals and they always seem to be coming from the Navy.
This one sucks just as much.

The navy just needs 2 types of major surface combatants. Since we don't need destroyers.
Its just a combo of 4-6 frigates with 10-12 corvettes. And they can't get it right.

EDIT: Forgot, they got the frigate part right https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pakistan-navy-to-purchase-frigates-from-china.521954/
but this FAC(M)/Turish corvette/Swift corvette planning makes no sense.

 

[Gryphon]

I've spoken out against a lot of these kinds of deals and they always seem to be coming from the Navy.
This one sucks just as much.

The navy just needs 2 types of major surface combatants. Since we don't need destroyers.
Its just a combo of 4-6 frigates with 10-12 corvettes. And they can't get it right.

EDIT: Forgot, they got the frigate part right https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pakistan-navy-to-purchase-frigates-from-china.521954/
but this FAC(M)/Turish corvette/Swift corvette planning makes no sense.

Fortunately enough, Pakistan Navy isn't run by schoolchildren.

 

[Hassan Guy]

Fortunately enough, Pakistan Navy isn't run by schoolchildren.

sure nothings gone wrong getting stuff from the US,

don't quote my shit again. If you don't like my opinion I couldn't care at all.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Seems reasonable to get few ships increased in corvette / Missile boat category with in limited purchasing budget

The Navy was long over due some improvements in the corvettes class

• Local Efforts with the Azmat Class (really a missile boat x4)
• On order Dutch OPV X2 / Swift Ships x 2 , 2 option
• Milgem x 4

Addition of 14 smaller patrol oriented close shore vessels not a bad move

Dutch opv 90 Meter ship !! ~ almost size of our Sword class frigate
Milgem 90-99 Meter ship !! ~ almost size of our Sword class frigate
Swift Corvette 75 Meters ship!!
Azmat Class 63 meters


Close Shore strategy, mashallah , masallah kiya fantastic purchase

I am fully satisfied and this will thank the almighty finally some movement

Good work Pakistan Navy

 

[Arsalan 345]

no destroyers,no new subs until 2022.pakistan navy is destroying itself.look at india,they either buy or make their own subs and total number of indian subs are already increasing.pakistan don't even have anti submarine aircrafts.those old p3c are too old.this navy is living in the stone age.

 

[CHACHA"G"]

I hate to admit it , but truth is our Navy is in bad shape , Reasons are many , like economy , war planning , defensive or area denial force , corruption etc,,,,,,,,,,
But guys we also have to be thankful that at least some movement in PN , some more ships and subs are coming , which is very good,,,,,,, One more truth here , we can not match Inidan Navy in numbers but surly we can have better ships .........
If we want to have 1/3 of Indian Navy strength we need good 25+ Billion $$$ just to buy....(which we don't have)
I will love to see 8 heavy frigates 7000+T , 6 destroyers again 5000 to 7000+T , 12+ Coverts 2000+T , 15 FAC (7/ 1200T and 8/ 700T ) , 6 more western Subs total 17 SSKs subs, 10 OPV ships ,, 40+ heavy birds for PN only....... dammm man my wish list is to long but ............. we don't have economy for that ..... And in reality we do need the above to counter Very big Indian Navy , if you add all of above the number will still remain less the half actually 1/3 of Indian Navy.......
So be thankful too..... we are moving ahead , OPV is a category on its own and we are filling that.....

 

[Imran Khan]

now its proved our forces want us under USA feet forever

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

People are just being negative for no visible reason

• All Ships have anti Ship Missiles from 2 missiles to 6 missiles each ship
  
• 3 out of 4 Ship designs have Anti Submarine warfare Helicopter on board
• All ships have basic cannon and machine guns and reasonable radars for tracking
• The ships are all operating under the Umbrella of our coastal defense Missile

We really can't expect more provided the budget we typically we have for Navy

The out of box thinking or innovation to do more with less is wonderful from the recent moves

Lot of candy to give out

By the way congrats on Arrival of Himmat FAC

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Look at the 75m 'OPV' Swiftships was offering few years ago. The currently offered 75m corvette appears to be it's development, with some reduced RCS and optionally offered ASW capability in mind.

BTW, Pakistan had 3 ship sets of Harpoon launchers. One went to PNS Alamgir, the two remaining (currently on PNS Tippu Sultan and PNS Shah Jahan) are now very likely to appear on the 75m corvette's. I expected PN to re-use those with Ada, if acquired.

PN must invest into an Atmaca/Exocet like solution, IMO.

Sea-skimming Harpoon/Exocet-class AShM are clearly becoming recurring purchases, so there should be a drive to have a home made solution. Besides joining in the Atmaca or licensing the C-802, they can also work with Denel Dynamics on such an AShM. Basically, have our own where the turbojet (which SA can make), guidance electronics and seeker (incl. source codes) are accessible.

 

[ziaulislam]

Sea-skimming Harpoon/Exocet-class AShM are clearly becoming recurring purchases, so there should be a drive to have a home made solution. Besides joining in the Atmaca or licensing the C-802, they can also work with Denel Dynamics on such an AShM. Basically, have our own where the turbojet (which SA can make), guidance electronics and seeker (incl. source codes) are accessible.

there is little effort to co produce anything thats is available in international market, jf-17 is an exception though when it was started we didnt had anything too
so the very reason why you dont see any JV in choppers, A2A missiles, SAMs, even armoured vechiles even though you have opportunities with turkey/SA and even russia or china

we even dumped Ada for american/chinese/dutch ships

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Turkish Ships will be part of Pakistan Navy to build on closer defence partnership between two nations

Turkish ships will be Priced asset in our Navy looking forward to their arrival

Reference mou signed 2017 news

International Source (Reuters)
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...gn-warship-training-plane-deals-idUSKBN1861YK

Turkish Source
http://aa.com.tr/en/turkey/turkey-signs-deal-to-produce-4-corvettes-with-pakistan/815631

International Source
http://navaltoday.com/2017/05/11/pakistan-signs-loi-to-acquire-four-milgem-corvettes-from-turkey/

• T-129 And Milgem are awaited arrivals

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

The name of the ceo seems pakistani is this swift ships or whatever primarily a pakistani company operating out of Louisiana?

Sea-skimming Harpoon/Exocet-class AShM are clearly becoming recurring purchases, so there should be a drive to have a home made solution. Besides joining in the Atmaca or licensing the C-802, they can also work with Denel Dynamics on such an AShM. Basically, have our own where the turbojet (which SA can make), guidance electronics and seeker (incl. source codes) are accessible.

 

[TOPGUN]

The name of the ceo seems pakistani is this swift ships or whatever primarily a pakistani company operating out of Louisiana?

Perhaps a Pakistani CEO but for-sure a American company.

 

[Thorough Pro]

I have seen this and a few more, but again it's a small river patrol boat with maybe a 100 knot range, it's nothing special (especially in the very limited numbers we'll get it), it's not war fighting machine and doesn't add any offensive/defensive capability to the PN

Sir, Please see this:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/paki...corvettes-on-order.526139/page-4#post-9983770

 

[Gryphon]

Sea-skimming Harpoon/Exocet-class AShM are clearly becoming recurring purchases, so there should be a drive to have a home made solution. Besides joining in the Atmaca or licensing the C-802, they can also work with Denel Dynamics on such an AShM. Basically, have our own where the turbojet (which SA can make), guidance electronics and seeker (incl. source codes) are accessible.

I think it could eventually be Harba (C-802A) and Zarb (C-602). Contrary to earlier speculation that it's Babur anti-ship version.

Both missiles are already in service.