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Pakistan finally becoming a nation state?

In a Pakistan where we put Islam first, we will always have the accursed Islamic divide. The divide which the Prophet of Islam (pbuh) himself prophesied. The very prophecy that says that Islam would be torn into 72 sects with each sect having its own beliefs and practices.

In a Pakistan where we put Pakistan first we will always have an ethnic and cultural divide. A divide which we inherited by virtue of the partition. The divide between different languages and traditions in the north, the south, the east and the west.

Unlike the Islamic divide, however, the ethnic divide is bridgeable. How? By nationalism - The identity of a nation state. Many nations under one flag. And unlike the Islamic divide, where one sect tells the other sect that they are wrong, in a cultural divide this problem is non-existent, because cultures can not be wrong.

I am eagerly anticipating the day when Islam is not the only thing we identify ourselves with, so that we can remove it from the constitution once and for all - just as Egypt's SCC did last week. Practice and preach what you must, but to each his own, and under the green flag, you are a Pakistani before you are a Muslim, or Christian, or Hindu...

Have Pakistanis really learned the lesson? Really?

Are we ready to put Pakistan above the notion of "ummah" and solve its problems first before trying to go all jihadi on others?

Whether or not we are ready, we are financially, economically and militarily constrained to fix Pakistan first before we proceed to fix the "Ummah".
 
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I don't know - what i do know is that i will keep trying.

Good, but what exactly is it that you will be trying for here?

Whether or not we are ready, we are financially, economically and militarily constrained to fix Pakistan first before we proceed to fix the "Ummah".

Very right! We need to fix our own issues first, and foremost, to the exclusion of ALL else. What could possibly be more important than that?
 
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Pakistan’s zombie-like response to the Gaza killings

Tuesday, 15 July 2014

While Israeli jets pounded Gaza with sophisticated bombs over the last two weeks, indiscriminately killing unarmed men, women and children before an unresponsive world conscience, the lukewarm reaction to this bloodshed from the Pakistanis seems out of place.


Although Pakistani people, particularly women and children, watch in horror the pictures of mutilated, blood soaked bodies of Palestinian children, women and men, the trauma and anger is not translating into any worthwhile protests which has been the hallmark of the country in such cases in the past.

The Pakistani “silence” is all the more disturbing for Pakistani people, especially after they have been watching video clips on social media over the last couple of months showing the besieged people of Gaza calling the Pakistan army to come for their rescue against the Israeli aggression.

Pakistan’s reluctant and slow response to the latest Palestinian crisis is perhaps because Islamabad has been deeply engaged in its own web of crises; including escalating terrorism emanating from country’s unwise jumping on the bandwagon of the U.S.-led war on terror.

Too inward looking

At present Pakistan is too inward looking to attend to any foreign crisis. Its army is engaged in a fierce final phase of a decade long war against the Taliban militants in the tribal region bordering Afghanistan. The operation is aimed at flushing out the militants from the final stronghold of the Taliban and resulted in displacing about a million civilians from the region requiring huge resources to provide them shelter, food and medicines during the holy month of Ramadan.

The Pakistani foreign office issued a belated customary statement condemning Tel Aviv for the bloodletting of unarmed civilians and calling upon the world to take concrete measures to resolve the Palestinian issue to bring the crisis to an end. The media followed it by taking up the issue but not giving it the kind of priority the Palestine issue used to take 10 to 15 years ago.

Islamist leaders like Jamaat-ud-Dawah’s Hafiz Muhammad Saeed and pro-Ikhwan party Jamaat-e-Islami’s Sirajul Haq have begun bringing their workers out on the streets for protests. But the political scene was being confused by some strange political characters like Dr. Tahirul Qadri who is running an anti-government campaign funded by donations collected from Western countries.

Unusual enthusiasm

Pakistan, in the past, has shown unusual enthusiasm in displaying sympathy and support to different causes of brother Muslim people elsewhere in the world.

Though the majority of Pakistanis suffer from illiteracy, their love for Islam and fellow Muslims is overwhelming. This love knows no bounds when it comes to expressing support on the streets and through giving generous donations.

On a number of occasions in the past, Pakistani Muslims have responded to international acts. Whether it was the issue of the blasphemous caricature in the European press, or the setting ablaze of the Holy Quran by U.S. Pastor Terry Jones, or the murder of Muslim women in European countries for wearing hijab by Islam haters, Pakistanis had always responded to such gruesome acts by registering strong protests on the streets which often turned out to be violent.

Similarly, in cases of Muslim genocide in Palestine, Indian-held Kashmir, Bosnia, Chechnya and Myanmar, Pakistanis went further than raising their voices for these causes but also helped out by generously donating for their oppressed brethren engaged in a struggle for freedom against the occupant armies.

The kind of spark in their resilience shown by Pakistani Muslims in the past, even by sudden and spontaneous responses to the causes of Muslim world, can be judged by the widespread violent protests against the blasphemous caricatures in the European press in early 2006.

The old Pakistan

I can vividly recall that during the early 1990s when the U.S. launched its first gulf war on Iraq, Pakistan did not have many supporters of Saddam Hussain and common people hardly knew him in Pakistan. Yet a religious leader, Shah Ahmad Noorani (late), gave a call to the masses to hold demonstrations against the U.S. and in support of Saddam. It was amazing that tens of thousands of people emerged out of nowhere and gathered on the major streets. They blocked the major parts of Karachi within a few hours.

That was the story of a past Pakistan. The present day Pakistan has become a tough place to live for the common man because of spiraling price-hikes, unemployment, street crimes and power cuts that leave most parts of the day without electricity, forcing the industries to shut down and businessmen to shift their businesses and industries to other countries.

Alas, the unwise and power hungry rulers have badly spoiled the resilient Islamic character of a nuclear Pakistan to the extent of leading the courageous and loving people of the country into ideological trauma where they are silently watching the helpless Palestinian women and children being killed.

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Mansoor Jafar is Editor of Al Arabiya Urdu based in Islamabad. He can be reached via Twitter: @mansoorjafar

Last Update: Tuesday, 15 July 2014 KSA 18:05 - GMT 15:05

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/vie...ombie-like-response-to-the-Gaza-killings.html


I think the author is right. I also think that this is EXACTLY what Pakistan needs right now. Fix home before going crazy for others. E.Pakistan, Afghanistan, Kashmir, Bosnia, Somalia....we have learned our lesson!

hey isn't changing the title against the forum rules

Not just for us, for Jews and Christians as well so it has to be shared. Geographically its first an Arab responsibility, then Turkish, then perhaps ours. We cannot afford the Islam ki thekedari anymore.

What about the Iranians they come before you & i really felt very good that Pakistan wasn't trying to be Islam ka Thekedar anymore & was fighting on the home front first[your operation in the NW]
 
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Saudi Arabia spend more than us on military. Let them deal with it.
 
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It is laughable, unfortunate and frustrating to see that how some Pakistani members are "shah sey ziyada...shah key vafadar".

It's an Arab Political Issue......plain and simple. Doesn't mean Pakistan is supporting the massacre..on the contrary Pakistan and Pakistani people support the right of Palestinian people.

To the overly religious Bakistani zealots....get the hell out of Pakistan if you can not put Pakistan first and Pakistanis first.....there is a caliphate now so please go live there instead of spreading your nonsense.
 
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With ease you disassociate yourself from Pakistan gets me worried about your mental state. Go and join Hammas. Keep Pakistan out of it. Palestine is not our business!!
Issue off Palestine was always our issue every second Jihadi Organisation is born because off this issue and this issue will keep making sure that whole world keeps burning this issue until solved will make war reaches whole world
 
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It is laughable, unfortunate and frustrating to see that how some Pakistani members are "shah sey ziyada...shah key vafadar".

It's an Arab Political Issue......plain and simple. Doesn't mean Pakistan is supporting the massacre..on the contrary Pakistan and Pakistani people support the right of Palestinian people.

To the overly religious Bakistani zealots....get the hell out of Pakistan if you can not put Pakistan first and Pakistanis first.....there is a caliphate now so please go live there instead of spreading your nonsense.
It is never Arab issue the liberal traitors and enemies off Islam and Muslims like to portray in that way because they are nothing but paid .... off west this issue is off Muslims and either our goverments will soon take action to solve it or face extreme public anger
 
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Issue off Palestine was always our issue every second Jihadi Organisation is born because off this issue and this issue will keep making sure that whole world keeps burning this issue until solved will make war reaches whole world

Right now Jehadis are busy beheading Muslims in Iraq and Syria and world is doing just fine.
 
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Right now Jehadis are busy beheading Muslims in Iraq and Syria and world is doing just fine.
Yes yes and soon this phenomena will enter whole world and current cowardness off our leaders on issue off palestine is going to produce lot more angry youth who will be not in mood to show any mercy
 
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Hamas always reminds me of Hummus

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Which reminds me of Mutabbal / Baba Ganooush

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Which reminds me of Araees

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Which makes me miss Lamb Kebabs

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And now im hungry.
 
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Yes yes and soon this phenomena will enter whole world and current cowardness off our leaders on issue off palestine is going to produce lot more angry youth who will be not in mood to show any mercy
Are you implying that the issue of ISIS and Palestine are connected? That's funny because ISIS is marching east when they should be marching west.
 
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Issue off Palestine was always our issue every second Jihadi Organisation is born because off this issue and this issue will keep making sure that whole world keeps burning this issue until solved will make war reaches whole world

Dude..you are one of the exception among sane Pakistan posters....Did you ever ask your so called brothers Mullah and Jihadist about what will be there thought about thousand of people killed and displaced in the western part of Pakistan? Of course, Pak Army is fighting with Muslim militant only....

Beleive in your religion, it is good, but when religion takes more precedence than your nation state, it does not do any good to you. You can learn this example from so many modern Muslim states like Indonesia and Turkey....Even Pakistan is slowly realising this thing and i feel that it is trying to reassert itself as a nation state...So be a part of the process of your nation...Religion come and go and but your nation does not....
 
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Dude..you are one of the exception among sane Pakistan posters....Did you ever ask your so called brothers Mullah and Jihadist about what will be there thought about thousand of people killed and displaced in the western part of Pakistan? Of course, Pak Army is fighting with Muslim militant only....

Beleive in your religion, it is good, but when religion takes more precedence than your nation state, it does not do any good to you. You can learn this example from so many modern Muslim states like Indonesia and Turkey....Even Pakistan is slowly realising this thing and i feel that it is trying to reassert itself as a nation state...So be a part of the process of your nation...Religion come and go and but your nation does not....
Religion stays and Islam has stayed and will stay and this nation survival is on religion otherwise .....
 
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