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Pakistan could have up to 250 nuclear warheads by 2025, says report | Janes

Only when they are built and deployed.
Stop living in bollywood fantasies, India will not survive 100+ nuclear strike done by Pakistani nukes.

This is a fact. That is why the Indian establishment is hesitant to go to war with Pakistan.

Only when they are built and deployed.
Stop making excuses. When Pakistan launches 100+ nukes into India, India would be destroyed.

I know you are offended, but these are the facts.
 
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Stop living in bollywood fantasies, India will not survive 100+ nuclear strike done by Pakistani nukes.

This is a fact. That is why the Indian establishment is hesitant to go to war with Pakistan.


Stop making excuses. When Pakistan launches 100+ nukes into India, India would be destroyed.

I know you are offended, but these are the facts.
Facts? I have seen everything on this topic but facts.

Here is a final fact for you.

100x45kt = 4500 kt.
Thats just 4.5 Megatonne.

China's first test was 3.3 Megatonne.
Russia test 45 Mt bomb.

Both of these were air detonations.

The browing out of environment didn't happen.

Sure as hell Pakistan's current stockpile of nuclear bombs cannot do that.

BTW, @waz largest fusion boosted bomb to be tested was a 500 kt design called ivy king. It needed 60 Kg of HEU and some unknown mass of plutonium too. It was a super Oralloy design. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_King)

A 600 kt design will take more HEU and plutonium.

Now for 100 such weapons, even if hypothetically tried, will take 6000 Kg of HEU and unknown amount of Plutonium.

http://fissilematerials.org/

Pakistan only has 3400 Kg of HEU at its disposal. And its plutonium stockpile is very meager.

So only way foreward for Pakistan is to get thermonuclear weapons. That requires testing surely! Heck a design like Ivy King does too. Let Pakistan first test the design then its claim can be taken seriously. 600 kt out of nowhere, sure!

And lets not even talk about the weight issues in delivering a 600 kt fusion boosted design as a war head.

@Iqbal Ali

See above, these are called facts. What you are plastering all over are mere weak assertions.
 
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Please be kind enough to provide a link.

Yes sure.

You better look at what the experts say about it!!
Here Geoff Olynyk;

https://www.quora.com/How-lethal-ar...-there-is-a-strong-chance-of-a-nuclear-attack

His Twitter;
twitter https://ca.linkedin.com/in/olynykResearch papers;

His research papers
https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=fHxRnzkAAAAJ&hl=en

Company profile
https://ca.linkedin.com/in/olynyk


writes about the power of Pakistan's weapons.



Geoff Olynyk
, Ph.D., Applied Plasma Physics and Fusion Energy, MIT, 2013
Updated Feb 18, 2013 · Author has 218 answers and 1.1m answer views


The short answer, of course, is very lethal, like all nuclear weapons. Read on for more details.

So according to the Pakistan and weapons of mass destruction article on Wikipedia, Pakistan possesses four delivery mechanisms for a nuclear attack in the area:

  • Medium-range ballistic missile (MRBM). Range, 2500 km. Estimated yield 300–500 kt (kilotons of TNT equivalent).
  • Nuclear-tipped Babur cruise missiles. Range, 700 km. Yield - ?
  • Nuclear bombs carried by fighter-bombers. Estimated yield up to 150 kt.
  • Cruise missiles carried by fighter-bombers. Warhead estimated yield 20–25 kt.

The fighter-bombers likely drop 150 kt bombs or launch cruise missiles with 20–25 kt warheads. The most powerful warheads in Pakistan's arsenal are estimated to have a yield 300–500 kt, delivered by the Ghauri-I MRBM:

ghauri-hatf-v-missile-ppi1.jpg

Ghauri medium-range ballistic missiles.

Note that this would be a very similar yield to the U.S.'s most advanced warhead, the 475 kt W88. (Although the Pakistani one is probably much heavier due to the less advanced technology, and thus you can't carry as many of them on a missile.)

As we start discussing the effects, keep in mind the pictures of the destruction in Hiroshima (the Little Boy bomb had a yield of 13 kt), and remember that a 500 kt weapon is nearly 40 times more powerful.

13-blast-damage_1218012i.jpg

Effects of a 13 kt air burst.

They are also apparently working on a sea-launched cruise missile (a naval variant of the Babur) and a smaller nuclear warhead that can be put on Pakistan's Chinese-made C-802 and C-803 anti-ship missiles, but these delivery mechanisms are not operational yet.

Taking the upper end of the estimated range of Pakistani warheads (500 kilotons) is convenient because the U.S. government published a bunch of graphs on the effects of a 500 kt blast in the report Nuclear Attack Environment Handbook (FEMA, August 1990). The graphics below are taken from here, which reproduces the FEMA book.

Here is an overview of the effects of a 500 kt surface burst:

blast1.jpg


There is heavy damage (5 psi overpressure) out to a radius of about 2.2 miles.

If they are smarter about it and detonate it 1.1 miles in the air (see Geoff Olynyk's answer to Why doesn't the blast from a nuke take place on the ground?), the damage radius is larger:

blast4.jpg


There is now heavy damage out to a radius of 3.2 miles. The government also helpfully calculated the winds produced by a 500 kt air burst:

main-qimg-ce7213763bde8f1d96765f1eb91394bf.webp


and a nice graph showing all the other fun effects (eardrums burst! serious glass wounds!) from a 500 kt air burst:

tab3-I.gif


Finally, here are the radii at which you get flash burns from the light (thermal radiation) from a 500 kt air burst, depending on how clear of a day it is:

main-qimg-d598cf5b7b3b575aa23432d046d7f5e0.webp


Okay, that's enough detail. To actually answer your question, the overpressure at which buildings fall and people die immediately is about 20 psi, but it's more likely than not that you'll die at the 5 psi level also, due to flying debris, you getting thrown about, fire, glass, etc. Even if you survive, your eardrums will explode and you'll probably die within a few hours anyway due to the burns.

So for a 500 kt weapon (upper estimate of Pakistani capability), with an air burst, that's a radius of 0.6 miles (1.0 km) for the 20 psi overpressure, or 3.2 miles (5.1 km) for the 5 psi overpressure. Note that's radius from the hypocenter (the point on the ground below where the warhead detonates).

But if you want a better chance of survival, just looking at the graphs above (I obviously have no personal experience with this), you'll want to be more like 6–7 miles (9–11 km) away from the hypocenter.

There is lots more discussion of the effects of a 500 kt airburst at this company trying to sell you a fallout shelter's website:

  • Impact lethality out to just over 4 miles.
  • Impact skull fracture and serious glass wounds out to 5 miles.
  • Impact injuries out to over 6 miles, with 50% probability of 3rd degree burns, if in clear line-of-sight at the instant of initial flash.
  • Skin lacerations from glass fragments out to almost 9 miles, with 50% probability of 1st degree burns, if in clear line-of-sight at instant of initial flash.

They say the "lethal radius" is 2.2 miles, which corresponds to the 10 psi overpressure curve.

You can put these radii on your city using the widget here.
Ground Zero | Carloslabs (Choose the Joe-4 400 kt weapon.)

Finally, I note that for the smaller Pakistani weapons (say, the 20 kt nuclear-tipped airplane-launched cruise missile), the 5- and 20-psi overpressure radii will obviously be smaller; about 35% as large in radius. You can get a sense of the destruction from such a weapon by looking at pictures of Nagasaki (the Fat Man had a yield of 21 kt).

Also, I love how Quora now thinks I'm some sort of expert on nuclear weapons because I've answered a few questions with links to Wikipedia. Every time I answer another one of these nuclear weapon questions on Quora, I'm more and more disgusted at humanity for building so many of them.

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Pakistan could have up to 250 nuclear warheads by 2025, says report
Gabriel Dominguez, London and Karl Dewey, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
05 September 2018

Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal could grow from an estimated 140–150 to between 220 and 250 warheads within the next seven years if the South Asian country continues expanding its nuclear weapon programme and delivery capabilities, according to a report published on 31 August by the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists.

Authored by members of the Federation of American Scientists, the 12-page long report points out that the country is expanding its uranium-enrichment and plutonium production facilities, as well as developing several delivery systems.

“Pakistan continues to expand its nuclear arsenal with more warheads, more delivery systems, and a growing fissile materials production industry … We estimate that the country’s stockpile could … grow to 220 to 250 warheads by 2025, if the current trend continues,” states the report, pointing out that this would make Pakistan the world’s fifth-largest “nuclear weapon state”.

Source:https://www.janes.com/article/82789...p-to-250-nuclear-warheads-by-2025-says-report

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Such waste of money and resources
 
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Facts? I have seen everything on this topic but facts.

Here is a final fact for you.

100x45kt = 4500 kt.
Thats just 4.5 Megatonne.

China's first test was 3.3 Megatonne.
Russia test 45 Mt bomb.

Both of these were air detonations.

The browing out of environment didn't happen.

Sure as hell Pakistan's current stockpile of nuclear bombs cannot do that.

BTW, @waz largest fusion boosted bomb to be tested was a 500 kt design called ivy king. It needed 60 Kg of HEU and some unknown mass of plutonium too. It was a super Oralloy design. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_King)

A 600 kt design will take more HEU and plutonium.

Now for 100 such weapons, even if hypothetically tried, will take 6000 Kg of HEU and unknown amount of Plutonium.

http://fissilematerials.org/

Pakistan only has 3400 Kg of HEU at its disposal.

So only way foreward for Pakistan is to get thermonuclear weapons. That requires testing surely! Heck a design like Ivy King does too. Let Pakistan first test the design then its claim can be taken seriously.

And lets not even talk about the weight issues in delivering a 600 kt fusion boosted design as a war head.

@Iqbal Ali

See above, these are called facts. What you are plastering all over are mere weak assertions.



Indian government can't even provide toilet for its people. To think it can coordinate the response to a nuclear strike is pure Bollywood fantasy. Your posturing is rubbish.
 
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Yes sure.

You better look at what the experts say about it!!
Here Geoff Olynyk;

https://www.quora.com/How-lethal-ar...-there-is-a-strong-chance-of-a-nuclear-attack

His Twitter;
twitter https://ca.linkedin.com/in/olynykResearch papers;

His research papers
https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=fHxRnzkAAAAJ&hl=en

Company profile
https://ca.linkedin.com/in/olynyk


writes about the power of Pakistan's weapons.



Geoff Olynyk
, Ph.D., Applied Plasma Physics and Fusion Energy, MIT, 2013
Updated Feb 18, 2013 · Author has 218 answers and 1.1m answer views


The short answer, of course, is very lethal, like all nuclear weapons. Read on for more details.

So according to the Pakistan and weapons of mass destruction article on Wikipedia, Pakistan possesses four delivery mechanisms for a nuclear attack in the area:

  • Medium-range ballistic missile (MRBM). Range, 2500 km. Estimated yield 300–500 kt (kilotons of TNT equivalent).
  • Nuclear-tipped Babur cruise missiles. Range, 700 km. Yield - ?
  • Nuclear bombs carried by fighter-bombers. Estimated yield up to 150 kt.
  • Cruise missiles carried by fighter-bombers. Warhead estimated yield 20–25 kt.

The fighter-bombers likely drop 150 kt bombs or launch cruise missiles with 20–25 kt warheads. The most powerful warheads in Pakistan's arsenal are estimated to have a yield 300–500 kt, delivered by the Ghauri-I MRBM:

ghauri-hatf-v-missile-ppi1.jpg

Ghauri medium-range ballistic missiles.

Note that this would be a very similar yield to the U.S.'s most advanced warhead, the 475 kt W88. (Although the Pakistani one is probably much heavier due to the less advanced technology, and thus you can't carry as many of them on a missile.)

As we start discussing the effects, keep in mind the pictures of the destruction in Hiroshima (the Little Boy bomb had a yield of 13 kt), and remember that a 500 kt weapon is nearly 40 times more powerful.

13-blast-damage_1218012i.jpg

Effects of a 13 kt air burst.

They are also apparently working on a sea-launched cruise missile (a naval variant of the Babur) and a smaller nuclear warhead that can be put on Pakistan's Chinese-made C-802 and C-803 anti-ship missiles, but these delivery mechanisms are not operational yet.

Taking the upper end of the estimated range of Pakistani warheads (500 kilotons) is convenient because the U.S. government published a bunch of graphs on the effects of a 500 kt blast in the report Nuclear Attack Environment Handbook (FEMA, August 1990). The graphics below are taken from here, which reproduces the FEMA book.

Here is an overview of the effects of a 500 kt surface burst:

blast1.jpg


There is heavy damage (5 psi overpressure) out to a radius of about 2.2 miles.

If they are smarter about it and detonate it 1.1 miles in the air (see Geoff Olynyk's answer to Why doesn't the blast from a nuke take place on the ground?), the damage radius is larger:

blast4.jpg


There is now heavy damage out to a radius of 3.2 miles. The government also helpfully calculated the winds produced by a 500 kt air burst:

main-qimg-ce7213763bde8f1d96765f1eb91394bf.webp


and a nice graph showing all the other fun effects (eardrums burst! serious glass wounds!) from a 500 kt air burst:

tab3-I.gif


Finally, here are the radii at which you get flash burns from the light (thermal radiation) from a 500 kt air burst, depending on how clear of a day it is:

main-qimg-d598cf5b7b3b575aa23432d046d7f5e0.webp


Okay, that's enough detail. To actually answer your question, the overpressure at which buildings fall and people die immediately is about 20 psi, but it's more likely than not that you'll die at the 5 psi level also, due to flying debris, you getting thrown about, fire, glass, etc. Even if you survive, your eardrums will explode and you'll probably die within a few hours anyway due to the burns.

So for a 500 kt weapon (upper estimate of Pakistani capability), with an air burst, that's a radius of 0.6 miles (1.0 km) for the 20 psi overpressure, or 3.2 miles (5.1 km) for the 5 psi overpressure. Note that's radius from the hypocenter (the point on the ground below where the warhead detonates).

But if you want a better chance of survival, just looking at the graphs above (I obviously have no personal experience with this), you'll want to be more like 6–7 miles (9–11 km) away from the hypocenter.

There is lots more discussion of the effects of a 500 kt airburst at this company trying to sell you a fallout shelter's website:

  • Impact lethality out to just over 4 miles.
  • Impact skull fracture and serious glass wounds out to 5 miles.
  • Impact injuries out to over 6 miles, with 50% probability of 3rd degree burns, if in clear line-of-sight at the instant of initial flash.
  • Skin lacerations from glass fragments out to almost 9 miles, with 50% probability of 1st degree burns, if in clear line-of-sight at instant of initial flash.

They say the "lethal radius" is 2.2 miles, which corresponds to the 10 psi overpressure curve.

You can put these radii on your city using the widget here.
Ground Zero | Carloslabs (Choose the Joe-4 400 kt weapon.)

Finally, I note that for the smaller Pakistani weapons (say, the 20 kt nuclear-tipped airplane-launched cruise missile), the 5- and 20-psi overpressure radii will obviously be smaller; about 35% as large in radius. You can get a sense of the destruction from such a weapon by looking at pictures of Nagasaki (the Fat Man had a yield of 21 kt).

Also, I love how Quora now thinks I'm some sort of expert on nuclear weapons because I've answered a few questions with links to Wikipedia. Every time I answer another one of these nuclear weapon questions on Quora, I'm more and more disgusted at humanity for building so many of them.

main-qimg-8976d6816a921f95b4c76fbcde1f645d
Good job @waz, you have answered the troll @Shamsher1990


@Shamsher1990, What I have said is facts. it is you making weak assertions.

Live in your bollywood fantasies. India would never survive 100+ nuclear missile strike by Pakistan. lol.
 
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Exactly, targeting them is a waste, but the damage to the infrastructure they depend on will have been destroyed and they will have to seek out on foot resources to keep living. After an EMP attack the food distribution, water distributions, and electricity distribution will have suffered considerable damage. Casualties are not as a result of the intial attack, but over the weeks and months afterwards. The destruction to the infrastructure caused by Hurricane Mary in Puerto Rico only killed 60 or so people during the storms, but with electricity, and other resources, over 3000 people died; such as patients not getting their insulin, or food and water not reaching elderly people.

Also in mass casualty events, each person with a family will have to decide if they stay with that person or leave to save themselves. the Chaos factor has to also be taken into account, the not knowing, and loss of leadership coming from the government. This is targeted at the rich and elite and skilled work force, but the shock waves through the rest of society, will cripple the nation.
Arkadash-im!!!! India's 70% wealth is owned by 50 families!!!!! And, they control all aspects of India!!!!! So, be rest assured that they'll do their best to protect their wealth!!!!
 
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I think this is waste of money. Pakistan can't use these weapons ever even if it wants.
And if it want to keep these weapons for strategic purpose, its not a mature policy.
Bcz if India ever want to invade Pakistan in future, these can't stop the invasion.
It will only bring disaster to Pakistan.
But I think India have different plans. Slow poison.
 
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I think this is waste of money. Pakistan can't use these weapons ever even if it wants.
And if it want to keep these weapons for strategic purpose, its not a mature policy.
Bcz if India ever want to invade Pakistan in future, these can't stop the invasion.
It will only bring disaster to Pakistan.
But I think India have different plans. Slow poison.



Delusional.

India introduced nuclear weapons in South Asia, not Pakistan. Pakistan's nuclear arsenal only brought peace to the region and deterred Indian aggression. No wonder India's Cold Start now gets Cold Feet.

On a side note, I have a list of Cold Start jokes for everyone to enjoy:
  • Nasr has put Cold Start into a Deep Freeze
  • Cold Start is feeling so cold right now, she is bribing Nasr for a snuggle
  • Cold Start is struggling to work its way out a freezer bag
  • How do you know Cold Start isn't working? Its feeling "wet"
  • What is Cold Start doing in the Freezer? Waiting for the funeral procession
 
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Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal could grow from an estimated 140–150 to between 220 and 250 warheads within the next seven years if the South Asian country continues expanding its nuclear weapon programme and delivery capabilities, according to a report published on 31 August by the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists.

Authored by members of the Federation of American Scientists, the 12-page long report points out that the country is expanding its uranium-enrichment and plutonium production facilities, as well as developing several delivery systems.

“Pakistan continues to expand its nuclear arsenal with more warheads, more delivery systems, and a growing fissile materials production industry … We estimate that the country’s stockpile could … grow to 220 to 250 warheads by 2025, if the current trend continues,” states the report, pointing out that this would make Pakistan the world’s fifth-largest “nuclear weapon state”.

https://www.janes.com/article/82789...p-to-250-nuclear-warheads-by-2025-says-report
 
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Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal could grow from an estimated 140–150 to between 220 and 250 warheads within the next seven years if the South Asian country continues expanding its nuclear weapon programme and delivery capabilities, according to a report published on 31 August by the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists.

Authored by members of the Federation of American Scientists, the 12-page long report points out that the country is expanding its uranium-enrichment and plutonium production facilities, as well as developing several delivery systems.

“Pakistan continues to expand its nuclear arsenal with more warheads, more delivery systems, and a growing fissile materials production industry … We estimate that the country’s stockpile could … grow to 220 to 250 warheads by 2025, if the current trend continues,” states the report, pointing out that this would make Pakistan the world’s fifth-largest “nuclear weapon state”.

https://www.janes.com/article/82789...p-to-250-nuclear-warheads-by-2025-says-report
The more the merrier.Kudos
 
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it is not right figure our economy cannot finance such nukes production
 
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The more the merrier.Kudos
Well, we need two type of Tsunami's.

  • Billion Tree Tsunami
  • Billion Nuclear Tsunami
Unfortunately in this world the only two things are appreciated. Ability to destroy and money. So says millions of dead Iraqi's, Syrians, Libyians, homeless Palestinians and under seige Iranians.
 
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