Pakistan hopes MBS will make brief stopover

[migflug]

The comments under the post spell it out. These western initiatives tend to fizzle out, remember “build back better world”.

If it’s investments, it’s national investments by countries, and that infrastructure will be useable by any partner they want to do business with. When Western backed infrastructure will be place, China will come and move their goods on it.

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The Arab railways are in building for many years. But the biggest beneficiary of this project apart from Arabs could be India as we are direct naval neighbor. They can fulfill our huge energy demand, while we can take a more economic route to Europe which will save us some forex.

 

[Puffin]

It will be greatest boost that Indian railway companies will receive. Indian companies building rail line through Saudi Arabia and into Europe will earn them billions.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

It will be greatest boost that Indian railway companies will receive. Indian companies building rail line through Saudi Arabia and into Europe will earn them billions.

Through undersea tunnels???

 

[migflug]

What’s the benefit of an Indian ship stopping in the Middle East to only get back on a ship in Haifa to go to Europe?

Diplomatic win the sense that China was a mediator between SA and Iran and was gaining a major position in the ME while displacing USA. Saudi and USA relationship had soured for last couple of quarters, but it seems that India had helped part those rift between the two nations. In that sense its a diplomatic win!!

 

[Olympus81]

Contrary to what the Indians believe, on a strategic level CPEC is doing just fine.

The Chinese have built a road network from Eastern China down to Gwadar / Karachi and this will connect to BRI. Eventually that will connect Iran as well. One would be naive to think this corridor can be eclipsed.

Coming back to the topic, I really hope MBS doesn’t stop over in Pakistan. Apart from sweet talks from Asim, Pakistan has no utility to Saudi Arabia. The Saudis are better off funneling their funds to better ventures.

 

[Puffin]

Through undersea tunnels???

These contracts to build rail lines in SA UAE Iraq Israel will be out for tender to NON_CHINESE companies. Indian Railways HAS PROVED it is the worlds most efficient for laying rail lines. It has laid worlds largest miles of tracks

 

[indushek]

Saudis have the money and want the influence, especially away from Iran. A rail line through Iraq and then Syria to Turkey and then Europe is the best way to make doing industrial work in the GCC, and making GCC ports viable.

They need a way that GCC ports have to be used.

India already skips Pakistan. Even if it didn’t, india would want to use its own ports. Give business to modi’s pal adani if I’m not mistaken.

True but for us to get more benefits, there has to be a rail line more than shipping route. I wonder a underwater shipping line is possible and economically viable, which only time will tell.

What you say is true though, Saudis will like the ports in their region to be used rather than Chahbahar.

Through undersea tunnels???

Am wondering about that as well, I think its Oman who is the nearest, if we go in a straight line to build one. If economically and technically feasible, that would be such a amazing thing but for now in the air. Let's see

 

[Dalit]

India is against the Indo-Pak hyphenation by US and west, putting both in the same category, by some Arab countries too, just as Pakistan was against the Af-Pak hyphenation.

And this must have been told to all the foreign dignatories years before.

And India would not like a Pak visit by MBS in some kind of a package tour, India now aspires big, a country of 1.44 billion souls.

So most likely MBS will skip Pak now and might do a visit later doling out some throw-aways/freebies for the neutrals to scavenge and lick, a dry bone to the lapdogs, and they'll make hay and become more subservient slaves.

Agreed. One way or another, MBS will make up by doling out a billion dollars to beggars.

 

[Azadkashmir]

mbs spends more on his toys then on cheap pak jernals atleast ik was flipping fingers at them.

 

[Dalit]

mbs spends more on his toys then on cheap pak jernals atleast ik was flipping fingers at them.

Damn. It is brutal. A nation of 200+ million at the mercy of boomer generals. A bunch of uncle generals destroying the future of so many youngsters. Not a single country in the world is willing to take Pakistan seriously. Not one. The state and the military is constantly begging for a few dollars here and there. Let that sink in folks. A nation of close to 300 million people with nuclear weapons is pleading on its knees. Pakistanis are extremely desperate to leave boomerland.

 

[Azadkashmir]

Damn. It is brutal. A nation of 200+ million at the mercy of boomer generals. A bunch of uncle generals destroying the future of so many youngsters. Not a single country in the world is willing to take Pakistan seriously. Not one. The state and the military is constantly begging for a few dollars here and there. Let that sink in folks. A nation of close to 300 million people with nuclear weapons.

with ik pakistan was getting respect and ik couldnt care less about gulfy and saudis, so they all made their move along with usa and traitor generals to remove him. They know pakistan if given honest righteous leadership will be heavy weight. i wish those houthis burn down those oil fields. pak generals can enjoy their power but they gotta move abroad one day thats the day overseas paks should do a hit on them. i mean come on ppl kill each other everyday over small things so taking out these lot should be priority.

 

[Dalit]

with ik pakistan was getting respect and ik couldnt care less about gulfy and saudis, so they all made their move along with usa and traitor generals to remove him. They know pakistan if given honest righteous leadership will be heavy weight. i wish those houthis burn down those oil fields. pak generals can enjoy their power but they gotta move abroad one day thats the day overseas paks should do a hit on them. i mean come on ppl kill each other everyday over small things so taking out these lot should be priority.

These generals will forever be remembered as American prostitutes.

 

[Clutch]

The elite of the country are actually doing it to themselves. They have a large population, in Pakistan, of basically serfs, and haven’t figure out a way to earn foreign capital from them (by employing them in export earning industries) in a sustainable and growing manner.

South Korea copied some of pakistan’s plans from the 60s, but between then and the rise of Zia, it was basically a shortcut mindset to eat the seeds you have in hand then to plant them and grow an ever expanding garden.

When Deng came into power in China, he visited the East Asian tiger economies and realizes he had economies of scale, and used it to mend ties with the world only 20 years after the Korean War and just after the Vietnam war.

Part of what must be to blame is the game of musical chairs, different factions of the elite are competing with each other for “their share” of an ever shrinking pie.

Well written. No argument. The issue at hand now is that the incompetence and corruption you highlight has now reached a climax. Pakistan is now at the stage of total failure.

 

[Puffin]

 

[Mav3rick]

I would say that India has always been very lucky with leaders and their decisions. The land reforms at the birth were instrumental in forging the economic powerhouse that India is today. Although the travel got wayward with India choosing sides (USSR against the US) quite early on, she learnt her lesson and moved everything around very very quickly when her situation was dire (in the early 90's) than the situation in which Pakistan finds itself today.

I pray and I hope that we too get leadership which is able to turn things around for us too; it only takes 10-15 years. And the optimist in me says that a turnaround of our fortune is inevitable, we have reached the lows and now we can only start going up, Inshallah.