Pakistan begins talks with US on coalition support fund

[313ghazi]

Classic diversion tactic - stay on point and answer a simple question.

Is cleaning up your house of militants/terrorists, who attack other countries from your soil, your responsibility or not?

If yes, then why do you think you are entitled to be paid for it?

Nobody from our country is fighting in foreign countries.

 

[RescueRanger]

Seriously what are you trying to convey ???

Read the post and maybe you will understand? I even used maps and everything!

 

[Tom M]

Read the post and maybe you will understand? I even used maps and everything!

Well I did and what I could understand was that the U.S indeed have an alternate route (even though costly) called NDN. So in a highly unlikely even of Pakistan blocking NATO supplies over your nation, they still have a hedge against that. And given the fact that they completely suspend CSF, they can use NDN with little loss.

So what's your point ??? What does this have to do with India ??? We are engaged in a different ball game with Afghanistan and more than U.S it is actually Iran who can change that.

 

[RescueRanger]

Well I did and what I could understand was that the U.S indeed have an alternate route (even though costly) called NDN. So in a highly unlikely even of Pakistan blocking NATO supplies over your nation, they still have a hedge against that. And given the fact that they completely suspend CSF, they can use NDN with little loss.

So what's your point ??? What does this have to do with India ??? We are engaged in a different ball game with Afghanistan and more than U.S it is actually Iran who can change that.

1. NDR Failed, read the CFR briefing on NDR
2. They suspended CSF fort GLOC not ALOC, ALOC payment was paid https://www.voanews.com/a/pakistan-...han-supplies-through-gwadar-port/4201473.html
3. Did you read the link above my post? Probably not!
4. Also the reason I mention India is you guys insert yourself in everything to do with Pakistan even on PDF. You have to go poking your noses!

 

[Tom M]

Nobody from our country is fighting in foreign countries.

Forget PDF or the members here. Try and convince the world. There is a strong reason why countless number of Individuals and entities within Pakistan are designated global terrorists and sanctioned by FATF, UN and UNSC which Ironically include your all weather friends.

Try and understand, it's neither mere Indian propaganda nor the entire world are full of fools.

 

[RescueRanger]

Forget PDF or the members here. Try and convince the world. There is a strong reason why countless number of Individuals and entities within Pakistan are designated global terrorists and sanctioned by FATF, UN and UNSC which Ironically include your all weather friends.

Try and understand, it's neither mere Indian propaganda nor the entire world are full of fools.

You worry about the extremism in India, leave us to worry about the problems in Pakistan. Protectionism, Nationalism and Xenophobia is rampant in 2018 even in the so-called bastions of liberty and freedom, so please don't make it out to be like Pakistan is some Sink Hole!

Thank you for stopping by!

Don't beat your head, just relax baby!

 

[Tom M]

1. NDR Failed, read the CFR briefing on NDR
2. They suspended CSF fort GLOC not ALOC, ALOC payment was paid https://www.voanews.com/a/pakistan-...han-supplies-through-gwadar-port/4201473.html
3. Did you read the link above my post? Probably not!
4. Also the reason I mention India is you guys insert yourself in everything to do with Pakistan even on PDF. You have to go poking your noses!

Whatever you may say. Even with the repeated claim of more than half of Afghanistan being controlled by the Taliban and just a minuscule presence of U.S service personal (less than 15K), there is a strong reason why Taliban is still unable to overrun Kabul and controlling the nation completely. But it's a Irony that people conveniently ignore this very fact.

 

[RescueRanger]

Whatever you may say.

I don't need to say anything!

https://www.weeklystandard.com/thomas-joscelyn/the-afghanistan-war-is-over-we-lost

 

[313ghazi]

Forget PDF or the members here. Try and convince the world. There is a strong reason why countless number of Individuals and entities within Pakistan are designated global terrorists and sanctioned by FATF, UN and UNSC which Ironically include your all weather friends.

Try and understand, it's neither mere Indian propaganda nor the entire world are full of fools.

We don't have to convince anyone. The biggest warlord in the world just came and sat at our feet to ask for peace in Afghanistan.

FATF and all this BS will be ironed out side by side with "peace talks".

 

[Tom M]

You worry about the extremism in India, leave us to worry about the problems in Pakistan. Protectionism, Nationalism and Xenophobia is rampant in 2018 even in the so-called bastions of liberty and freedom, so please don't make it out to be like Pakistan is some Sink Hole!

Thank you for stopping by!



Don't beat your head, just relax baby!

Well that didn't even answer what I had mentioned.

Why are so many individuals and entities designated as terrorists and sanctioned by UN and UNSC ???

Why Pakistan is in FATF grey list while only one country can to your rescue there ????

Now please don't blame me. It's not just India but the entire world out there buddy.

You are addressing a totally different thing related to nationalism, while I didn't even mentioned about that.

We don't have to convince anyone. The biggest warlord in the world just came and sat at our feet to ask for peace in Afghanistan.

FATF and all this BS will be ironed out side by side with "peace talks".

Now you are contradicting yourself. If you don't have to convince anyone, why hold talks with FATF guy's in the first place ?????

 

[RescueRanger]

Why are so many individuals and entities designated as terrorists and sanctioned by UN and UNSC ???
Why Pakistan is in FATF grey list while only one country can to your rescue there ????

Why is China facing economic sanctions, why is China despite being at the forefront of research and industry facing sanctions for human rights violations? The UNSC/UNHCR and the FATF are sticks used by a handful to beat the many! People are NOT BLIND

The UN is impotent and limp!

 

[Tom M]

I don't need to say anything!

https://www.weeklystandard.com/thomas-joscelyn/the-afghanistan-war-is-over-we-lost

Indeed, while they achieved all their stated objectives a decade back. LOL

Why is China facing economic sanctions, why is China despite being at the forefront of research and industry facing sanctions for human rights violations? The UNSC/UNHCR and the FATF are sticks used by a handful to beat the many! People are NOT BLIND

The UN is impotent and limp!

Agreed UN is wrong, you are right. Always.

But remember there is no smoke without any fire, anywhere.

 

[RescueRanger]

Indeed, while they achieved all their stated objectives a decade back. LOL

To quote Stanley A. McChrystal from his book:
We could do good things in Afghanistan for the next 100 years and fail.

Agreed UN is wrong, you are right. Always.

Is that what I said?

 

[313ghazi]

Well that didn't even answer what I had mentioned.

Why are so many individuals and entities designated as terrorists and sanctioned by UN and UNSC ???

Why Pakistan is in FATF grey list while only one country can to your rescue there ????

Now please don't blame me. It's not just India but the entire world out there buddy.

You are addressing a totally different thing related to nationalism, while I didn't even mentioned about that.



Now you are contradicting yourself. If you don't have to convince anyone, why hold talks with FATF guy's in the first place ?????

It's good to pick your battles. A lot of points on FATF go hand in hand with our national interest. If we close down money laundering channels and better regulate banks, as part of the process we catch our own corrupt and stop the flow of wealth outside of the country. Points which dictate against our national interest, will be ignored or whitewashed over.

When we have more strength, we will be less fussy about avoid battles. You've heard the saying though - every dog has it's day. In Afghanistan it's beginning to look like, every day is our day.

FATF and other UN BS is just an extension of the white mans imperialist agenda. If we grab all the opportunities we have by the balls, in 50 years time we'll have the same luxury of picking and choosing "international" law that Russia, China and Israel have.

 

[Tom M]

To quote Stanley A. McChrystal from his book:
We could do good things in Afghanistan for the next 100 years and fail.

Even after all these tons of opinion pieces, articles, discussions, resurgent Taliban etc. With less than 15000 soldiers U.S.A is still there. And everyone else around the world including me and you re sitting back and talking rather speculating about the imminent U.S failure in Afghanistan for the past 17 years. That's what I'm able to see.

Is that what I said?

Well that is what I could infer. I still believe there won't be any smoke without any fire.

It's good to pick your battles. A lot of points on FATF go hand in hand with our national interest. If we close down money laundering channels and better regulate banks, as part of the process we catch our own corrupt and stop the flow of wealth outside of the country. Points which dictate against our national interest, will be ignored or whitewashed over.

When we have more strength, we will be less fussy about avoid battles. You've heard the saying though - every dog has it's day. In Afghanistan it's beginning to look like, every day is our day.

FATF and other UN BS is just an extension of the white mans imperialist agenda. If we grab all the opportunities we have by the balls, in 50 years time we'll have the same luxury of picking and choosing "international" law that Russia, China and Israel have.

Well then all the very best.