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9 AW 129 from Italy, which makes sense because of the commonality to T129:
Turkey To Buy 9 European A129 Attack Helicopters - Defense News
That's exaclty what I said too, I only said that it is doubtful that Turkey can give licence production rights to foreign customers, without the approval of Italy, because at the end it is still an Italian developed helicopter.
Turkey can sale T129 to export customers, but will produce all parts in Turkey, that's why it's a great deal for Turkey.
This is the excerpt that Jigs posted:
Can you explain where it says anything regarding licences for 3rd countries?
The fuselage is bigger to house the new engines, but the design of the helicopter didn't change, only the integrated techs and weapons.
Compare it to the WAH Apache that AW produces, it also has different engines, weapons and techs, but is still only a version of the Apache, not a new helicopter. The advantage that Turkey has, is the licence production and sale rights, that the US would never provide.
It's undeniable a good development for Turkey, but it still is a version of the AW129 and that's why licences to 3rd countries will only possible with Italian approval.
There are somthing that I will always tell but You will never understand cause of some politic and nationalistic reasons with T-129 Atak program. I have posted many source proving what I have told in previous pages but You are already giving me WAH Apache example to explain the T-129 Atak program...
It is true that WAH Apache is the licence built version of Apache helicopters because There is an Apache helicopter that is being produced by USA. All intellectual and property rights of both WAH and Apache helicopters are belongs to USA. Italy can not do, export,give licence anywhere without USA approval.
but T-129 is completely different story than what I have told about WaH Apache above. TAI has many responsibilities for T-129 Atak heicopter as Owner of T-129 Atak program. There is not any other institue in world which will produce the parts of T-129 (TAI workshare) different than TAI. I mean TAI is the sole producer of fuselage for T-129 but Agusta is not for WAH.
That's why TAI shall be the sole source for its work share under the ATAK program for all potential future world wide sales of the T129 ATAK Helicopter.
Turkey will be responsible for international marketing and sales of the design, and industry sources say several countries are already evaluating the product, including Jordan and Pakistan.
ATAK team outlines progress of Turkey's T129 project, after first flight success
With the Collaboration Agreement signed with AgustaWestland, TAI shall have;
· Intellectual property rights of the new configuration of the helicopter
· Sole sourcing rights in the world for the fuselage, including Final Assembly and Flight Operations
· Sales rights for the whole world excluding Italy and England
TAİ will also hold the copyright of the new helicopters (T-129) while becoming the sole source in the world for the production of their bodies, including final assembly and flight procedures, said the TAİ statement.
http://news.pseka.net/index.php?module=article&id=7489
According to " Sole source " Words. What does it mean for you ? Agusta is the sole source for WAH Apache helicopters around the world ? No... but TAI is sole responsible institue for producing-exporting all fuselage, ceritication, tests and education for Turkey and the countries locating all around the World excluding Italy and England because Eng. and Italy is the owner orf Agusta-Westland...
I do not suppose you will understand what I have told above but At least, Try to read the official sources I have posted above...
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