Pakistan Army's T-129 ATAK Helicopter Deal | Updates & Discussions.

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T-129 in Pakistan May 2016

 

[HRK]

According to this website http://www.kokpit.aero/tfx-2030-yerli-motor which quotes TAI general manager

"We can sell ATAK helicopters under control, we will sell them to Pakistan in the coming months," Kotil said.

what does he mean by this ....??

 

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what does he mean by this ....??

He was being questioned on rumours of US denying engine sales to Pakistan. He says Turkey has control over who they export to, not third tier providers who provide engines.

Honeywell signed a contract to provide engines for Turkey's general purpose helicopters that's well over 3-500 helicopters to be equipped with T800 engines, Turkey is also developing an engine - so either they play ball or they will eventually be removed from Turkish market being replaced with Turkish gas turbine engine currently in development. Threats work both ways..

 

[mingle]

He was being questioned on rumours of US denying engine sales to Pakistan. He says Turkey has control over who they export to, not third tier providers who provide engines.

Honeywell signed a contract to provide engines for Turkey's general purpose helicopters that's well over 3-500 helicopters to be equipped with T800 engines, Turkey is also developing an engine - so either they play ball or they will eventually be removed from Turkish market being replaced with Turkish gas turbine engine currently in development. Threats work both ways..

I dont think engine will be issue we using Honeywell engines in K8 P trainers .Main issue is finance for Pak if turky offer a flexible line of credit that what that Gentalman pointing out if that sought out 200% Pak will buy Helis reason it passed all the test what been pitched againest her in Pakistan .

 

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UMTAS - Long Range Anti Tank missile still being qualified for T-129. With 10kg warhead, it is one of the highest yield anti-tank missile.

 

[mrrehan]

TAI general director Muharrem Dortkasli says Pakistan and Jordan are already Evaluating T-129 ATAK.

News source:

DATE:01/10/09
SOURCE:Flight International
ATAK team outlines progress of Turkey's T129 project, after first flight success
By Luca Peruzzi

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Programme officials from the ATAK development team have provided further details of Turkey's T129 attack helicopter programme, as its first prototype has completed its debut flight.

Conducted at AgustaWestland's Vergiate facility in Italy on 28 September, the milestone event involved aircraft P1, the first of five prototypes to be produced under the Turkish Aerospace Industries-led programme.

Powered by LHTEC T800A-4 engines, the aircraft is one of three T129s to be built in a basic configuration, with the others to enter final assembly at Vergiate in March and July 2010, respectively.

Kits for the programme's two so-called Turkey Unique Configuration prototypes will be delivered to TAI in April and August 2010. These production-standard airframes will undergo assembly, integration, test and trials in Turkey.

Critical design reviews for both aircraft versions will be concluded in the second quarter of next year, and all five prototypes should fly by mid-2011. "The joint programme is on time, cost and scheduled programme achievements," says AgustaWestland chief executive Giuseppe Orsi.

Turkey has ordered 50 production T129s and has options on another 41. The aircraft will be equipped with Turkish-made systems including electronics, forward-looking infrared sensor, cockpit avionics and mission computer from Aselsan, and weapon systems from Roketsan.

TAI general director Muharrem Dortkasli says the first T129 ATAK will be handed over to the Turkish armed forces in the third quarter of 2013. Turkey will be responsible for international marketing and sales of the design, and industry sources say several countries are already evaluating the product, including Jordan and Pakistan.

Source link:ATAK team outlines progress of Turkey's T129 project, after first flight success
Turkey Presses Ahead with its Attack Helicopter Project - The Jamestown Foundation

" The helicopter program is seen as one of the flagship projects for Turkey's flourishing defense industry, as it will involve not only the transfer of advanced technology, but also the integration of various domestically developed weapons and communications systems. Moreover, since Turkey's TAI will have the exclusive rights to market and sell the final product worldwide, the project is particularly attractive for Turkey. Through this and other ambitious national weapons programs, it aims to emerge as a major player in the global arms industry. Pakistan, Malaysia, the United Arab Emirates and Jordan have reportedly expressed their interest in purchasing the T-129 (Anadolu Ajansi, September 25). "





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Black Blood.

http://quwa.org/2017/02/12/discussion-pakistans-attack-helicopter-options/

With everything under consideration I think we only can fight with Z-10 because of availability. But yes we can co-develop the platform to be more heavy weight. Mean while some Mi-28NE to fulfill the gap along with existing AH-1Z. This is what we can do without even Russian let take advantage of our requirements. Pakistan is quite late announcing projects like KAMRA AVIATION CITY. But it also can help us on Army aviation Platforms as well in future.

 

[cabatli_53]

UMTAS - Long Range Anti Tank missile still being qualified for T-129. With 10kg warhead, it is one of the highest yield anti-tank missile.

Mizrak-U trials on T-129 Atak succesfully completed...

 

[Path-Finder]

Mizrak-U trials on T-129 Atak succesfully completed...

Awesome! I saw some pics where a Cobra was being tested with opto-electronics and other avionics in a bid to modernise it. is that still happening or not?

 

[mustafa erkan]

Awesome! I saw some pics where a Cobra was being tested with opto-electronics and other avionics in a bid to modernise it. is that still happening or not?

It was for modernisation tender of Bahrain's cobras.

 

[Zarvan]

 

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[cabatli_53]

20. Atak delivered to TLF. 17 more to come in this year.

The show of strength of 20th Atak B-1...

https://twitter.com/x/status/851006278914715648

New 3rd generation lighter and more capable flir CATS will replace 2nd generation 300T on T-129 Atak.

 

[Zarvan]

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

This chopper with out doubt can fill the needs for Pakistan Aviation sector, Pakistan really has to focus on this wonderful plateform , sufficient quantity and latest Tech and unlimited Ammo which I am sure we can order and train more often with live Ammo


Z-10 / T-129 offer a nice 1/2 punch to have and build the aviation fleet around

Puma Local Manufacturing deal would solve our long term transport needs

The speed for Z-10 and T129 are sufficient for our needs and the range is also quite appropriate.

From weight carrying ability (Weapons) it seemz the Z-10 has some advantage and the T-129 is marginally lighter in that sector.

However the two platform offers a ideal combination to diversify the Aviation fleet


While PUMA offers a nice loal production for Transport Level chopper

Ideal Setup Long Term

Pakistan Helicopter Factory ​

100--Z10 (Licenced Serial Production)
50----T129 (Licenced Serial Production)
50----PUMA (Serial Production)
50----AgustaWestland AW139 (On Going Order)

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Short Term Benefits
3 to 12----Mi-35 see how things evolve
18 ----Super Cobra (Special Ops , over priced limited ammo, delays delays )
30 ----Cobra (Pending retirement bit outdated)

 

[mustafa erkan]

From the 39 th helicopter t-129 will have some design changes over the hull of the helicopter.
TAI is working over the new design. The lenght of the helicopter will increase and weight of the Electronics and EO will reduce. Projection is %50 increase of armament capacity.

From weight carrying ability (Weapons) it seemz the Z-10 has some advantage and the T-129 is marginally lighter in that sector.