Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[ejaz007]

May be F-16 deal with norway is on the way..

PAF expects 14 more EDA F-16's from USA.

 

[Donatello]

PAF expects 14 more EDA F-16's from USA.

They are dependent on when the US military releases them and if the airframes are in shape worthy to fly for another decade or two.

 

[Pinnacle]

PAF expects 14 more EDA F-16's from USA.

Will those 14 F-16s be free of cost or they will charge them.. ??

 

[Last Hope]

Will those 14 F-16s be free of cost or they will charge them.. ??

They've already been paid for.

 

[fatman17]

Will those 14 F-16s be free of cost or they will charge them.. ??

we pay for the MLU

They are dependent on when the US military releases them and if the airframes are in shape worthy to fly for another decade or two.

MLU will fix that problem. the PAF is wrong in insisting for the original 14 F-16's embargoes and subsequently married off to the USN who are reluctant to release them unlike the USAF which did. the PAF should choose the best available airframes from the EDA stocks and move on with the MLU. the kits are already purchased.

 

[fatman17]

Quote of the Day
“A thunderstorm is nature's way of saying, Up yours.”
-- Len Morgan

 

[Najam Khan]

Al-Saqoor II

 

[truthseeker2010]

This F-16A seemed to make a low approach but then set down on its center drop tank and skid down the runway! The aircraft aborted and pulled into a climb, went around and landed safely.

 

[fatman17]

JHMCS: Fighter Pilots’ “Look & Shoot” Helmets Changing Aerial Warfare

May 24, 2013 12:28 UTC by Defense Industry Daily staff Latest update [?]


JHMCS
Customers that DID has been able to verify include:

F-15s: USAF, US Air National Guard, South Korea (F-15K).
F-16s: USAF, Chile, Denmark, Greece, Iraq (F-16IQ block 52), The Netherlands, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Poland, Taiwan (being upgraded to near Block 60), Turkey. UAE (F-16E/F) confirmed via a social media search.
F/A-18 A-D: Australia, Canada, Finland, Switzerland. USMC and USN... {click to expand +}


JHMCS
Customers that DID has been able to verify include:
F-15s: USAF, US Air National Guard, South Korea (F-15K).
F-16s: USAF, Chile, Denmark, Greece, Iraq (F-16IQ block 52), The Netherlands, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Poland, Taiwan (being upgraded to near Block 60), Turkey. UAE (F-16E/F) confirmed via a social media search.
F/A-18 A-D: Australia, Canada, Finland, Switzerland. USMC and USN presumed.
F/A-18 E/F: US Navy; Australia likely.
Foreign Military Sale requests that haven’t yet turned into verified customers include:
F-15s: Singapore (F-15SG, possible but could also use DASH), Saudi Arabia (F-15SA, not delivered yet).
F-16s: Morocco (F-16C/D block 52).
F/A-18s: Kuwait (F/A-18C), Malaysia (F/A-18D, modifications underway).
May 17/13: Support. Vision Systems International LLC in Fort Worth, TX receives a maximum $31.1 million firm fixed price, sole source contract for various aircraft spare parts, new aircraft installs, and support equipment.
Work will be performed in Texas, Oregon, and Israel, and is scheduled to be complete by Jan 31/15. The contract covers the US Navy, USAF, Belgium (F-16 MLU), Iraq (F-16IQ), Kuwait (F/A-18C/D), Taiwan (F-16+), and Chile (F-16 var). FY 2014 through 2015 Foreign Military Sales funds will be used, alongside USAF and US Navy budgets. The contracting will be managed by the Defense Logistics Agency Aviation at Robins AFB, GA (SPRWA1-11-D-0007-0005).
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The above update is a recent abstract from our full article, itself part of our subscription offering. Keep reading to know more.

(click to view larger)In the 1970s, fighter aircraft began to appear with Head-Up Displays (HUD) that projected key information, targeting crosshairs etc. onto a seemingly clear piece of glass. HUDs allowed pilots to keep their eyes in the sky, instead of looking down at their instruments. In the 1990s, another innovation appeared: helmet-mounted displays (HMDs) put the HUD inside the pilot’s helmet, providing this information even when the pilot wasn’t looking straight ahead. The Israelis were already pioneering a system called DASH (Display And Sight Helmet) when a set of former East German MiG-29s, equipped with Soviet HMDs, slaughtered USAF F-16s in NATO exercises. Suddenly, helmet-mounted displays became must-haves for modern fighters – and a key partnership positioned Elbit to take DASH to the next level.

This DID Spotlight article offers insights into the rocky past, successful present, and competitive future of a program that has experienced its share of snags and controversy – but went on to become the #1 helmet-mounted sight in the world. It also details the game-changing effects of Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems on air combat, its production sets and known customers, and all contracts since full-rate production began.


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[Arsalan]

JHMCS: Fighter Pilots’ “Look & Shoot” Helmets Changing Aerial Warfare

May 24, 2013 12:28 UTC by Defense Industry Daily staff Latest update [?]


JHMCS
Customers that DID has been able to verify include:

F-15s: USAF, US Air National Guard, South Korea (F-15K).
F-16s: USAF, Chile, Denmark, Greece, Iraq (F-16IQ block 52), The Netherlands, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Poland, Taiwan (being upgraded to near Block 60), Turkey. UAE (F-16E/F) confirmed via a social media search.
F/A-18 A-D: Australia, Canada, Finland, Switzerland. USMC and USN... {click to expand +}


JHMCS
Customers that DID has been able to verify include:
F-15s: USAF, US Air National Guard, South Korea (F-15K).
F-16s: USAF, Chile, Denmark, Greece, Iraq (F-16IQ block 52), The Netherlands, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Poland, Taiwan (being upgraded to near Block 60), Turkey. UAE (F-16E/F) confirmed via a social media search.
F/A-18 A-D: Australia, Canada, Finland, Switzerland. USMC and USN presumed.
F/A-18 E/F: US Navy; Australia likely.
Foreign Military Sale requests that haven’t yet turned into verified customers include:
F-15s: Singapore (F-15SG, possible but could also use DASH), Saudi Arabia (F-15SA, not delivered yet).
F-16s: Morocco (F-16C/D block 52).
F/A-18s: Kuwait (F/A-18C), Malaysia (F/A-18D, modifications underway).
May 17/13: Support. Vision Systems International LLC in Fort Worth, TX receives a maximum $31.1 million firm fixed price, sole source contract for various aircraft spare parts, new aircraft installs, and support equipment.
Work will be performed in Texas, Oregon, and Israel, and is scheduled to be complete by Jan 31/15. The contract covers the US Navy, USAF, Belgium (F-16 MLU), Iraq (F-16IQ), Kuwait (F/A-18C/D), Taiwan (F-16+), and Chile (F-16 var). FY 2014 through 2015 Foreign Military Sales funds will be used, alongside USAF and US Navy budgets. The contracting will be managed by the Defense Logistics Agency Aviation at Robins AFB, GA (SPRWA1-11-D-0007-0005).
{^}
The above update is a recent abstract from our full article, itself part of our subscription offering. Keep reading to know more.

(click to view larger)In the 1970s, fighter aircraft began to appear with Head-Up Displays (HUD) that projected key information, targeting crosshairs etc. onto a seemingly clear piece of glass. HUDs allowed pilots to keep their eyes in the sky, instead of looking down at their instruments. In the 1990s, another innovation appeared: helmet-mounted displays (HMDs) put the HUD inside the pilot’s helmet, providing this information even when the pilot wasn’t looking straight ahead. The Israelis were already pioneering a system called DASH (Display And Sight Helmet) when a set of former East German MiG-29s, equipped with Soviet HMDs, slaughtered USAF F-16s in NATO exercises. Suddenly, helmet-mounted displays became must-haves for modern fighters – and a key partnership positioned Elbit to take DASH to the next level.

This DID Spotlight article offers insights into the rocky past, successful present, and competitive future of a program that has experienced its share of snags and controversy – but went on to become the #1 helmet-mounted sight in the world. It also details the game-changing effects of Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems on air combat, its production sets and known customers, and all contracts since full-rate production began.


Displaying 429 of 8,932 words (about 23 pages)

Are we going to use these with our F-16 MLU batch as well? Have studied the system and it is really impressive, i hope we do get these operation with the MLU aircraft as well

 

[Jango]

Not related to PAF but still, the Taiwanese F-16 are being labelled as near Block 60 in the article fatman provided, what does that mean? What upgrades are they undergoing?

 

[Luftwaffe]

Not related to PAF but still, the Taiwanese F-16 are being labelled as near Block 60 in the article fatman provided, what does that mean? What upgrades are they undergoing?

Lockheed Martin · Lockheed Martin Awarded Upgrade Contract For 145 F-16s Of The Republic Of China Air Force

Teaching an Old Dog New Tricks: Taiwan’s F-16 Upgrade | The Diplomat

 

[Pinnacle]

Are we going to use these with our F-16 MLU batch as well? Have studied the system and it is really impressive, i hope we do get these operation with the MLU aircraft as well

Yeah.. We can use JHMCS with our F-16 MLUs according to contract...
Analyzing the Pakistan Air Force's F-16 Mid Life Update (MLU) program | Terminal X

 

[Najam Khan]

Are we going to use these with our F-16 MLU batch as well? Have studied the system and it is really impressive, i hope we do get these operation with the MLU aircraft as well

Oh Yes!

Official MLU unit patch.

 

[alimobin memon]

What jammer pods do the PAF f16 carry ?