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Wing Commander Nouman Ali Khan looks like he commands the new No.29 Aggressors, and I believe it provided the F16 element in the Feb 27 shootdown.
Either Sqd Ldr Hassan Siddiqi was a Thunder Driver at WVR or he was also alongwith the Aggressors on F16. That takes us closer to what may have happened.
JF17s from the CCS or TailChoppers involved in luring in the IAF CAP after strikes on 6 targets, deployed chaff and dropped altitude, thus IAF CAP lost it's signatures and got confused. Ripetime.
Meanwhile the F16 CAP with WgCdr Noman and wingman SqdLdr Hassan await the IAF jets, both locking on and taking shots.
Sqd Ldr Hassan getting confirmed kill with BVR AMRAAM on WgCdr Abhi who led the IAF team, and his wingman breaks away towards Riasi and WgCdr Noman assumes a probable kill.
It's unclear whether he had locked onto the 2nd MiG, or one of the Su30s who were approaching from Udhampur axis.
The latter seems more possible as IAF accepted it's Su30s were targetted, though their claim of 4-5 AMRAAMs and jamming the missiles is obvious BS as they only found one's remains. The most likely cause of evasion is that it was shot at the edge of it's range, where BVRs get unreliable.
WgCdr Abhi states in a video that he was looking for his target when our AF shot him down. This implies that at WVR the JF17s who lured the MiGs into the trap had employed evasive tactics, which confused Abhi as he lost their signature.
Most BVR kills come without warning for the victim, before they know it the missile hits them, a AIM120 quality.
Any inputs would be appreciated.
Either Sqd Ldr Hassan Siddiqi was a Thunder Driver at WVR or he was also alongwith the Aggressors on F16. That takes us closer to what may have happened.
JF17s from the CCS or TailChoppers involved in luring in the IAF CAP after strikes on 6 targets, deployed chaff and dropped altitude, thus IAF CAP lost it's signatures and got confused. Ripetime.
Meanwhile the F16 CAP with WgCdr Noman and wingman SqdLdr Hassan await the IAF jets, both locking on and taking shots.
Sqd Ldr Hassan getting confirmed kill with BVR AMRAAM on WgCdr Abhi who led the IAF team, and his wingman breaks away towards Riasi and WgCdr Noman assumes a probable kill.
It's unclear whether he had locked onto the 2nd MiG, or one of the Su30s who were approaching from Udhampur axis.
The latter seems more possible as IAF accepted it's Su30s were targetted, though their claim of 4-5 AMRAAMs and jamming the missiles is obvious BS as they only found one's remains. The most likely cause of evasion is that it was shot at the edge of it's range, where BVRs get unreliable.
WgCdr Abhi states in a video that he was looking for his target when our AF shot him down. This implies that at WVR the JF17s who lured the MiGs into the trap had employed evasive tactics, which confused Abhi as he lost their signature.
Most BVR kills come without warning for the victim, before they know it the missile hits them, a AIM120 quality.
Any inputs would be appreciated.