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Would have literally bore no fruit anyway. A waste money on both sides. There can be no basis of terror talks in Kashmir without including Kashmir issue as well . the agenda was a lot like you sit and listen and don't you dare back track from the script. Was never going to happen and here is the kicker it will be like this for a long time.

The thing is 300 years from now nothing will change. India and Pakistan will try to talk and india will say no talks about Kashmir issue and Pakistan will say talk about Kashmir issue and talks would be broken.

The thing is after both countries became nuclear there is no way both of them are getting Kashmir with guns. If a war breaks out then both sides will fight and any side that will make great headway will be immediately threatened by the other side by nuclear retaliation and don't forget other countries won't sit down and say 'let's see how it plays' .. They will interfere and treaties will be signed and we will see no change in the border.

So war is out .. Never happening bcz both Kashmir have about 100000 km square of Kashmir under their control and you would have to be a pretty foolish nation to let such a huge territory get annexed by your enemy and not threaten nuke. Its not a village. So that's out.

That leaves sponsoring terror attacks and freedom fighters The thing is Kashmir is no isolated nation who is covered 97 percent by your enemy 2500 kilometers away from you. So this may be a pain in the side but it will not lead to area being taken away. It will just create terror activities, unrest and a good headache for the army but not complete defeat and area removal of forces. Even attacks on military posts won't lead to armies leaving bcz of the strength of both nations armies is great.

Third is diplomacy. Both sides will not talk on the issue. India will say ignore the issue and talk abt terrorism and we will say terrorism is linked to not giving Kashmiris their rights which leads to Kashmir issue which must be resolved.

As for the world the world doesn't give a damn.UN is the most useless organization in the world while other nations just don't care enough apart from empty words which hold nothing.

This is one border dispute whose end my great great great grandchildren won't be seeing. This won't have an end and it will continue on.
 
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Pakistan should be treated the way Isreal treats Palestine......Stop all talks and talk with bullets and counter terror attacks ..lets see who succumbs to this war! India got to be offensive and I guess we can afford to do so!!
Tell that to your terrorist prime minister or you can launch a campaign on twitter and get support from your countrymen and destroy this evil Pak army once and for all.
That is what you keyboard warriors can do.
 
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Tell that to your terrorist prime minister or you can launch a campaign on twitter and get support from your countrymen and destroy this evil Pak army once and for all.
That is what you keyboard warriors can do.
Its obvious and natural that you feel insecured - If India goes offensive!
 
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Correct analysis. It is rather stupid on Pakistan's side to become rigid on talking with Hurriyat when NS himself did not meet hurriyat when he came last year. Hurriyat leaders themselves were not willing to come to Delhi and were sending representatives.

Pakistani establishment will have to understand that Kashmir agenda will have diminishing returns. Especially now that those idiots have started to display ISIS flags alongside LeT flags in protests. How do you think will Iran or, UAE/Saudi react when they are told that ISIS is trying to spread its wings in valley..? Will they still toe Pakistan's line on Kashmir..? Whole world is giving prominence to economic ties. Even Iran had to sign a deal with West after decades of standoff. If Pakistanis wants to keep repeating Kashmir, they have got an ideal match in Modi. His policy is simple : With Pakistan or, without Pakistan or, despite Pakistan", he is going to move ahead with strengthening economic ties with neighboring countries. Will be interesting to see How long can Pakistani leadership hold forth and see Pakistani economy lagging,




Holy $h*t .... Did you just equate Kashmir and KP ..? Do you agree with Afghanistan's stance that Khyber Pakhtunkhwa is a disputed territory ..?

And BTW Mrs. Swaraj objected to Mr. Aziz's meeting with Hurriyat leaders who are separatists and do not participate in democratic process.. Do you consider Asfandiyar Wali Khan a separatist ..? and is his party fighting to merge KP with Afghanistan ..?

@Imran Khan .. Dekh bhai.. tere country wale kya kya kar rahe hain ...
chal jany do aaj bhut garam din hai sab apny dil ki bharas nikal leen :lol::big_boss:
 
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Bingo .. Baniye wants yo talk about problems but a avoiding core issue .... Sort of diplomatic victory for us..
 
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Pakistan should be treated the way Isreal treats Palestine......Stop all talks and talk with bullets and counter terror attacks ..lets see who succumbs to this war! India got to be offensive and I guess we can afford to do so!!

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Hum ny ye 'Shab e Baraat' pr nhi chalany :crazy:
 
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we have so many haters and bold talkers like her but we never give them any position in gov . i think we should give now some posts to big mouths also .
Actually it doesn't matter, coz real power is in hands of your's army, rest are Time Pass:D

Yeah we are so scared of mighty indian Army equipped with vedic arms.
You should be :pleasantry:
 
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are you honestly a think tank?? I might have missed the earlier conversation however if this is some pun then fine otherwise i am sorry this post of yours is way below par and that too from a think tank is shocking!!




Maybe if you had working brain cells you would have realized why I quoted that article.




Pakistan backtracked from Ufa agreement as soon as they realized that terrorism would be discussed. Keep your principal (principled?) stand, we will keep Kashmir. Thanks.



There was a declaration because it was agreed upon by both sides.


All these security issues are indirectly connected with Kashmir. Talking of working cells, if Kashmir was peaceful, would we be having this conversation ?
 
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Both India and Pakistan, tried to twist Ufa agreement in their favor. Both are egoistic and wrong. Being a Pakistani; I believe at this moment; terrorism should be Pakistan's prime agenda before Kashmir. As far as India is concerned; Hurriyat is not a third party; how can you decide future of Kashmir without consulting people of Kashmir? Also there is no representative other than Hurriyat. Sushma Swaraj should know that shimla agreement is not valid for Kashmir. India and Pakistan are no one to decide future of Kashmir; it should be people Kashmir to decide their fate. Their consultation is very much necessary; when talking about them. Pakistan should and must meet Kashmiri representative, before talking about Kashmir with India.
 
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but both sides there are so many whon want to carry on this shit. yes terror must be first agenda and look we have solved it before remember punjab insurgency ? it was finished after benazeer join indian side . better if we talk first on our core issue. kashmir ? lolz this issue need some more decades abut hurriyat pakistan is stupid even hurriyat guys are not coming to delhi why we bother ?
Sir ji because Pakistan is afraid of talking about terrorism:D:D:D
Nahi to kya problem thi bataiye to :pissed:
Kay hum Sartaz sahab ka swagat nahi karte:rolleyes1:
 
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