Pak officials, politicians, businessmen held accounts in Switzerland

[Chak Bamu]

He made all that up but believes London flats were bought via money sent on camel backs.

These are treacherous people.

Everyone knows here the history of American funding Afghan mujahideen and ISI role in backing mujahideen at that time.

Dude, my Father-in-Law (may he rest in peace) was an important figure in all this. He was very honest. I wish I could say the same for others. Your reference to london flats is nothing but whataboutery for deflection. Its not going to answer questions about General Akhtar Abdur Rehman or General Zahid Ali Akbar Khan. So I suggest you focus on the subject.

Also, grow a pair and talk directly to me.

 

[Jungibaaz]

Nice, but who's actually surprised? Pakistan is the victim of elite capture, clientelist politics, dysfunctional by design institutions, and no-one, not even the elite who built the state for their benefit trust the system. So whether you earn justly or unjustly, you take the cash and stash it abroad.

Corruption is just one problem, it's part of a much wider set of issues we face.

 

[Mentee]

we know these same judges approved Nawaz Sharif's blood reports

Approved by licensia doctors, submitted to the judges . Or they would have trusted an engineer with the medical examinations?

 

[Chak Bamu]

Just a planned leak , to implant an idea in people's head that Pakistan Army personnel are corrupt

(Installation of idea or concept , in your mind that there is corruption)



1- Leak implies corruption in Army


2- Sudden rise in Violent Actions against Journalist in Pakistan just another
move to further put pressure on Army of Pakistan

Target : Special Police or Special Investigation Units

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a) Recent cases of violence against Iqraq ul Hassan
(Generally pro Government guy was beaten)
Incident happened in Sindh , and well anything which happens in
Sindh is expected it is PPP area

b) Second incident , a Anti Government Guy , who is self proclaimed journalist , went on TV and made horrific claims , of immorality against a popular , well respected PTI and Government of Pakistan official, based on a book written by a foreigner

In this case the secret service , rightly went to investigate the issue , and the man opened fire on officials or used the weapon to attack the secret service / or investigation unit and waved his gun around like Rambo

• Now this guy is by no means a sane person

But yet again the story was flipped in media , and this guy is being made into a victim , downplaying the actual story which happened against Iqrar Ul Hassan in Sindh

Jung News paper who is always a instigator , today published article claiming the "Judge" of Pakistan Athar guy , scolded the officials who went to investigate and claimed , they have no right to investigate , even when their was a formal complain filed against this guy from the person who faced defamation on live tv by this false journalist acquisitions

The Case is being constructed

• Secret Service or Special investigative Branch randomly commits kidnappings and torture

The ultimate goal is to build pressure on Pakistan Army to allow

Develop a sense of "insecurity" in institute , so that it would start considering , giving a soft hand to the corrupt elements in Pakistan such as PPP or PML

• Develop a ridge between Imran Khan and Army
• Enforce Army to not interfere in corruption tactics used by PML and PPP
• The tactics possible being deployed obvious may include ECP and some judges of court, we know these same judges approved Nawaz Sharif's blood reports

Similar pressure tactic was also used against Musharraf , when he was in civilian role where he was forced to step down eventually

Total rubbish. Just see how this thing unfolds in the courts. The FIA has been taken to cleaners by judges for forcible entry without a warrant. Mohsin Baig is an abhorrent character. He did favors to Mushy when dealing with Dr. Shazia Rape case. So don't tell me that he is a so-called journalist. He is a journalist alright; but you either don't know or just hide the fact that he was/is an Establishment mole.

Do you want me to share his pics with IK in JKT's jet? Just ask & I will share them with you.

Approved by licensia doctors, submitted to the judges . Or they would have trusted an engineer with the medical examinations?

You can not win here. Just tell yourself that PDF has more than its share of "some of the people all of the time" & be done with it.

You do realize this was CIA backing afghan mujahideen of that time. Routing funds and support indirectly to Afghan mujahideen via ISI. Gen Akhtar was just a conduit as he was overseeing the operation.

I feel sorry for you that you are so blinded by your hate towards army.

I feel sorry for you that you are just plain blind.

Nice, but who's actually surprised? Pakistan is the victim of elite capture, clientelist politics, dysfunctional by design institutions, and no-one, not even the elite who built the state for their benefit trust the system. So whether you earn justly or unjustly, you take the cash and stash it abroad.

Corruption is just one problem, it's part of a much wider set of issues we face.

I hear you, bro.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

The problem is not that Baig travelled in Jets with Imran Khan

The problem is what he said on National TV against Murad Saeed who has impeccable character , you can't go on National TV thru Private channel route and claim someone's moral is Sinister , without any viable proof
It is also an indirect attack on Office of Prime Minister of Pakistan

• Baig Guy ~ Tabloid Journalist , using vulgar breaking news to gain readership

99% of PML / PPP private channel airing are fake news , news flipping and spreading rumors using for profit channels

If a Case was open against , the fella , by Citizen of Pakistan the Special Branch has full authority to , investigate and bring the guy to Police station to question

The fella has no right to take out a Gun and start assaulting the Officers

For attacking an officer or injuring him Special Service has full authority use to self defend themselves

Why is the Judge from Court of Pakistan , scolding the special service Officer for going to investigate and bring the Baig fella to Police station ??

The role of Special Investigative Unit is to investigate to ask questions bring a person in for questioning !!


Does the Special Investigation Unit need to get approval from HIgh Courts and wait 2 years to get approval to go investigate a simple case of crime done by Baig

• False Acquisitions do fall under criminal code

The real objective really is to cut the "B**" of investigative unit make it impotent to investigate out of fear of political retaliation make it a servant of Judges , and red tape to be servant of politicians


The story with Iqrar Ul hassan happened in Sindh and most people already know what Sindh police is like that is well understood , they basically wanted a known person to be harassed and go public with his tory to build pressure



Corrupt Tola

• Want a servant نوکر Police
• Want a servant نوکر Investigative Unit
• Want servant نوکر Judge (Bail Business is good for business)
  • Prepare advance bail orders
  • Judge office open even on holidays and weekends for politicians
  • Always ready to give orders to setup VIP hotel in Prison
  • Favorite job , scold officers who investigate corruption

Excuse me , but a Guy who publicly comes on TV and makes a claim can't come peacefully to station to help answers question by Special Unit

• Who is he working for ?
• Who asked him to run the story?
• Why he made such claims ?
• What was his personal interest ?
• Is this Baig guy a foreign Agent ? What is his story ?

Instead this guy takes out his weapon and attacks he Special unit , so is the Court Judge is so clueless that he instead is scolding the Special unit director ??? Why ??

The story in Sindh against Iqrar and Baig are two different but beneficiary are same group

The judge needed explanation what was the vulgar acquisition , in tabloid book


The Tabloid book is basically making some drastic acquisitions on characters of a person and the judge guy wants "Details" of these


Basically our Court judge wanted explanation and may be some pictures and figures to understand how the vulgar activity took place, who can be more

This judge has to be an utter moron


I would repost the "idiotic claims" from tabloid but I won't because the tabloid book has no merit the author is already being sued by multiple parties and eventually now Murad Saeed will also be suing the author in British court , and the content is morally corrupt


Tabloid/book claims

• Pakistan's Prime Minister , father of multiple children and married multiple times not hetro sexual
• Pakistani Politicians again not hetrosexual because they hang out often
• Political Alliance with Influential people with money not herosexual trait (reference to friendship with Jahangir Tareen)
• Admiring someone for their hard work is , not heterosexual trait
• If someone was working hard , and spent more time with work collogues , then he is not hetrosexual
• Yet conflicting claim that Female PTI members send sext messages

Long story short , the Judge feels there was no vulgar elements suggested , then Pakistan Ka Allah Hafiz who can be more U*** K* P**** then this Judge called Athar

 

[Chak Bamu]

The problem is not that Baig travelled in Jets with Imran Khan

The problem is what he said on National TV against Murad Saeed who has impeccable character

So, otherwise he is OK? LOL.... Its funny to see you back-paddle now. How far are you gonna go in reverse?

 

[S.Y.A]

So? What is your point?


Here. Thank me later:

so? its just a pic. where does it say that is was sponsored by his sons? or how does it prove it?

 

[Chak Bamu]

so? its just a pic. where does it say that is was sponsored by his sons? or how does it prove it?

Its a picture because I wanted to present the face of the book. The link is in the picture. I read it 20 years ago when I was a pro-army uber-nationalist like most here & even then I realized the obvious problem - how did Gen Akhtar's sons get so wealthy when their father was not independently wealthy man? The author literally writes that the General was so constrained in his means when his sons were in university that he had only two uniforms that were washed & ironed almost daily on alternate basis, I mean WTH? How did they make so much money out of thin air? They were billionaires decades ago, for God's sake! Don't you have two neurons to make a connection?

So read & enjoy the fiction if you are so inclined.

 

[S.Y.A]

Its a picture because I wanted to present the face of the book. The link is in the picture. I read it 20 years ago when I was a pro-army uber-nationalist like most here & even then I realized the obvious problem - how did Gen Akhtar's sons get so wealthy when their father was not independently wealthy man? The author literally writes that the General was so constrained in his means when his sons were in university that he had only two uniforms that were washed & ironed almost daily on alternate basis, I mean WTH? How did they make so much money out of thin air? They were billionaires decades ago, for God's sake! Don't you have two neurons to make a connection?

So read & enjoy the fiction if you are so inclined.

The face of the books still doesnt prove that it was financed by his sons, that is pure conjecture by you. if you have even two neurons you would have known that to prove something you require more than this.

 

[Chak Bamu]

The face of the books still doesnt prove that it was financed by his sons, that is pure conjecture by you. if you have even two neurons you would have known that to prove something you require more than this.

Dude, all you have to do is read it. I am not gonna re-read it & quote actual passages to someone whose mind was made up before he was born.

 

[Patriot forever]

You can not win here. Just tell yourself that PDF has more than its share of "some of the people all of the time" & be done with it.


I feel sorry for you that you are just plain blind.

Hahaha which hospital you want a certificate from, it's readily available for a few bucks by licensed doctors.

Patient 3 MI, infact one in the morning evening and night continuous according to some journalists, where is he treated right now? 'Takatsobu syndrome'

I am not the deaf and ignorant here.

I have read your conjectures in thin air in this case and I can only but laugh at the hypocrisy in your posts on this thread.

 

[S.Y.A]

Dude, all you have to do is read it. I am not gonna re-read it & quote actual passages to someone whose mind was made up before he was born.

will reading the book provide me with proof or it details the account transfers, that you claim were made to this guy?

 

[Chak Bamu]

will reading the book provide me with proof or it details the account transfers, that you claim were made to this guy?

No it won't, but fluff pieces are written for a reason - money. If you wish to think that the motives for writing tear-inducing fiction about a poor poor general with rich rich kids is just plain philanthropy, then that is on you.

 

[S.Y.A]

No it won't, but fluff pieces are written for a reason - money. If you wish to think that the motives for writing tear-inducing fiction about a poor poor general with rich rich kids is just plain philanthropy, then that is on you.

Oh, BTW, are you this charitable when IK or anyone of his cronies shoots off a bald lie about someone or the other? Yeah, I did not think so too. Hypocrisy is spelled P. T. I.

lol, what makes you think that I am a supporter of PTI? more conjecture? you are accusing me of supporting lies, while it looke like you are the one with a serious habit of doing the same, what a hypocrite!

 

[M. Sarmad]

General Akhtar Abdul Rahman lived a hero and died a hero. The nation is forever indebted to him. No amount of propaganda can harm his reputation. As for his sons, they are ordinary corrupt politicians.

And as for this @Chak Bamu clown, he's a self confessed army hater no one takes seriously here on PDF. He claims that his father in law was a senior most Army officer who was wronged by the Army. He's on a personal vendetta against PA top brass