Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[The Raven]

Why they are doing it kindly share details.

Better kinematic performance at higher altitude and a more compact airframe that can fit more missiles in the internal weapon bays of fifth gen fighters - ramjet powered missiles need intake ducting, which makes them relatively bulky airframes.

 

[PurpleButcher]

We need US permission before mating?

I don't need US permission before "mating"

 

[Raider 21]

Absolutely not - the interface may exist but there are source codes required which are likely(99.98%) not to be released to Pakistan for integration with the Chinese Radar and the FCS.

And if the avionics standard is not the same MILSTD, it most likely will not support the employment of the missiles.

 

[The Raven]

And if the avionics standard is not the same MILSTD, it most likely will not support the employment of the missiles.

As far as I know the JF-17 uses MIL-STD-1760/1553 bus architecture, so technically it's possible, but the issue is one of end user agreements and seeking the relevant authorisation. The PAF have integrated AIM-9 on Chinese fighters before without the benefit of using an industry standard bus. In any case, there's limited tactical benefit of integrating the AMRAAM/AIM-9 on the JF-17, as we only have enough to equip our Viper fleet, and the equivalent SD-10/PL-5 have similar performance, as well as moving on to PL-15/PL-10.

 

[Iceman2]

I don't need US permission before "mating"

I hope your not mating with C5s

 

[ghazi52]

No hour of life is wasted that is spent in saddle of an F-16 Fighting Falcon ...

 

[Scorpiooo]

Absolutely not - the interface may exist but there are source codes required which are likely(99.98%) not to be released to Pakistan for integration with the Chinese Radar and the FCS.

American will never ever will provide even single bit of source code to PAF

 

[Clairvoyant]

Latest addition to the 3000 hours club.
Then Wing Commander now Group Captain Umar.
Just shows how actively these guys fly during their career.

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[Windjammer]

Group Captain Umer ''Archer'' Rasheed, one of the few PAF pilot to have achieved 3000 hours flying the Viper.

 

[Scorpiooo]

Beautiful Beast (not belong to PAF)

 

[iLION12345_1]

Beautiful Beast
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That’s a UAEAF F-16 Block 60

 

[Scorpiooo]

That’s a UAEAF F-16 Block 60

Yes it is, i didn't mentioned its belong to PAF. I mentioned about the look and capabilities of F16s in general, a fantastic picture in it self

Anyways modify discuss to clear confusion

 

[iLION12345_1]

The Block 60 was designed for the United Arab Emirates Air Force (UAEAF). It Based on the F-16C/D Block 50/52, A major difference from previous blocks is the Northrop Grumman AN/APG-80 Active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar. The Block 60's General Electric F110-GE-132 engine is a development of the −129 model and is rated at 32,500 lbf (144 kN). The Electronic Warfare system includes the Northrop Grumman Falcon Edge Integrated Electronic Warfare Suite RWR together with the AN/ALQ-165 Self-Protection Jammer. Falcon Edge, which was developed by Northrop Grumman specifically for the Block 60, is capable of showing not only the bearing of any threat but also the range.

The MIL-STD-1553 data bus is replaced by MIL-STD-1773 fiber-optic data bus which offers a 1,000 times increase in data-handling capability. Like the F-35, the Block 60 F-16 has a built in FLIR/laser targeting system rather than using a dedicated pod that would occupy a hardpoint, increase drag and RCS.

These were basically the first F-16s to use AESA radars way back before F-16V. They were the pinnacle of F-16 models until the V came out and are still pretty close to that series. UAE almost upgraded then further to “Block 61” models but instead is going for 5th gens now.

 

[WiderMan]

The Block 60 was designed for the United Arab Emirates Air Force (UAEAF). It Based on the F-16C/D Block 50/52, A major difference from previous blocks is the Northrop Grumman AN/APG-80 Active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar. The Block 60's General Electric F110-GE-132 engine is a development of the −129 model and is rated at 32,500 lbf (144 kN). The Electronic Warfare system includes the Northrop Grumman Falcon Edge Integrated Electronic Warfare Suite RWR together with the AN/ALQ-165 Self-Protection Jammer. Falcon Edge, which was developed by Northrop Grumman specifically for the Block 60, is capable of showing not only the bearing of any threat but also the range.

The MIL-STD-1553 data bus is replaced by MIL-STD-1773 fiber-optic data bus which offers a 1,000 times increase in data-handling capability. Like the F-35, the Block 60 F-16 has a built in FLIR/laser targeting system rather than using a dedicated pod that would occupy a hardpoint, increase drag and RCS.

These were basically the first F-16s to use AESA radars way back before F-16V. They were the pinnacle of F-16 models until the V came out and are still pretty close to that series. UAE almost upgraded then further to “Block 61” models but instead is going for 5th gens now.

Wrong. The Block 60s, to this day, are far more capable than any subsequent iterations of the Viper.

 

[Blacklight]

The Block 60 was designed for the United Arab Emirates Air Force (UAEAF). It Based on the F-16C/D Block 50/52, A major difference from previous blocks is the Northrop Grumman AN/APG-80 Active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar. The Block 60's General Electric F110-GE-132 engine is a development of the −129 model and is rated at 32,500 lbf (144 kN). The Electronic Warfare system includes the Northrop Grumman Falcon Edge Integrated Electronic Warfare Suite RWR together with the AN/ALQ-165 Self-Protection Jammer. Falcon Edge, which was developed by Northrop Grumman specifically for the Block 60, is capable of showing not only the bearing of any threat but also the range.

The MIL-STD-1553 data bus is replaced by MIL-STD-1773 fiber-optic data bus which offers a 1,000 times increase in data-handling capability. Like the F-35, the Block 60 F-16 has a built in FLIR/laser targeting system rather than using a dedicated pod that would occupy a hardpoint, increase drag and RCS.

These were basically the first F-16s to use AESA radars way back before F-16V. They were the pinnacle of F-16 models until the V came out and are still pretty close to that series. UAE almost upgraded then further to “Block 61” models but instead is going for 5th gens now.

1) They have been upgraded to Blk61

2) GCAS