Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[cabatli_53]

Hey buddy,
Any videos of the PAF f-16 mass launch from AE'15?

We have just this new video revealed in those days bro. If a new one related with Pakistani AF are revealed regarding Anatolian Eagle 2015-01, I will share it to here as well...

 

[Donatello]

We have just this new video revealed in those days bro. If a new one related with Pakistani AF are revealed regarding Anatolian Eagle 2015-01, I will share it to here as well...

hmm, cool. I saw this video, couldn't find the PAF F-16s launch......saw the Turkish, USA units. So was just wondering. There seemed to be plenty of spotters there, so maybe someone will upload?

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Can only be either the HARM or the AIM9X?

Or AIM120 D

 

[Donatello]

Or AIM120 D

AIM120D is evolutionary........AIM9X and HARM are a different league and ball game. They take the combat scenario to a whole new level.

 

[Neptune]

hmm, cool. I saw this video, couldn't find the PAF F-16s launch......saw the Turkish, USA units. So was just wondering. There seemed to be plenty of spotters there, so maybe someone will upload?

I suggest you guys to wait for the TAF General Staff releases. Here's their social media accounts belonging to Photo & Film Command:

Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri - YouTube

Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri - Google+

 

[fatman17]

Konya

 

[Donatello]

Hoping that the request for 18 BLK52s and 15 MLU F-16s gets approval.........sources say PAF has requested some extra goodies to go with the jets this time.

 

[mingle]

Hoping that the request for 18 BLK52s and 15 MLU F-16s gets approval.........sources say PAF has requested some extra goodies to go with the jets this time.

Not sure but Iraqi F 16 s R in limbo too.reason is situation in Iraq .

 

[Donatello]

Not sure but Iraqi F 16 s R in limbo too.reason is situation in Iraq .

We need to move fast.....if Donald Trump became the president......wallah!
@MastanKhan

 

[ziaulislam]

Hoping that the request for 18 BLK52s and 15 MLU F-16s gets approval.........sources say PAF has requested some extra goodies to go with the jets this time.

with evolving threat scenario esp the rafale, it would have been better to request the block 60

 

[Donatello]

with evolving threat scenario esp the rafale, it would have been better to request the block 60

Not possible, since there is no use in just getting a limited number of BLK60s, while the majority of your fleet is BLK52. Secondly, you could ask to retrofit the SABR on the existing F-16s, but a lot of them will be retiring in 10-15 years....so PAF has to go with cost benefit analysis.
We would be very fortunate if we can have an all BVR F-16 fleet of 100+ aircraft.
AESA will come soon enough on the JF-17 BLKIII

 

[mingle]

We need to move fast.....if Donald Trump became the president......wallah!
@MastanKhan

Donald Duck has no chance he will fizzle out in primaries.For him it's a publicity stunt that's it .it will be a good match but between Jeb Bush and Ms Clinton .I can tell u it will be photo finish Both of them our buddies no worries .

 

[ziaulislam]

Not possible, since there is no use in just getting a limited number of BLK60s, while the majority of your fleet is BLK52. Secondly, you could ask to retrofit the SABR on the existing F-16s, but a lot of them will be retiring in 10-15 years....so PAF has to go with cost benefit analysis.
We would be very fortunate if we can have an all BVR F-16 fleet of 100+ aircraft.
AESA will come soon enough on the JF-17 BLKIII

i think PAF should think of SABR for the previously newly bought block 52 and for any new ones it intend to buy..if it doesnt, than i doubt the cost effectiveness of buying new vipers..better to stick with older/second hand vipers than?

 

[Donatello]

i think PAF should think of SABR for the previously newly bought block 52 and for any new ones it intend to buy..if it doesnt, than i doubt the cost effectiveness of buying new vipers..better to stick with older/second hand vipers than?

If we get 2 squadrons of F-16s MLU and new BLK52s, then it replaces two old Mirage and/or F-7 squadrons, so that in itself is a massive boost. Not to mention the time to set up and transition the squadron would be minimum since PAF already has the infrastructure, combat doctrine and pilot training in place.

 

[ziaulislam]

If we get 2 squadrons of F-16s MLU and new BLK52s, then it replaces two old Mirage and/or F-7 squadrons, so that in itself is a massive boost. Not to mention the time to set up and transition the squadron would be minimum since PAF already has the infrastructure, combat doctrine and pilot training in place.

noone will doubt the MLUs but buying new block52 without sabr will be debatable, whether it will be wise to spend money on a jet that cost 3-4 times more than a standard JF-17 thunder. Saving time argument can also be brought into question as unlike MLUs , even if orders are given now, it will take at least 2 years to get the new Vipers. By that time we would have started to induct block 3 thunders
so may be as a package deal it would be a good choice, but investing a little more to get SABR on board will make it on par with incoming batch of rafales, nullifying an technological superiority that IAF may attain

The inside news is that Pakistan is reviving the option of buying 18 F16s CD models from the US. They will be purchased by Pakistani funds. Nearly 1.2B US $ will be required.

wasn't there a time frame with that deal.? I am indicating this for the reason of cost. as time frame has passed the cost may not be the same 1.2 billion we paid for the first 18 batch of block52 vipers