Pakistan Middle Class Bigger & Wealthier Than Indian Middle Class

[Mirza Jatt]

all muslims are converts including arabs.

Sorry but i strongly reject the point that IVC is this subcontinent.IVC only belong to pakistan and those region falling under IVC by default belong to Pakistan(haryana/gujrat)

Let me just reverse your sentence and make it more logical my friend... "Pakistan belongs to IVC"...once you get this line, start reading the history from there after... also read the destruction of IVC and the entire Indian history (you may exclude Gujrat and haryana if you prefer).

BTW some poster claimed that some thousand years ago Indian land was jungle and IVC was civilisation.. you may tell him that IVC was destructed even before Pakistan was created.. .. what existed after that destruction was India (again you may exclude haryana and Gujrat) and there are detailed texts of Indian history for thousands of years. so India has continued to be a civilisation..whereas the IVC was destroyed thousands of year ago.

BTW, it should be kept in mind that the sole reason I am comparing IVC and India sparately is for the sake of countering some absurd claims coming from my Pakistani friends.. otheriwse it is a well known fact that IVC is Purely Indian civilisation and has nothing to do with pakistan other than the fact that the site of IVC (whatever is discovered so far) ies in the current state of pakistan which was a part of India before creation of Pakistan.

 

[deepak.chauhan2312]

Pakistanis are the indigenous people IVC and IVC was considered as the most advance civilization of its era and what was india back than?

We composed rig veda,you followed us,copied our religion and mixed it with many other religion forming hinduism
infact making our sanskrit language as the language of your religion is a sign that you followed us in everything

let me make it staringht You are saying that you are Hindu but then why are you Muslim. If Vedas are your creation then why are you following quran.If Sanskrit is your language then why are you not studying it and proudly speaking Urdu language.If what you stated is true then you are worst people as you are hating your own culture calling Vedas,culture,religion myth and following Arab traditions which are of far away land.May be we adapt the customs with time but the culture is not to be stolen It is what you follow we are still following we are still respecting we are still proud so It is ours you left it so bye bye

 

[waleed3601]

Thanks Musharraf

 

[Neutron]

let me make it staringht You are saying that you are Hindu but then why are you Muslim. If Vedas are your creation then why are you following quran.If Sanskrit is your language then why are you not studying it and proudly speaking Urdu language.If what you stated is true then you are worst people as you are hating your own culture calling Vedas,culture,religion myth and following Arab traditions which are of far away land.May be we adapt the customs with time but the culture is not to be stolen It is what you follow we are still following we are still respecting we are still proud so It is ours you left it so bye bye

Because we converted to more logical and divine religion

 

[Paksanity]

Dear Indian friends,

Please have a good look at this map. These are the world’s first civilizations. As the name suggests, Indus and/or Harrappan civilization is very much in area which is now Pakistan. Only people native to region now called Pakistan can claim Indus civilization as their heritage. Your insistence to include yourselves in that civilization only indicates your lack of confidence and pride in your own civilization heritage which is also a great one. As river Indus is central to birth of Indus valley civilization (hence the name), river Ganges is birthplace of Indian civilization. There is a reason that Ganges is a sacred and revered object in Indian ancient scripts and in its today's society. Please be proud of what you have and don't try to steal our heritage.

P.S. Indus valley civilization is older that Ganges civilization. It is normal that Ganges civilization borrowed a little from an older civilization. This happened all the time in human history and it is not the fault of Indian populace which lives today. They don't have to be ashamed of any thing. They are proud custodian of Ganges River civilization and should be so.

 

[illusion8]

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Dear Indian friends,

Please have a good look at this map. These are the world’s first civilizations. As the name suggests, Indus and/or Harrappan civilization is very much in area which is now Pakistan. Only people native to region now called Pakistan can claim Indus civilization as their heritage. Your insistence to include yourselves in that civilization only indicates your lack of confidence and pride in your own civilization heritage which is also a great one. As river Indus is central to birth of Indus valley civilization (hence the name), river Ganges is birthplace of Indian civilization. There is a reason that Ganges is a sacred and revered object in Indian ancient scripts and in its today's society. Please be proud of what you have and don't try to steal our heritage.

P.S. Indus valley civilization is older that Ganges civilization. It is normal that Ganges civilization borrowed a little from an older civilization. This happened all the time in human history and it is not the fault of Indian populace which lives today. They don't have to be ashamed of any thing. They are proud custodian of Ganges River civilization and should be so.

Someone in UK dreamt up a name called pakistan..jinnah suddenly had a brain stroke to deal with the departing English for a price of land for the musalmaans of the sub continent..hence the existence of pakistan. ..made from borrowed lands, cultures and heritage of its neighbors. Existence of pakistan is a sore point for its neighborhood..A place and people that outsiders use against its neighbors as borrowed mercenaries.
"Pakistan" as such has nothing to do with the harappan or IVC heritage..Other than its geographical location ...thanks to the British.

 

[Jackdaws]

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Dear Indian friends,

Please have a good look at this map. These are the world’s first civilizations. As the name suggests, Indus and/or Harrappan civilization is very much in area which is now Pakistan. Only people native to region now called Pakistan can claim Indus civilization as their heritage. Your insistence to include yourselves in that civilization only indicates your lack of confidence and pride in your own civilization heritage which is also a great one. As river Indus is central to birth of Indus valley civilization (hence the name), river Ganges is birthplace of Indian civilization. There is a reason that Ganges is a sacred and revered object in Indian ancient scripts and in its today's society. Please be proud of what you have and don't try to steal our heritage.

P.S. Indus valley civilization is older that Ganges civilization. It is normal that Ganges civilization borrowed a little from an older civilization. This happened all the time in human history and it is not the fault of Indian populace which lives today. They don't have to be ashamed of any thing. They are proud custodian of Ganges River civilization and should be so.

LOL - It would be good if you did some actual research first. The largest town found so far in what is called the Indus Valley Civilization is the town of Rakhigarhi - in present day Haryana, India. Dholavira, Banavali, Kalibangan and Lothal too are in India. Welcome to the real world, Neo.

 

[deepak.chauhan2312]

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Dear Indian friends,

Please have a good look at this map. These are the world’s first civilizations. As the name suggests, Indus and/or Harrappan civilization is very much in area which is now Pakistan. Only people native to region now called Pakistan can claim Indus civilization as their heritage. Your insistence to include yourselves in that civilization only indicates your lack of confidence and pride in your own civilization heritage which is also a great one. As river Indus is central to birth of Indus valley civilization (hence the name), river Ganges is birthplace of Indian civilization. There is a reason that Ganges is a sacred and revered object in Indian ancient scripts and in its today's society. Please be proud of what you have and don't try to steal our heritage.

P.S. Indus valley civilization is older that Ganges civilization. It is normal that Ganges civilization borrowed a little from an older civilization. This happened all the time in human history and it is not the fault of Indian populace which lives today. They don't have to be ashamed of any thing. They are proud custodian of Ganges River civilization and should be so.

so have decided the region in Pakistan which is Indus valley region as the people who are born there can claim to be a part of ancient civilization.Islamabad?Karachi are they Indus valley part It must be very confusing to identify.

 

[Paksanity]

LOL - It would be good if you did some actual research first. The largest town found so far in what is called the Indus Valley Civilization is the town of Rakhigarhi - in present day Haryana, India. Dholavira, Banavali, Kalibangan and Lothal too are in India. Welcome to the real world, Neo.

Hello??!! River Indus is reference feature of Indus valley civilization (a.k.a Harrappan civilization). Both Indus and Harrappa are in Pakistan. Why can't you be proud of Ganges civilization? I don't get it. Have a look where most of IVC cities were and how region which is mostly called India looked like at that time. (please note farming is step before building civilization and you people were already getting to that stage.)

 

[AyanRay]

Hello??!! River Indus is reference feature of Indus valley civilization (a.k.a Harrappan civilization). Both Indus and Harrappa are in Pakistan. Why can't you be proud of Ganges civilization? I don't get it. Have a look where most of IVC cities were and how region which is mostly called India looked like at that time. (please note farming is step before building civilization and you people were already getting to that stage.)

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Just one question, do you have any idea how the name India came into being and what was considered as India by ancient explorers?


And if you really say IVC was your own, then start worshipping Shiva from now on, because idols of Shiva were found from IVC sites.

Jeez, just imagine Columbus in search of sea route to Pakistan, reaches America and the place is later named as West Pakis

 

[Paksanity]

well then my friend can you tell us why you gave up your original faith and accepted Islam?

Someone in UK dreamt up a name called pakistan..jinnah suddenly had a brain stroke to deal with the departing English for a price of land for the musalmaans of the sub continent..hence the existence of pakistan. ..made from borrowed lands, cultures and heritage of its neighbors. Existence of pakistan is a sore point for its neighborhood..A place and people that outsiders use against its neighbors as borrowed mercenaries.
"Pakistan" as such has nothing to do with the harappan or IVC heritage..Other than its geographical location ...thanks to the British.

LOL - It would be good if you did some actual research first. The largest town found so far in what is called the Indus Valley Civilization is the town of Rakhigarhi - in present day Haryana, India. Dholavira, Banavali, Kalibangan and Lothal too are in India. Welcome to the real world, Neo.

so have decided the region in Pakistan which is Indus valley region as the people who are born there can claim to be a part of ancient civilization.Islamabad?Karachi are they Indus valley part It must be very confusing to identify.

I don't get it. Seriously. Why you guys are so shy of owning your birth civilization which is Ganges River civilization. Ganges River is central to Hindu belief and that is why people take dip and float their Ashes in it. Why try to steal another civilization? Just because it is a bit older?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

The city of Mumbai or delhi individually is more wealthier than pakistan

Rubbish. However if you insist on cherrypicking let me do some of own specials. Karachi, Lahore or Peshawar or Pakistan don't have these though.

 

[Shamain]

@Atanz see indians inferirorty complex ridden posts above. plz wud u share how indus valley is ours or give some past thread link. really need to see them indeez getting slammed here.

 

[Paksanity]

Just one question, do you have any idea how the name India came into being and what was considered as India by ancient explorers?


And if you really say IVC was your own, then start worshipping Shiva from now on, because idols of Shiva were found from IVC sites.

Jeez, just imagine Columbus in search of sea route to Pakistan, reaches America and the place is later named as West Pakis

Whom we worship is our choice and ours only. Please do not teach us that.

And please be proud of what you have. There is a reason Ganges and not Indus is so central to Hindu mythology.

 

[Shamain]

Rubbish. However if you insist on cherrypicking let me do some of own specials. Karachi, Lahore or Peshawar or Pakistan don't have these though.

oh god its pure coincidence i was tagging u and u came here already. isaw ur post after iposted mine.

Whom we worship is our choice and ours only. Please do not teach us that.

And please be proud of what you have. There is a reason Ganges and not Indus is so central to Hindu mythology.

ithink some parts of indian punjab were part of ivc , and thats that. now even dravadians/south indians claim to be scions of indus....