Rafi
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Pak's nukes are not India's problem anymore let the west and chinese problem now so let them break their head .But btw i do stand bt my CT of pakistan being just like turkey with usa nukes on its soil.and i'm convinced of it.you can call it intution.China and Pakistan's strategic interests are in convergence - and regarding the Nukes - let me categorically state that the nuclear weapons are our's to use, and even China does not get a say, if you really want, we can try out your hypothesis, but would not be good for your future generations.
Its not India's problem anymore let the west and chinese problem now so let them break their head .But btw i do stand bt my CT of pakistan being just like turkey with usa nukes on its soil.
But Nawaz Sharif's opinion count's even more as he was the PRIME MINISTER of pakistan.General Pal is saying india lost the war, strategically, militarily. And his opinion counts, he was the supreme commander of all indian land forces in the conflict.
But Nawaz Sharif's opinion count's even more as he was the PRIME MINISTER of Pakistan.
I've cearly mentioned as intution not as opinion.And challenging the intution of a woman is like challenging thAllah(swt) Himself.You have the right to your opinion, if what you said was true, then you have nothing to worry about.
Oscar,
PA did act on ETIM group and other situations like lal masjid operation or on the assassination of Chineses Engineers involved in projects with pakistan on Chinese govt.prodding.As you classify good and bad terrorists in above posts I wonder how you separate them:i guess XinJiang group(ETIM)as bad terrorists + one those attack chinese citizens and interests on pakistani soil as bad terrorists) but who are the good ones.Secondly there are so many loosely operating tanzeems overlapping each others' interest and drawing cadre from both bad and good ones how its possible to keep tab on all of them.
From geopolitics and realpolitic let me jump on to philosophical plane.
Iqbal long back had drawn the map of the Pan-Islamic World,to whom Pakistan owns him as its national poet and visionary of its existence categorically included Kashgar when he says in one of his famous couplets:
Aik ho Muslim haram ki pasbani ke liye,
Neel ke sahil say le ke taba Khak-e-Kashgar.
(Become one for guarding of Muslim sacredness.
From the banks of the Nile up to the soil of Kashgar.)
Now my question is that PA and Pak establishment may have its own foreign /security policy wrt to Xinjiang which is opposite to Iqbal's vision but then majority of pak awam or majority in PA agrees with this opposition to the PA views wrt kashgar. If yes.hoDoesnt it like saying that we are dumping Iqbal's ideology and its just not practical to follow it.If No then how much stiff resistance you expect from the people.
This is where my Part of CT on nukes kicks in wrt to chinese of pakistani nuke is same as that of western fear.
As for India best way is to just keep converting its fear of pakistani nukes as the fear of everyone.India did tested this wrt to terror targeted at india and the game theory does works in favour of india as one saw in last decade.
Oscar If I remove some of those star *** words then it's fine, with data and are video are ok ?
The Hindu : Front Page : Military tribunal slams Kargil war leadershipNS - is bitter, his opinion is tainted - General Pal's opinion is much more important he led his troops in the conflict. Politicians in South Asia know jack about military matters.
Pakistan Peoples PartyThen there is recent Kashmir history. Musharaf was the architect of the Kargil crisis where thousands of Pakistani soldiers and Kashmiri militants lost their lives. Musharaf, like Lady Macbeth, finds it difficult to wash the stains of their blood from his hands. When he flies into Agra with his seventy-man delegation, the ghosts of three thousand Pakistani soldiers, buried secretly, fly with him. He will see their faces as they starved to death in the icy peaks of Kargil when supply lines stopped.
The Hindu : Front Page : Military tribunal slams Kargil war leadership
Pal was proved false by a military tribunal.
As for Nawaz as he was a prime minister had access to all classified briefings(incl.level 5)
But a lt.gen like pal has access to only level 3 briefings.
I do get that since Zia's days PA ideology has completely changed and with the Zia's generation ideologically motivated generals start replacing the officers corp thats where the real fear of west and china kicks in wrt to nukes and terror.Till India was only the punching bag it was all fine with everyone.but as one can se today that india's problem of 1990s has become the world problem today.As world got more threatened india is getting safe as compared to 1980-90s.Same is happening with nukes.Ie the solution to india's fear is that to divert that fear west and everyone else.
And as for chinese what they are that the one who control the strategic weapon in pakistan are getting more ideologically motivated themselves.
Upto kargil war all fits in well and answers the chinese help to india.
But 1971 is still a mystery that even so much prodding by nixon admin chinese never attacked from north.
If it were nukes and terrorists that made china help india in kargil what was the chinese fear in 1971 that stopped it helping pakistan to reduce pressure from north.
As i see last 30-40 yrs of chinese behaviour i do think that 2 front war is just IA's boogeyman just to put GOI in pressure to get more funds for defence.....correct me if i'm wrong here.
General Pal makes some very good remarks, and I find him credible as the commander of indian forces, much respect for him.