Pak willing to give up claim on Kashmir: Musharraf

[Bull]

Integral part?
Its a disputed territory claimed to be integral part by both sides.
People and Pakistan and Kashmir don't recognise the illegal signing of Instrument of Accession by Hari Singh.

What has pakistani got to do with what the ruler of a princely state did.If you love the pople,be our guest take them all,we can give you a few more as a bonus.We have plenty out there u see!!!:wink:

 

[Neo]

If you love the pople,be our guest take them all,we can give you a few more as a bonus.We have plenty out there u see!!!:wink:

I'm sure Kashmiri's on your side will be thrilled to read this post.
I rest my case.

 

[Srirangan]

"Pak willing to give up claim on Kashmir if India does the same"

"Pak willing to sign CTBT/NPT if India does the same"

"Pak wants Nuclear deal because India got the same"

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Gee! I thought you guys wanted Azaadi from us! What's the point if you mimic our policies!

 

[Spring Onion]

What has pakistani got to do with what the ruler of a princely state did.If you love the pople,be our guest take them all,we can give you a few more as a bonus.We have plenty out there u see!!!:wink:

Indeed india only wants Kashmir for generating revenue through tourisim .nothing to do with Kashmiris .

 

[vnomad]

Indeed india only wants Kashmir for generating revenue through tourisim .nothing to do with Kashmiris .

Your economics isn't very strong is it Jana. Please explain how India gains revenues from tourism. Its the local tourism industry which gains, not the central government.

 

[Spring Onion]

And who will collect that revenue?
The common Kashmiris or the puppet government ?

Bull said India is willing to shun kashmiris to Pakistan

 

[vnomad]

And who will collect that revenue?
The common Kashmiris or the puppet government ?

Ordinary Kashmiris ofcourse. As for puppet government, Pakistan Administered Kashmir has much less to brag about. Elections in J&K were perfectly fair and there was no rigging or interference from the centre. The Indian Election Commission is among the best in the world.

And you still haven't explained how the central government will suck the local economy dry. In the last ten years J&K has received central assistance of Rs 43,000 crore that comes out to be about $10 billion. Tourism isn't the gold mine you think it is. Horticulture not tourism is the mainstay of the J&K economy.

Bull said India is willing to shun kashmiris to Pakistan

Please take it up with Bull.

 

[Spring Onion]

Ordinary Kashmiris ofcourse. As for puppet government, Pakistan Administered Kashmir has much less to brag about. Elections in J&K were perfectly fair and there was no rigging or interference from the centre. The Indian Election Commission is among the best in the world.

And you still haven't explained how the central government will suck the local economy dry. In the last ten years J&K has received central assistance of Rs 43,000 crore that comes out to be about $10 billion. Tourism isn't the gold mine you think it is. Horticulture not tourism is the mainstay of the J&K economy.

Yes whatever the mainstay it is from land of Kashmir as far the money u had shown well it has nothing to do with development of the Kashmiris in IHK.
Polls in Indian Held Kashmir are already rigged as there are no local Kashmiri parties part of the government there.
And few votes polled are also at gun points when Indian Soldiers drag people outo their homes to cast vote.

Only puppets like Abudullah and sons and they do not in any way represent Kashmiris.

Please take it up with Bull.

Yes i was replying to him not you but jumped in

 

[Srirangan]

Indeed india only wants Kashmir for generating revenue through tourisim .nothing to do with Kashmiris .

Oh c'mon!!! If you wanna accuse India, at least accuse us for a nicer thing!

Say water, listening space into Central Asia, China. Tourism is just so lame!

 

[vnomad]

Yes whatever the mainstay it is from land of Kashmir as far the money u had shown well it has nothing to do with development of the Kashmiris in IHK.

So you claim that people in west Kashmir have better living standards than those in east Kashmir. Please back up that claim with facts. Only 3.5 per cent of Kashmir's population was below the poverty line in 1999-2000. The national average was as high as 26.1 per cent.

Polls in Indian Held Kashmir are already rigged as there are no local Kashmiri parties part of the government there.

Everybody in government is a Kashmiri.

And few votes polled are also at gun points when Indian Soldiers drag people outo their homes to cast vote.

Why then did militant groups like the LeT and HuM threaten to shoot anybody who voted if they already knew that nobody would vote?

Only puppets like Abudullah and sons and they do not in any way represent Kashmiris.

They are not in the government. They are in the opposition. But, then I didn't expect you to know that anyway.

Yes i was replying to him not you but jumped in

The hell you were. You didn't quote him. And you started the line with "Bull said" which obviously means you weren't addressing him.

 

[Lahori paa jee]

Ayaz Amir's latest article in Dawn reflects my views and nothing but truth

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After a few lost wars and many strategic blunders, Kashmir may look like a lost cause but why negate the position we have held for the last fiftyeight years? We may not be able to do much for the people of Kashmir and indeed if they want a change in the status quo, the impulse and the effort for that should come from them. But at the same time, we have no right to betray them or say and do things damaging to their cause and playing to India’s advantage.

If a civilian leader had said a tenth of what Musharraf has said on Kashmir, there would have been dark mutterings in Pakistan’s cantonments while in Army Headquarters, now more a centre of politics than defence or war, plans would be in place for another takeover.

Even retired generals, whose courage comes into its own only when a civilian leader is in command, would have joined in the outcry. But over this tribe at the moment rules the calm and quiet of the graveyard.

There is bearded hypocrisy and there is uniformed hypocrisy and it is hard to decide which has had the more serious consequences.

http://www.dawn.com/weekly/ayaz/ayaz.htm

 

[Bull]

Indeed india only wants Kashmir for generating revenue through tourisim .nothing to do with Kashmiris .

Oh thats one more of our hidden agenda uncovered, sigh!

 

[Bull]

Bull said India is willing to shun kashmiris to Pakistan

bull said "Bull is willing to give up the people" and never said thats the GOI pt of view.

 

[Bull]

Yes whatever the mainstay it is from land of Kashmir as far the money u had shown well it has nothing to do with development of the Kashmiris in IHK.

Kashmiris in India are much better off than the ones in Pakistan,if otherwise prove it.

Polls in Indian Held Kashmir are already rigged as there are no local Kashmiri parties part of the government there.

Well whats the source of this info that you are sharing with us?

And few votes polled are also at gun points when Indian Soldiers drag people outo their homes to cast vote.

journalist arnt you?is this all what you know regarding kashmir?Very commendable.

 

[Srirangan]

Kashmiris in India are much better off than the ones in Pakistan,if otherwise prove it.

I'd go a step further. Kashmiri's enjoy more rights than even the basic Pakistani citizen who is no more than a slave to the Army's wishes.