Pakistan knew bin Laden's whereabouts, claims former defence minister

[ice_man]

You could go on the CNN- IBN site to see it.

Why would India compel a Pak minister to tell the truth ?

denied please check my last post.

no one was compelled. now relax

OR YOU CAN COME UP WITH A FEW CONSPIRACY theories .

 

[Bang Galore]

“The statements have been taken out of context,” he said, .

He must then explain in what context he said what he did.

denied please check my last post..

Not really denied, used an old tactic of saying his statements are taken out of context.

 

[RoadRunner401]

He must then explain in what context he said what he did.

L O L, Indian Media twisting his words to make Pakistan look bad needs explanation really.

 

[ice_man]

He must then explain in what context he said what he did.



Not really denied, used an old tactic of saying his statements are taken out of context.

and the contexts is as follows:

“Had Pakistan knew about Osama residing here, it would have taken action against him,” he added.

but its ok indians can keep spinning this for a while like a diwali pataka until they get bored

 

[Bang Galore]

L O L, Indian Media twisting his words to make Pakistan look bad needs explanation really.

None that you can give. His statement is on record.

 

[ice_man]

None that you can give. His statement is on record.

@third eye can't find the video on cnn IBN either.

it has been taken down.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

He must then explain in what context he said what he did.

Not really denied, used an old tactic of saying his statements are taken out of context.

Example.

"We knew Bin Laden was in Pakistan the day before the attack but it was kept under wraps until US carried out operation"

to "Pakistan knew about whereabouts of Bin Laden".

And all this is cheap attempt at keeping the Bin Laden story alive when it now belongs in history books. This OBL thing can be buried in the same casket as "JFK - Who killed him", "Hitler did not die but retired to Argentina" and "Gandhi was a peadophile" etc

 

[RoadRunner401]

None that you can give. His statement is on record.

You mean the statement, Indians created on his behalf, is on records in India.

 

[utraash]

No surprise....

 

[third eye]

@third eye can't find the video on cnn IBN either.

it has been taken down.

Here is the you tube

I can still see it here in this thread as well. Pak has possibly blocked it .

denied please check my last post.

no one was compelled. now relax

OR YOU CAN COME UP WITH A FEW CONSPIRACY theories .

Denial ... again ?

 

[ice_man]

Example.

"We knew Bin Laden was in Pakistan the day before the attack but it was kept under wraps until US carried out operation"

to "Pakistan knew about whereabouts of Bin Laden".

And all this is cheap attempt at keeping the Bin Laden story alive when it now belongs in history books. This OBL thing can be buried in the same casket as "JFK - Who killed him", "Hitler did not die but retired to Argentina" and "Gandhi was a peadophile" etc

no need to give examples when he clearly said himself:

“Had Pakistan knew about Osama residing here, it would have taken action against him,” he added.

Mukhtar denies saying Pakistani leadership knew about Osama's presence - The Express Tribune

his own words

Here is the you tube

I can still see it here in this thread as well. Pak has possibly blocked it .

Denial ... again ?

not working i am sure IBN should have it on their website right? please provide a link from their own website.

secondly meanwhile have a read:

Mukhtar denies saying Pakistani leadership knew about Osama's presence - The Express Tribune

http://www.newsone.tv/rehman-malik-denies-claiming-pakistani-leadership-knew-about-osamas-presence/


and this

http://www.newsone.tv/rehman-malik-denies-claiming-pakistani-leadership-knew-about-osamas-presence/

 

[third eye]

@ice_man man

Pakistan ex-defence minister Ahmed Mukhtar drops political nuke bomb, says Osama bin Laden was their 'guest' - IBNLive


Pakistan Osama's benefactor

Chaudhary Ahmed Mukthar was the defence minister of Pakistan between 2008 and 2012. He was part of the top five ministers in the cabinet of the then prime minister Yousaf Raza Gilani.

A long time member of the Pakistan People's Party, Chaudhary Ahmed Mukhtar had the ear of his boss, President Asif Ali Zardari. And now for the first time, four and a half years after the killing of Osama Bin Laden, an insider reveals the truth. The truth that Pakistan has deliberately and carefully hid from the rest of the world.

Question: Did this word spread above in the chain of command, did the President know about it, did the Prime Minister know about it? At what level was this information shared?

Answer: The people who were part and parcel of the whole action like the President of Pakistan, the Armed Forces Chief, the Joint Chief of Staff and the agency people, they were all activated and they were all waiting for orders for them to come out with their teams and provide all the information which they should have done earlier.

Question: So President Zardari, you are saying knew about it, General Kayani, the then Army Chief had information about it and there were people both in the civilian and military chain of command who had prior information about Osama?

Answer: Yeah

Hear and read it again ladies and gentlemen. For the first time, a sitting Pakistani minister of that time, had admitted on camera that his government knew of the presence of Osama Bin Laden on Pakistani soil.

Question: So President Zardari you are saying knew about it, General Kayani, the then Army Chief had information about it and there were people both in the civilian and military chain of command who had prior information about Osama?

Answer: Yeah

That's not all. Chaudhary Mukthar continues to reveal more about how the Pakistani Army and the ISI had prior knowledge of the world's most wanted man living on their soil.

Question: In terms of your suspicion of the location of the world's most wanted man, you did have prior information and that information was shared with both the civilian and military chain of command?

Answer: Some people knew, people in the Pakistan Army as well as people in the other forces they also knew it and they were on the lookout for somebody of the stature of Osama Bin Laden.

Pakistan defence falls flat

Here's why this is important. Contrast the admission by the then Pakistan defence minister to all the official reactions of Pakistani authorities in the immediate aftermath of Osama's killing.

"I categorically deny any role, any assistance from any Pak official or establishment. The way he hid himself, we could not identify him," Rehman Malik, the then interior minister, had said on May 10, 2011.

Former Pakistani Army chief and dictator General Pervez Musharraf had maintained a similar stand. "As far as I am concerned, I am 500% sure that I did not know, whether anyone believes it or not. So I am clear there is no complicity. And I am also clear that army and ISI could not have hidden it from me. Because I am from them and they are from me," he had said on October 27, 2011.

Also Read: How CNN-IBN’s Investigative Journalist Manoj Gupta got the biggest scoop on Osama bin Laden

Pakistan continues to hold the same position to this day, a denial, the art of which has been perfected by Pakistan's state institutions. Now the then Pakistan Defence Minister has blown the lid out of this denial as to why this narrative was not countered.

Question: So when this story happened and it's been a little over four years since that earth shattering event happened, why is it that this impression has gone to the rest of the world that it's only the Americans who knew about it, this operation was in complete stealth and the Pakistani authorities were completely in the dark?

Answer: If you are trying to get hold of a gentleman who has been hiding away in the mountains for more than 15-18 years, then these kind of people are difficult to be found and once you find them they normally don't live after that. They attempt committing suicide. They would attempt to finish off their bodies by just killing themselves. I don't know why he didn't run away himself?

So the Pakistanis were all along simply hoping that Osama, if found, would just kill himself, like most terrorists do.

Listen to it once again. On the record. The then Defence Minister of Pakistan saying they knew about the presence of the world's most wanted man, less than a 100 kilometres from Pakistan's capital Islamabad.

Question: Did this word spread above in the chain of command, did the President know about it, did the Prime Minister know about it? At what level was this information shared?

Answer: The people who were part and parcel of the whole action like the President of Pakistan, the Armed Forces Chief, the joint chief of Staff and the agency people they were all activated and they were all waiting for orders for them to come out with their teams and provide all the information which they should have done earlier.

Question: So President Zardari you are saying knew about it, General Kayani, the then Army Chief had information about it and there were people both in the civilian and military chain of command who had prior information about Osama?

Answer: Yeah

 

[ice_man]

@ice_man man

Pakistan ex-defence minister Ahmed Mukhtar drops political nuke bomb, says Osama bin Laden was their 'guest' - IBNLive


Pakistan Osama's benefactor

Chaudhary Ahmed Mukthar was the defence minister of Pakistan between 2008 and 2012. He was part of the top five ministers in the cabinet of the then prime minister Yousaf Raza Gilani.

A long time member of the Pakistan People's Party, Chaudhary Ahmed Mukhtar had the ear of his boss, President Asif Ali Zardari. And now for the first time, four and a half years after the killing of Osama Bin Laden, an insider reveals the truth. The truth that Pakistan has deliberately and carefully hid from the rest of the world.

Question: Did this word spread above in the chain of command, did the President know about it, did the Prime Minister know about it? At what level was this information shared?

Answer: The people who were part and parcel of the whole action like the President of Pakistan, the Armed Forces Chief, the Joint Chief of Staff and the agency people, they were all activated and they were all waiting for orders for them to come out with their teams and provide all the information which they should have done earlier.

Question: So President Zardari, you are saying knew about it, General Kayani, the then Army Chief had information about it and there were people both in the civilian and military chain of command who had prior information about Osama?

Answer: Yeah

Hear and read it again ladies and gentlemen. For the first time, a sitting Pakistani minister of that time, had admitted on camera that his government knew of the presence of Osama Bin Laden on Pakistani soil.

Question: So President Zardari you are saying knew about it, General Kayani, the then Army Chief had information about it and there were people both in the civilian and military chain of command who had prior information about Osama?

Answer: Yeah

That's not all. Chaudhary Mukthar continues to reveal more about how the Pakistani Army and the ISI had prior knowledge of the world's most wanted man living on their soil.

Question: In terms of your suspicion of the location of the world's most wanted man, you did have prior information and that information was shared with both the civilian and military chain of command?

Answer: Some people knew, people in the Pakistan Army as well as people in the other forces they also knew it and they were on the lookout for somebody of the stature of Osama Bin Laden.

Pakistan defence falls flat

Here's why this is important. Contrast the admission by the then Pakistan defence minister to all the official reactions of Pakistani authorities in the immediate aftermath of Osama's killing.

"I categorically deny any role, any assistance from any Pak official or establishment. The way he hid himself, we could not identify him," Rehman Malik, the then interior minister, had said on May 10, 2011.

Former Pakistani Army chief and dictator General Pervez Musharraf had maintained a similar stand. "As far as I am concerned, I am 500% sure that I did not know, whether anyone believes it or not. So I am clear there is no complicity. And I am also clear that army and ISI could not have hidden it from me. Because I am from them and they are from me," he had said on October 27, 2011.

Also Read: How CNN-IBN’s Investigative Journalist Manoj Gupta got the biggest scoop on Osama bin Laden

Pakistan continues to hold the same position to this day, a denial, the art of which has been perfected by Pakistan's state institutions. Now the then Pakistan Defence Minister has blown the lid out of this denial as to why this narrative was not countered.

Question: So when this story happened and it's been a little over four years since that earth shattering event happened, why is it that this impression has gone to the rest of the world that it's only the Americans who knew about it, this operation was in complete stealth and the Pakistani authorities were completely in the dark?

Answer: If you are trying to get hold of a gentleman who has been hiding away in the mountains for more than 15-18 years, then these kind of people are difficult to be found and once you find them they normally don't live after that. They attempt committing suicide. They would attempt to finish off their bodies by just killing themselves. I don't know why he didn't run away himself?

So the Pakistanis were all along simply hoping that Osama, if found, would just kill himself, like most terrorists do.

Listen to it once again. On the record. The then Defence Minister of Pakistan saying they knew about the presence of the world's most wanted man, less than a 100 kilometres from Pakistan's capital Islamabad.

Question: Did this word spread above in the chain of command, did the President know about it, did the Prime Minister know about it? At what level was this information shared?

Answer: The people who were part and parcel of the whole action like the President of Pakistan, the Armed Forces Chief, the joint chief of Staff and the agency people they were all activated and they were all waiting for orders for them to come out with their teams and provide all the information which they should have done earlier.

Question: So President Zardari you are saying knew about it, General Kayani, the then Army Chief had information about it and there were people both in the civilian and military chain of command who had prior information about Osama?

Answer: Yeah

where is the video? IBN surely should have the video on the website

secondly from your post:

Answer: Some people knew, people in the Pakistan Army as well as people in the other forces they also knew it and they were on the lookout for somebody of the stature of Osama Bin Laden.




so how can we know and be looking out to find him?


LASTLY get my IP verified i am currently in the middle east on a business trip. hence please don't tell me Pakistan has blocked youtube and CNN IBN video

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Here is the you tube

I can still see it here in this thread as well. Pak has possibly blocked it .

Denial ... again ?

The link is blocked and I am in UK. Did Pakistan manage to block it here as well?

 

[third eye]

LASTLY get my IP verified i am currently in the middle east on a business trip. hence please don't tell me Pakistan has blocked youtube and CNN IBN vide

The link is blocked and I am in UK. Did Pakistan manage to block it here as well?

Cant you guys see it on you tube ?

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