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Wing Commander Nouman Ali Khan looks like he commands the new No.29 Aggressors, and I believe it provided the F16 element in the Feb 27 shootdown.

Either Sqd Ldr Hassan Siddiqi was a Thunder Driver at WVR or he was also alongwith the Aggressors on F16. That takes us closer to what may have happened.

JF17s from the CCS or TailChoppers involved in luring in the IAF CAP after strikes on 6 targets, deployed chaff and dropped altitude, thus IAF CAP lost it's signatures and got confused. Ripetime.

Meanwhile the F16 CAP with WgCdr Noman and wingman SqdLdr Hassan await the IAF jets, both locking on and taking shots.

Sqd Ldr Hassan getting confirmed kill with BVR AMRAAM on WgCdr Abhi who led the IAF team, and his wingman breaks away towards Riasi and WgCdr Noman assumes a probable kill.
It's unclear whether he had locked onto the 2nd MiG, or one of the Su30s who were approaching from Udhampur axis.
The latter seems more possible as IAF accepted it's Su30s were targetted, though their claim of 4-5 AMRAAMs and jamming the missiles is obvious BS as they only found one's remains. The most likely cause of evasion is that it was shot at the edge of it's range, where BVRs get unreliable.

WgCdr Abhi states in a video that he was looking for his target when our AF shot him down. This implies that at WVR the JF17s who lured the MiGs into the trap had employed evasive tactics, which confused Abhi as he lost their signature.
Most BVR kills come without warning for the victim, before they know it the missile hits them, a AIM120 quality.

Any inputs would be appreciated.
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The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) successfully test-fired an indigenously developed range smart weapon from JF-17 multi-role fighter aircraft. The JF-17 Thunder is a single-engine, multi-role combat aircraft developed jointly by the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex and the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation of China. The PAF inducted its first JF-17 squadron in February 2010. The Thunder was part of media attention during recent hostility between Pakistan and India. It was recently reported by CNN that a JF-17 fighter jet brought down an Indian warplane in Azad Jammu and Kashmir. The report contradicted Indian claims that Pakistan used F-16s to down Indian planes.
 
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Norway will house the world’s first licensed service center to service F-16 fighter jets. Lockheed Martin together with AIM Norway will jointly establish the so called „Falcon Depot“ center for the Royal Norwegian Air Force and other regional F-16 customers. AIM Norway provides maintenance, repair and modification services for fixed wing aircraft, helicopters and field equipment for the Norwegian Armed Forces. Lockheed Martin continues to grow its F-16 customer base and sees new F-16 production opportunities totaling more than 400 aircraft. There are approximately 3,000 operational F-16s in service today with 25 countries.
 
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Wing Commander Nouman Ali Khan looks like he commands the new No.29 Aggressors, and I believe it provided the F16 element in the Feb 27 shootdown.

Either Sqd Ldr Hassan Siddiqi was a Thunder Driver at WVR or he was also alongwith the Aggressors on F16. That takes us closer to what may have happened.

JF17s from the CCS or TailChoppers involved in luring in the IAF CAP after strikes on 6 targets, deployed chaff and dropped altitude, thus IAF CAP lost it's signatures and got confused. Ripetime.

Meanwhile the F16 CAP with WgCdr Noman and wingman SqdLdr Hassan await the IAF jets, both locking on and taking shots.

Sqd Ldr Hassan getting confirmed kill with BVR AMRAAM on WgCdr Abhi who led the IAF team, and his wingman breaks away towards Riasi and WgCdr Noman assumes a probable kill.
It's unclear whether he had locked onto the 2nd MiG, or one of the Su30s who were approaching from Udhampur axis.
The latter seems more possible as IAF accepted it's Su30s were targetted, though their claim of 4-5 AMRAAMs and jamming the missiles is obvious BS as they only found one's remains. The most likely cause of evasion is that it was shot at the edge of it's range, where BVRs get unreliable.

WgCdr Abhi states in a video that he was looking for his target when our AF shot him down. This implies that at WVR the JF17s who lured the MiGs into the trap had employed evasive tactics, which confused Abhi as he lost their signature.
Most BVR kills come without warning for the victim, before they know it the missile hits them, a AIM120 quality.

Any inputs would be appreciated. View attachment 545939

JF-17 of HS took down M21 using PL-5
NA F-16 took MKI using AIM-120
 
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The latest news suggested that one PAF JF-17 Block II shot down an IAF Mig-21Bison over Kashmir on February 27, 2019, marking its first kill in combat. The latest image (March 2019) indicated that JF-17Block II has been carrying the new PL-15Elong range AAM for testing.
- Last Updated 3/14/18
 
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Pakistan has now developed a combat version of Super Mushak. The aircraft has been equipped with anti-tank missiles.

Buraq laser guided missiles will also be installed in this aircraft. The targeting capacity has further been improved in this plane. The aircraft will be used for combat purposes for the first time.
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Pakistan unveils yet another military combat aircraft equipped with laser guided and anti tank missiles
19 Mar, 2019




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ISLAMABAD - Pakistan has prepared another military aircraft to use for war purposes after the success of its JF-17 Thunder.

According to details, Pakistan Aeronautical Complex has prepared the latest version of Super Mushak aircrafts. The aircraft will be used for training purposes.


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After the JF-17 Thunder combat aircraft, Pakistan has now developed a fighter version of Super Mushak. The aircraft has been equipped with anti-tank missiles. Buraq laser guided missiles will also be installed in this aircraft. The targeting capacity has further been improved in this plane. The aircraft will be used for combat purposes for the first time.

Since this plane has lower operational cost, it can especially be used in operations against terrorists. Pakistan had earlier achieved a great success by experimenting log-range indigenously developed smart missile from JF-17 Thunder which made the country's defence impregnable and reduced the dependency on other countries.

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The experiment was a great milestone for the country as the weapon has been developed, integrated and qualified solely through indigenous efforts of Pakistani scientists and engineers. The successful trial provided JF-17 Thunder a very potent and assured day and night capability to engage in a variety of targets with pinpoint accuracy.
 
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for training purpose only, this thing won't survive against a rickshaw, does it even have a radar


Pakistan has now developed a combat version of Super Mushak. The aircraft has been equipped with anti-tank missiles.

Buraq laser guided missiles will also be installed in this aircraft. The targeting capacity has further been improved in this plane. The aircraft will be used for combat purposes for the first time.
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for training purpose only, this thing won't survive against a rickshaw, does it even have a radar

If it has weapon and it has been integrated I guess it has other relevant upgrades required to operate that weapon.

Or, it can be used against helis and UCAVs.
not just that but for CAS. Have these armed with laser weapon would mean PAF will not have to use main assets for CAS.

Laser guided BURQ will come real handy against enemy tanks or artillery or other formation.
 
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