Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[Imran Khan]

cft is basically israeli concept
i read some where that cfts of current f-16s bl-52 are israeli made and the tail of f-16 bl-52

wrong FCT concept and use is from 50s and lockheed did it for F-16 not israel .

First phase of flight testing of the F-16 conformal fuel tanks completed :: F-16.net

 

[Jango]

The PAF F-16's do have a refueling nozzle, but how do they practice for that?

The F-16's refueled from KC-135's of USAF during Red Flag exercise, but would the PAF pilots had any practice prior to that?

Or is aerial refueling easy for the jet pilot and difficult for the boom operator?

 

[SQ8]

The PAF F-16's do have a refueling nozzle, but how do they practice for that?

The F-16's refueled from KC-135's of USAF during Red Flag exercise, but would the PAF pilots had any practice prior to that?

Or is aerial refueling easy for the jet pilot and difficult for the boom operator?

The plumbing needed to be refreshed since it had never been used as such since.. ever.
Other than that.. Its just a matter of a steady hand a certain briefings. Otherwise the USAF boom system is a joint effort on the part of the pilot and boom operator. But if you can follow his instructions to match speed, go up ten feet down ten.. left.. etc... being n average pilot you can pull it off...esp in something as nimble as a F-16.
Try asking the C-5 pilots how they refuel.

 

[Thorough Pro]

I think PAF pilots were trained for aerial refueling in Pakistan by US Tankers before they left for the exercises. It would have been very unprofessional for PAF high command to send 6 fighters and 12 valuable pilots over Atlantic without any prior training to get last minute instructions of 10 foot up, right or left from a boom operator.

The PAF F-16's do have a refueling nozzle, but how do they practice for that?

The F-16's refueled from KC-135's of USAF during Red Flag exercise, but would the PAF pilots had any practice prior to that?

Or is aerial refueling easy for the jet pilot and difficult for the boom operator?

 

[Argus Panoptes]

The plumbing needed to be refreshed since it had never been used as such since.. ever.
Other than that.. Its just a matter of a steady hand a certain briefings. Otherwise the USAF boom system is a joint effort on the part of the pilot and boom operator. But if you can follow his instructions to match speed, go up ten feet down ten.. left.. etc... being n average pilot you can pull it off...esp in something as nimble as a F-16.
Try asking the C-5 pilots how they refuel.

There is a set of marks on the belly of the tanker. When the aircraft is in the proper position, they appear as a cross to the pilot of the receiving aircraft. He/she simply holds that position while the boom operator "flies" the boom to mate with the receptacle.

 

[Storm Force]

Sixty three f16 in paf

 

[TOPGUN]

Sixty three f16 in paf

Thank you for the info .... good job but we know how many vipers we have

 

[Viper0011.]

I think PAF pilots were trained for aerial refueling in Pakistan by US Tankers before they left for the exercises. It would have been very unprofessional for PAF high command to send 6 fighters and 12 valuable pilots over Atlantic without any prior training to get last minute instructions of 10 foot up, right or left from a boom operator.

KC-135 tanker simulation system is used for training first. Second, the tanker's boom operator uses similar to PS-2 joy sticks to operate the boom probe and direct it to connect with the refueling duct. This doesn't require months of training.... the pilot needs to hold an aircraft steady at a certain airspeed and angle as instructed by the tanker and upon manuals or markings available on the tanker. The rest is done by the boom operator.

Sixty three f16 in paf

How many have been MLU'd? Does anyone know the number?

 

[Last Hope]

How many have been MLU'd? Does anyone know the number?

According to a PDF Think Tank, 12 units have gone through MLU progress are in service.

 

[Viper0011.]

According to a PDF Think Tank, 12 units have gone through MLU progress are in service.

How many left and when will all of them be MLU'd?

 

[Donatello]

How many left and when will all of them be MLU'd?

32 original peace gate f-16s and then 14 from USA. Total of 46. Minus 1 attrition loss.


45-12 =33

So 33 units left to go for MLU.

However, if another 14 are released by USN or USAF, then add those. I believe Pakistan bought 60 MLU kits.

 

[fatman17]

32 original peace gate f-16s and then 14 from USA. Total of 46. Minus 1 attrition loss.


45-12 =33

So 33 units left to go for MLU.

However, if another 14 are released by USN or USAF, then add those. I believe Pakistan bought 60 MLU kits.

42 in Turkey, 3 in the US (pattern a/c), 1 attrition.

 

[nomi007]

U.S. F-16s tasked to destroy enemy radars, missile batteries to get the same radar-absorbing paint job of the F-35

All the U.S. “Wild Weasel” F-16s are being given a new paint job similar to the one of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.

It is called “Have Glass 5th generation” as it represents the evolution of the standard Have Glass program that saw all the F-16s receiving a two-tone grey color scheme made with a special radar-absorbing paint capable to reduce the aircraft Radar Cross Section: in fact, “Vipers” are covered with RAM (Radar Absorbent Material) made of microscopic metal grains that can degrade the radar signature of the aircraft.

For the moment, the JSF-like paint job will be applied to the F-16CM (formerly CJ) Block 50 Fighting Falcon aircraft that can carry a variety of air-to-air and air-to-surface ordnance, including HARM (High-speed Anti-Radiation Missiles) and precision-guided munitions.

Their role is to enter the enemy territory ahead of the strike package to take care of the enemy air defenses: radars and fixed and mobile SAM (Surface to Air Missiles) batteries.

Therefore, the units that will fly with the F-16CMs in the new color scheme will be those tasked with SEAD (Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses) missions: the 52nd Fighter Wing at Spangdahlem (Germany), the 35th FW at Misawa (Japan), the 20th FW at Shaw Air Force Base, the 169th FW at McEntire Joint National Guard Base (SC), and 148th FW at Duluth International Airport, (MN).

Whilst two aircraft in the U.S. flew the Have Glass 4 paint job for test purposes (98-0004 and 98-0005 flying with the 85th Test and Evaluation Squadron from Eglin AFB) the first aircraft spotted in the new livery is a Minnesota ANG F-16CM, 91-0391, that is currently deployed at Kandahar, Afghanistan.

The F-35 will replace the F-16CM in the SEAD role in the future.

is this paint available for export

 

[Luftwaffe]

is this paint available for export

No likely perhaps customers like Singapore, U.A.E, S.Korea might get it later in years to come.

 

[nomi007]

The frontal sector optronics (OSF) in f-16 bl-60