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[Shabi1]

Hello all
We use our F-7pgs as interceptor ,,,,,,,,, What if we replace them with EFT t-3 ( We can use them as interceptor ) …….. F-7pgs still have 5+ years life in them ……. In these 5 years PAF can do needful (money + negotiations +contract )……
What you all think ……

What we've learned from the current scenario is weapon matters more than launch platform. F-7PGs to be replaced by block-3 equipped with Pl-10 and Pl-15 which is equivalent of meteor missile, they would be better suited for airsuperiority. So I would say EFT not needed.

 

[Zubear Ali]

Is there truth in this news of China supplying pl-15 for use with jf-17 block 2 as as reported by paffalcons.com

 

[Maxpane]

Is there truth in this news of China supplying pl-15 for use with jf-17 block 2 as as reported by paffalcons.com

its all on fb

 

[Ultima Thule]

its all on fb

I think PL-15 will come with BLK-3 Current radar on BLK-2 has not much range to guide PL-15 KLJ-7V2 has a range of 130 Km and PL-15 have a range of 150-200 KM , rthiose just speculations and rumors are @Maxpane

 

[Maxpane]

Is there truth in this news of China supplying pl-15 for use with jf-17 block 2 as as reported by paffalcons.com

its all on fb

I think PL-15 will come with BLK-3 Current radar on BLK-2 has not much range to guide PL-15 KLJ-7V2 has a range of 130 Km and PL-15 have a range of 150-200 KM , rthiose just speculations and rumors are @Maxpane

got it sir

 

[Readerdefence]

I think PL-15 will come with BLK-3 Current radar on BLK-2 has not much range to guide PL-15 KLJ-7V2 has a range of 130 Km and PL-15 have a range of 150-200 KM , rthiose just speculations and rumors are @Maxpane

Hi it can be guided by awacs for further guidance towards target
Thank you

 

[Ultima Thule]

Hi it can be guided by awacs for further guidance towards target
Thank you

Yes, it possible according to @gambit but might be this capability for US/Russian/Chinese AWACS but definitely our erieye or ZDK-3 have not this capability @Readerdefence

 

[Readerdefence]

Yes, it possible according to @gambit but might be this capability for US/Russian/Chinese AWACS but definitely our erieye or ZDK-3 have not this capability @Readerdefence

Hi ok I thought we can use this through link-17 any info on it
Thank you

 

[fatman17]

JF-17 Block 3 jet expected to be fitted with active electronically scanned array radar
By Liu Xuanzun Source:Global Times Published: 2019/3/11

Development of JF-17 Block 3 jet underway

A JF-17 fighter jet attached to the Pakistan Air Force flies towards the designated airspace during an air-to-ground offensive operation drill conducted by two Chinese JH-7 fighter bombers and two Pakistani JF-17 fighter jets on Sept. 20, 2017, which is part of the "Shaheen VI " joint training exercise launched by the air forces of China and Pakistan on Sept. 8 and scheduled to conclude on Sept. 27, 2017. Photo: eng.chinamil.com.

 

[araz]

JF-17 Block 3 jet expected to be fitted with active electronically scanned array radar
By Liu Xuanzun Source:Global Times Published: 2019/3/11

Development of JF-17 Block 3 jet underway

A JF-17 fighter jet attached to the Pakistan Air Force flies towards the designated airspace during an air-to-ground offensive operation drill conducted by two Chinese JH-7 fighter bombers and two Pakistani JF-17 fighter jets on Sept. 20, 2017, which is part of the "Shaheen VI " joint training exercise launched by the air forces of China and Pakistan on Sept. 8 and scheduled to conclude on Sept. 27, 2017. Photo: eng.chinamil.com.View attachment 545751

Do you think the full article can be posted here or if not salient features please

 

[hassan1]

 

[kursed]

The development and production of the JF-17 Block 3 are underway, said Yang Wei, a Chinese legislator and chief designer of the China-Pakistan co-developed fighter jet, as he aims to enhance the jet's informatized warfare capability and weapons.

"All related work is being carried out," said Yang at a Thursday press conference featuring Chinese legislators and political advisers in aviation, China Aviation News reported Friday.

The third block will see the JF-17's informatized warfare capability and weapons upgraded, Yang said.

Wei Dongxu, a Beijing-based military analyst, told the Global Times on Monday that the JF-17 Block 3 is expected to be fitted with an active electronically scanned array radar, which can gather more information in combat, enabling the fighter jet to engage from a farther range and attack multiple targets at the same time. A helmet-mounted display and sight system could also allow pilots to aim whatever he sees.

Pakistan, the main user of the JF-17, could further share information between the fighter and other platforms, taking advantage of the whole combat system to effectively defend against strong opponents like India, Wei said.

With the new upgrade, Wei expects the JF-17 Block 3 to match an improved version of the F-16 fighter jet.

Yang said that the development and batch production for the JF-17 Block 3 are going simultaneously, thanks to the broad experience.

Wei said this probably means while the upgrades like the new AESA radar are still in development, the airframe, which remains roughly the same, can be manufactured without waiting.

Once new developments are complete, they can be fitted on the airframe very fast, ensuring a quick delivery time, Wei said.

The JF-17, or the FC-1, is a single-engine multi-role light fighter jet jointly developed by China and Pakistan for export, according to the website of the Aviation Industry Corporation of China.

When asked about which countries have inquired about the JF-17 Block 3, Yang said "A lot of countries have come to buy. You sign [a contract for the JF-17], you benefit."

The JF-17 is often described by its manufacturer and military observers as an advanced but also cost-effective fighter. It is currently contending with India's Tejas and South Korea's FA-50 in Malaysia's new fighter jet purchase plan, with the JF-17 being the most competitive option, Wei said.

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1141710.shtml

 

[Tank131]

Yes, it possible according to @gambit but might be this capability for US/Russian/Chinese AWACS but definitely our erieye or ZDK-3 have not this capability @Readerdefence

Thats not entirely true. This capability was actually mastered by SAAB and it is a well known functionality of Gripen/Erieye combo where the entire sqd of gripen can fly radar off under the guidance of erieye and it can put the targeting algorithms for missiles carried by gripen. Can also be done with just the lead fighter having radar on with the others flying with radars off. I am certain F-16 amd Erieyes can do the same. Im not sure about JF-17 and ZDK-03 but my suspicion is it can.

 

[Fieldmarshal]

Thats not entirely true. This capability was actually mastered by SAAB and it is a well known functionality of Gripen/Erieye combo where the entire sqd of gripen can fly radar off under the guidance of erieye and it can put the targeting algorithms for missiles carried by gripen. Can also be done with just the lead fighter having radar on with the others flying with radars off. I am certain F-16 amd Erieyes can do the same. Im not sure about JF-17 and ZDK-03 but my suspicion is it can.

Thats not entirely true. This capability was actually mastered by SAAB and it is a well known functionality of Gripen/Erieye combo where the entire sqd of gripen can fly radar off under the guidance of erieye and it can put the targeting algorithms for missiles carried by gripen. Can also be done with just the lead fighter having radar on with the others flying with radars off. I am certain F-16 amd Erieyes can do the same. Im not sure about JF-17 and ZDK-03 but my suspicion is it can.

they tried it on the 26th n it almost worked n it surely would have worked had our boys followed them into indian territory, only the lead ac got a shot off .....the indians only found out about the presence of our boys after they saw the flashes off our missiles

 

[MastanKhan]

Thats not entirely true. This capability was actually mastered by SAAB and it is a well known functionality of Gripen/Erieye combo where the entire sqd of gripen can fly radar off under the guidance of erieye and it can put the targeting algorithms for missiles carried by gripen. Can also be done with just the lead fighter having radar on with the others flying with radars off. I am certain F-16 amd Erieyes can do the same. Im not sure about JF-17 and ZDK-03 but my suspicion is it can.

Hi,

How about the awacs locking and launching BVR missiles from the aircraft---and the aircraft flying silent flying stealth---.

What we've learned from the current scenario is weapon matters more than launch platform. F-7PGs to be replaced by block-3 equipped with Pl-10 and Pl-15 which is equivalent of meteor missile, they would be better suited for airsuperiority. So I would say EFT not needed.

Hi,

Most of you learnt---who did not want to---.

But some of us were telling the most of you for years---that the weapons matter and not the launch platform---EW suite matters---.

We were banging our heads against skulls thick as coconuts shells---.