Pakistan Middle Class Bigger & Wealthier Than Indian Middle Class

[Viper 94]

In India their most productive region is the ganges river valley
the bulk of their population lives there
in any place where you have such a high population growth and a very low volume of capital supply
you have all the ingredients for poor infrastructure, low skilled labor and a stagnation in growth of standard of living
the economic growth india is very state specific and the overall population has seen very few benefits of this growth
india and pakistan are both stuck in a low income low growth trap
this is not new the indian subcontinent has been like this for centuries since the times of the hindu kingdoms

 

[Mirza Jatt]

Pakistanis are the indigenous people IVC and IVC was considered as the most advance civilization of its era and what was india back than?

We composed rig veda,you followed us,copied our religion and mixed it with many other religion forming hinduism
infact making our sanskrit language as the language of your religion is a sign that you followed us in everything

(1) can you define the "we: in your post ?? are you saying you composed Rig veda and stopped following it?? Or are you saying that you still follow it since you composed it. Should the world consider you Hindu for composing it since thats what Hindus follow.I say this because I can certainly say that Islam doesnt allow Rig veda infact it would be an alien word for even prophet Muhammad (PBUH).

I would also like to know what do you mean by "our religion" in your post?? are you saying the Hindus copied Islam (assuming you are a muslim) to create their religion ?? or are you sayin that your religin here means some other IVC religion which is your actal religion..which you left for Islam.

I am kind of laughing on myself that I actually read your post and am replying to it..lol.

(2) P.S - I dont expect a logical answer from you considering you actually claimed you composed rig veda and Hindusim copied islam .. still giving it a try.

The people of Pakistan are the history of Pakistan.And the people of IVC are the same people living in Pakistan today

No doubts on your claim that your origin is IVC... which proves our claim that you are converts.

if you claim you are not a convert and may be are some arab and not from the subcontinent then do you agree you are not part of IVC since IVC is in the subcontinent ??

 

[Dragon4]

Pakistanis are the indigenous people IVC and IVC was considered as the most advance civilization of its era and what was india back than?

We composed rig veda,you followed us,copied our religion and mixed it with many other religion forming hinduism
infact making our sanskrit language as the language of your religion is a sign that you followed us in everything

Please can you throw some light on this.

 

[illusion8]

Riaz sahab

I have told you in the past that on one hand Pakistan was always considered as a place of royal people and full of culture even 5000 years back while india only with poverty and backwardness

Sorry but it will take generation and may take 4-5 centuries for indian society to give up the poverty culture.

So Indians might be having the per capita of qatar sometime later in this century but still we will call them poor?why?because poverty has become integrated part of indian society.

Please don't compare Pakistan with india on poverty.thanks

Please name a few musalmaan pakistani royals.

 

[insight-out]

No doubts on your claim that your origin is IVC... which proves our claim that you are converts.

if you claim you are not a convert and may be are some arab and not from the subcontinent then do you agree you are not part of IVC since IVC is in the subcontinent ??

Mirza, Pakistan's population, like India's is diverse. It's sort of a mosaic of many cultures and ethnic groups. No one denies that many Pakistanis trace their ancestry to people who identified themselves as Hindus. In fact we are so nonchalant about it that the fact that our founding father's (Iqbal) grandparents were Hindu Brahmins (who converted to Islam) is a non-issue.

At the same time, many Pakistanis trace their origins to regions outside of the subcontinent, including Arabia, Persia, Turkey, other regions of Central Asia, Africa, and even Europe.

All our ancestors converted to Islam at some point. I see no reason to disagree with you

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Google about Indus valley civilization.thanks

Hammer on head. Find out what they had 5,000 years go in Ganga Basin, Tamil Nadu, Marathrashtra, Kerala, Orrisa, Bengal, Assam, Bihar, Madya Pradesh et all > Jungles.

Then find out what Indus Valley - Punjab, Sindh, Khyber Pakhtun, Balochistan was like 5,000 years ago. > Civilization.

 

[Mirza Jatt]

Mirza, Pakistan's population, like India's is diverse. It's sort of a mosaic of many cultures and ethnic groups. No one denies that many Pakistanis trace their ancestry to people who identified themselves as Hindus. In fact we are so nonchalant about it that the fact that our founding father's grandparents were Hindu Brahmins is a non-issue.

At the same time, many Pakistanis trace their origins to regions outside of the subcontinent, including Arabia, Persia, Turkey, other regions of Central Asia, Africa, and even Europe.

All our ancestors converted to Islam at some point. I see no reason to disagree with you

Thanks for your sensible post. appreciate it. and also just to tell you , my post had no intentions to prove pakistanis' origin to India. All I wanted to convey was that the fellow posters claim that Hindus' copied Islam to create Hinduism was baseless and absurd.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Please name a few musalmaan pakistani royals.

Name me some "Musalman Ancient Eygptians"? Or "Christian Ancient Greeks"? Or "Communist Ancient Chinese"? Or Ancient Muslaman Iranian oh they have had name change "Ancient Persia"?

And question for you? If I was born John, changed my name to Singh in teens, changed to Antonio in late 20s, changed to Mohammed in late 50s. Tell me am I the same person?

According to your logic I never existed before 50s. I never was born, I never was a baby, I never was teenager, I never had my sweet 20s. Instead I just arrived and dropped on earth in my 50s as "Mohammed".

 

[illusion8]

The city of Mumbai or delhi individually is more wealthier than pakistan...let alone states...hyderabad...Chennai and Bangalore are 2/3rd the gdp of pakistan individually and will overtake pakistan in 5 years individually.

A single constituency of Delhi or Mumbai has more billionaires and millionaires than the whole of pakistan.

7 Indian cities including Delhi, Mumbai see growth in number of super-rich: Report | The Financial Express

 

[Super Falcon]

This is said by me in 2000 anyway the probleum with india most money lies in hands of govt and bussiness tycons like tata birla reliance

 

[my2cents]

Pakistanis are the indigenous people IVC and IVC was considered as the most advance civilization of its era and what was india back than?

We composed rig veda,you followed us,copied our religion and mixed it with many other religion forming hinduism
infact making our sanskrit language as the language of your religion is a sign that you followed us in everything

If IVC was not discovered then you would not have any clue. Not much present day evidence for your bragging.

For all you know these IVC inhabitants could be present day Indians.

 

[farhan_9909]

No doubts on your claim that your origin is IVC... which proves our claim that you are converts.

if you claim you are not a convert and may be are some arab and not from the subcontinent then do you agree you are not part of IVC since IVC is in the subcontinent ??

all muslims are converts including arabs.

Sorry but i strongly reject the point that IVC is this subcontinent.IVC only belong to pakistan and those region falling under IVC by default belong to Pakistan(haryana/gujrat)

If IVC was not discovered then you would not have any clue. Not much present day evidence for your bragging.

For all you know these IVC inhabitants could be present day Indians.

although i am working on it yet but still even that would not make indians the direct descendent of the people of IVC like the pakistanis.

my hypothesis is that majority of the indians are the descendent of we pakistanis.

We are the ancestors of majority of the indians.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Frankly this cheap refrain from Indian's had it's time. It won't work anymore. This crap is their standard retort. Oh Pakistan did not exist. Friggin retards. P-A-K-S-T-A-N is just a label for a people.

I can tell you my dad was born before 1947 and his dad was born before that and his dad even before that and so forth. Names don't make history. People do.

If I changed my handle from "Atanz" to "Manz" and came back would I be another entity? No of course not. The name is just a label for something else. In this the people. The people of Indus have been evolving since time began and the sum product of that evolution is what you see today > us.

If my name changed to "Mirza Jatt" I would not become Mirza Jatt or vice versa. And the origins are like all peoples of the world complex and varied. If some of our ancestors were Buddhist or Hindu it make no differance. At some stage we were animists.This is same for everybody.

If IVC was not discovered then you would not have any clue. Not much present day evidence for your bragging.

For all you know these IVC inhabitants could be present day Indians.

Bingo. This is what this is all about. When you have nothing but jungles as history your left to "pinch" other lands as your history. Typical fraud.

 

[illusion8]

Name me some "Musalman Ancient Eygptians"? Or "Christian Ancient Greeks"? Or "Communist Ancient Chinese"? Or Ancient Muslaman Iranian oh they have had name change "Ancient Persia"?

And question for you? If I was born John, changed my name to Singh in teens, changed to Antonio in late 20s, changed to Mohammed in late 50s. Tell me am I the same person?

According to your logic I never existed before 50s. I never was born, I never was a baby, I never was teenager, I never had my sweet 20s. Instead I just arrived and dropped on earth in my 50s as "Mohammed".

There's a difference..Egypt, Greece are ancient civilisations..pakistan is an artificial entity constructed on lands belonging to ancient lands of India, Iran, Balochistan and Afghanistan. .or like a bunch of converts claiming ancient musalmaan conquests of the Arabs as their own..or the new Christian converts claiming glories of the British empire because e of the converted religion.

Again..when the idiot claims 5000 years pakistani history ..He can very well come up with one pakistani royal or a known entity other than jinnah..mullama ..tipu sultan..qasim..abdalli. ..All Indians or Afghans btw.

 

[ramu]

Hammer on head. Find out what they had 5,000 years go in Ganga Basin, Tamil Nadu, Marathrashtra, Kerala, Orrisa, Bengal, Assam, Bihar, Madya Pradesh et all > Jungles.

Then find out what Indus Valley - Punjab, Sindh, Khyber Pakhtun, Balochistan was like 5,000 years ago. > Civilization.

Maurya Empire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you had been to a school that taught real history. Unfortunately your vision is tunneled by the doctored text books.