Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[The Accountant]

That is our failure as a people and no conspiracy.

Thats why we need to establish strong systems and not to rely on individuals including IK ...

 

[Raider 21]

@CriticalThought @HRK @MastanKhan @Bilal Khan (Quwa)

In 2008 ; Pakistan had entered an IMF program which
put a brake on all acquisitons programmes
South Asia

• IMF COUNTRY FOCUS

IMF Survey: Pakistan Gets $7.6 Billion Loan from IMF
IMF Survey online

November 24, 2008

• Measures to stabilize economy while protecting the poor
• Pakistan seeking additional donor support to improve safety net
• Tightening of monetary conditions will help combat inflation

The IMF's Executive Board has approved a $7.6 billion loan for Pakistan to support its program to stabilize and rebuild the economy while expanding its social safety net to protect the poor.

A worker in an iron foundry in Karachi. Pakistan will seek additional support to improve social safety nets (photo: Mohammad Zargham/PPI)

Related Links

• Pakistan and the IMF
• Outlook for region
• Asian growth to slow sharply
• IMF Pakistan website
• World leaders combat crisis

The 23-month Stand-By loan will enable the government to implement a stabilization program that envisages a significant tightening of fiscal and monetary policies to bring down inflation and reduce the external current account deficit to more sustainable levels. The program seeks to address current macroeconomic imbalances while protecting the poor and preserving social stability in the South Asian country of 170 million people.

"By providing large financial support to Pakistan, the IMF is sending a strong signal to the donor community about the country's improved macroeconomic prospects," said IMF Deputy Managing Director Takatoshi Kato.

Pakistan's economic program

"The Government's program has two objectives: first, to restore overall economic stability and confidence through a tightening of macroeconomic policies, and second, to do so in a manner that ensures social stability and adequate support for the poor during the adjustment process," said Juan Carlos Di Tata, the IMF mission chief to Pakistan.

The Pakistan authorities have already taken some difficult steps to achieve these objectives: energy subsidies have been cut and the interest rate has been increased to tighten monetary policy. The authorities' program for the coming 24 months envisages a number of additional steps:

• 
  • The fiscal deficit, excluding grants, will be brought to down from 7.4 percent of GDP in 2007/08 (starting July 1) to a more manageable 4.2 percent in 2008/09 and 3.3 percent in 2009/10—in line with what it was three years ago. This fiscal adjustment will be primarily achieved by phasing out energy subsidies and strengthening revenue mobilization through tax policy and administration measures. The reduction in expenditures will create room to increase spending on the social safety net.
  
  • The State Bank Of Pakistan (SBP) will act on monetary policy to build its international reserves, bring down inflation to 6 percent in 2010, and eliminate central bank financing of the government. The program includes measures to improve monetary management and enhance the SBP's bank resolution capacity, and avoid the use of public resources to support the stock market.
  
  • Expenditure on the social safety net will be increased to protect the poorthrough both cash transfers and targeted electricity subsidies. The fiscal program for 2008/09 envisages an increase in spending on the social safety net of 0.6 percentage points of GDP to 0.9 percent of GDP. Pakistan will also work with the World Bank to prepare a more comprehensive and better targeted social safety net program.

Contribution of the IMF

The financing from the IMF will help to ease the path of adjustment and will provide a strong signal of support to the international community. Of the $7.6 billion loan, $3.1 billion will be made available by the IMF immediately to strengthen the reserve position. And the regular monitoring of the economy by the IMF will show how the macroeconomic objectives set by the Government are being met and whether they need to be adjusted in the light of changing circumstances.

"It is important to point out that the program—and its conditionality—is based on the targets and measures that the authorities have themselves set for the next two years. The IMF is convinced that the best implemented programs are the ones that are home grown and fully owned by the country," Di Tata said.

Alongside the IMF's financial support, there is an urgent need to mobilize additional donor support to strengthen Pakistan's resilience to potential shocks, help finance the expanded social safety net, and allow for higher spending on development programs. "The Fund stands ready to participate in any donor meeting to provide the economic and financial analysis that could underpin expanded support."

Implementation key to success

Success of the program could be affected by a number of risks. They arise from security and implementation uncertainties, a more severe-than-anticipated slowdown in economic activity in trading partners, and lower-than-expected private capital inflows.

"Sustained and forceful implementation will be key to the success of the program," Di Tata stated.

Previous gains

From the early 2000s to mid-2007, Pakistan's macroeconomic performance was robust. During the period 2000/01-2004/05, when Pakistan successfully implemented two IMF-supported programs, real GDP growth averaged 5 percent a year with relative price stability. The improved macroeconomic performance enabled the country to reenter international capital markets in the mid-2000s.

The macroeconomic situation, however, deteriorated significantly in 2007/08 and the first four months of 2008/09 on account of domestic and external factors. Adverse security developments, large exogenous price shocks (oil and food), and the recent global financial turmoil buffeted the economy.


https://www.imf.org/en/News/Articles/2015/09/28/04/53/socar112408c

http://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/india

 

[sparten]

He also managed to scuttle the Type 214 and MILGEM deals. Berlin had actually prepared a payment plan for the Type 214 around the time Zardari came into power, but the attention then shifted to the DCNS Marlin, and then to nothing at all. Not to mention the eventual canning of 18 optional F-16s, 36 FC-20s, grinding halt of al-Khalid MBT production, etc.

I bow to no one in my dislike of AAZ, but 2008 was the worst financial crises since 1929. It was also the start of the major Western border commitments. There was no way we were going to be able to purchase those weapon system or anyone was going to extend credit to us to do so, there was no credit in Europe or N America to give. Every defence dollar that we have went to sustaining the now very high op tempo and getting the equipment we needed for that.

We were not the only ones whose wish list got canned. The RAF fell behind in Typhoon purchases, the F35 was punted forward a decade.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

http://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/india

The point being discussed was why did Zardari put a halt to all acquisitions

It was because in 2008 ; Pakistan had to enter an IMF programme

 

[MastanKhan]

I bow to no one in my dislike of AAZ, but 2008 was the worst financial crises since 1929. It was also the start of the major Western border commitments. There was no way we were going to be able to purchase those weapon system or anyone was going to extend credit to us to do so, there was no credit in Europe or N America to give. Every defence dollar that we have went to sustaining the now very high op tempo and getting the equipment we needed for that.

We were not the only ones whose wish list got canned. The RAF fell behind in Typhoon purchases, the F35 was punted forward a decade.

Hi,

For that very reason---if you are living on the margin---in any major weapons purchase---time is of essence---.

Avail the first available opportunity in a timely expeditious manner.

And that was the right thing to do

Youngman,

Don't cut your nose to spite me---or rile me up.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Youngman,

Don't cut your nose to spite me---or rile me up.

Financial allocations are made by the PRESIDENT
Not Air chiefs

So Gen Musharraf should be blamed for PAF 's funds being directed elsewhere

The BUCK stops with the PRESIDENT

 

[HRK]

Financial allocations are made by the PRESIDENT

Is it necessary to poke your nose everywhere & prove your idiocy every time .... plz a sincere advise don't bother to make 'such' comments ....

@CriticalThought @HRK @MastanKhan @Bilal Khan (Quwa)

In 2008 ; Pakistan had entered an IMF program which
put a brake on all acquisitons programmes
South Asia

• IMF COUNTRY FOCUS

IMF Survey: Pakistan Gets $7.6 Billion Loan from IMF
IMF Survey online

November 24, 2008

• Measures to stabilize economy while protecting the poor
• Pakistan seeking additional donor support to improve safety net
• Tightening of monetary conditions will help combat inflation

The IMF's Executive Board has approved a $7.6 billion loan for Pakistan to support its program to stabilize and rebuild the economy while expanding its social safety net to protect the poor.

A worker in an iron foundry in Karachi. Pakistan will seek additional support to improve social safety nets (photo: Mohammad Zargham/PPI)

Related Links

• Pakistan and the IMF
• Outlook for region
• Asian growth to slow sharply
• IMF Pakistan website
• World leaders combat crisis

The 23-month Stand-By loan will enable the government to implement a stabilization program that envisages a significant tightening of fiscal and monetary policies to bring down inflation and reduce the external current account deficit to more sustainable levels. The program seeks to address current macroeconomic imbalances while protecting the poor and preserving social stability in the South Asian country of 170 million people.

"By providing large financial support to Pakistan, the IMF is sending a strong signal to the donor community about the country's improved macroeconomic prospects," said IMF Deputy Managing Director Takatoshi Kato.

Pakistan's economic program

"The Government's program has two objectives: first, to restore overall economic stability and confidence through a tightening of macroeconomic policies, and second, to do so in a manner that ensures social stability and adequate support for the poor during the adjustment process," said Juan Carlos Di Tata, the IMF mission chief to Pakistan.

The Pakistan authorities have already taken some difficult steps to achieve these objectives: energy subsidies have been cut and the interest rate has been increased to tighten monetary policy. The authorities' program for the coming 24 months envisages a number of additional steps:

• 
  • The fiscal deficit, excluding grants, will be brought to down from 7.4 percent of GDP in 2007/08 (starting July 1) to a more manageable 4.2 percent in 2008/09 and 3.3 percent in 2009/10—in line with what it was three years ago. This fiscal adjustment will be primarily achieved by phasing out energy subsidies and strengthening revenue mobilization through tax policy and administration measures. The reduction in expenditures will create room to increase spending on the social safety net.
  
  • The State Bank Of Pakistan (SBP) will act on monetary policy to build its international reserves, bring down inflation to 6 percent in 2010, and eliminate central bank financing of the government. The program includes measures to improve monetary management and enhance the SBP's bank resolution capacity, and avoid the use of public resources to support the stock market.
  
  • Expenditure on the social safety net will be increased to protect the poorthrough both cash transfers and targeted electricity subsidies. The fiscal program for 2008/09 envisages an increase in spending on the social safety net of 0.6 percentage points of GDP to 0.9 percent of GDP. Pakistan will also work with the World Bank to prepare a more comprehensive and better targeted social safety net program.

Contribution of the IMF

The financing from the IMF will help to ease the path of adjustment and will provide a strong signal of support to the international community. Of the $7.6 billion loan, $3.1 billion will be made available by the IMF immediately to strengthen the reserve position. And the regular monitoring of the economy by the IMF will show how the macroeconomic objectives set by the Government are being met and whether they need to be adjusted in the light of changing circumstances.

"It is important to point out that the program—and its conditionality—is based on the targets and measures that the authorities have themselves set for the next two years. The IMF is convinced that the best implemented programs are the ones that are home grown and fully owned by the country," Di Tata said.

Alongside the IMF's financial support, there is an urgent need to mobilize additional donor support to strengthen Pakistan's resilience to potential shocks, help finance the expanded social safety net, and allow for higher spending on development programs. "The Fund stands ready to participate in any donor meeting to provide the economic and financial analysis that could underpin expanded support."

Implementation key to success

Success of the program could be affected by a number of risks. They arise from security and implementation uncertainties, a more severe-than-anticipated slowdown in economic activity in trading partners, and lower-than-expected private capital inflows.

"Sustained and forceful implementation will be key to the success of the program," Di Tata stated.

Previous gains

From the early 2000s to mid-2007, Pakistan's macroeconomic performance was robust. During the period 2000/01-2004/05, when Pakistan successfully implemented two IMF-supported programs, real GDP growth averaged 5 percent a year with relative price stability. The improved macroeconomic performance enabled the country to reenter international capital markets in the mid-2000s.

The macroeconomic situation, however, deteriorated significantly in 2007/08 and the first four months of 2008/09 on account of domestic and external factors. Adverse security developments, large exogenous price shocks (oil and food), and the recent global financial turmoil buffeted the economy.


https://www.imf.org/en/News/Articles/2015/09/28/04/53/socar112408c

the topic we are discussing belongs to 2005 ... not 2008

secondly plz develop your understanding IMF does not advise (dictates) about SPECIFIC issues or segments outside the domain of economy .... its always the choices of government which make decisions to address the macro economic conditions matching the IMF standards

 

[Windjammer]

 

[Windjammer]

A PAF F-16 performing on air force day.

 

[Taha Samad]

Do MLU F-16s have 4 Hardpoints on each wing? I seems so in the screen caps below(84704):

@16:45

 

[TaimiKhan]

Do MLU F-16s have 4 Hardpoints on each wing? I seems so in the screen caps below(84704):

View attachment 424371

View attachment 424372

@16:45

F16s always had 4 hardpoints under each wing. 1 under belly and 2 under chins for pods.

 

[umair86pk]

Only early production Block 1 had 7 hard points. Block 10 introduced the chin points.

 

[MastanKhan]

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/tesla-flips-switch-increase-range-232915375.html

Hi,

For those " superstars "---who claimed there are no kill switches on the F16's---.

See what Tesla does remotely to their cars during the hurricane.

 

[Khadim e Darul Ehsaan]

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/tesla-flips-switch-increase-range-232915375.html

Hi,

For those " superstars "---who claimed there are no kill switches on the F16's---.

See what Tesla does remotely to their cars during the hurricane.

Amercans definitely have installed such things there was also an intervw of a pilot which i read somewhere who told about turkish f16 crashed and then thy latter found some hidden tracker device in the wreckage of crashed aircraft , thy r soo insecure that thy didnt allowed paf pilots to train turkish pilots even paf is also operating block52s which r also pretty advanced.besides f16 is their work horse, there own versions may be different from export ones but thy can likely do such things in my opinion

 

[fatman17]

F-16 Fighting Falcon News
History comes to a close

September 15, 2017 (by Bjorn) - The last F-16 to be produced at the United States Air Force plant nr. 4 has been finished and will be delivered to the Iraqi air force in early 2018.





IqAF F-16C block 52 #1636 is parked inside a hangar at Lockheed Fort Worth. This aircraft is a milestone since it concludes almost 40 years of consequent F-16 production at the plant. [USAF photo]


The jet was part of a 36 aircraft order by Iraq. Since Lockheed needs more space to produce the brand-new F-35 fighter, it has decided to move the production of the F-16 - if new orders would come to fruition - to Greenville, South Carolina.

This decision ends production of the most popular Western fighter after more than four decades. Since December 13th, 1973, when the first F-16 prototype #72-1567 rolled out of the factory and September of 2017 exactly 3640 F-16s were build at the site. Untill 1992 the F-16 was built by General Dynamics and afterwards by Lockheed (who took over General Dynamics' Fort Worth Convair division in that year).

Some remarkable facts. Over an almost 44-year stretch, a total of 3640 F-16s were produced. The most F-16s ever to produced in a year was 286 airframes, which happened in 1987. This equates to more than one F-16 per day being produced at that time. Since that hayday, production dwindled over the years, but always kept a steady pace. Although production stops at Fort Worth, the F-16 keeps to be an attractive fighter, recently winning an order for 19 additional airframes for Bahrain. These will be built in Greenville from late 2019, early 2020 onwards.

So the story continues........