PAF should focus on 5th Generation Fighter Jets now.

[Zarvan]

Whats the hurry for weapons?

No sovereign country would dare mess with Pakistan and the current inventory is more than enough to deal with extremist rabble. Just focus on economy and education, military toys can come later.

Appreciate what you have.

Sir we know what we have that is why we need more

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

Sir we know what we have that is why we need more

Sir? I am just a humble young gorilla.

 

[Hurter]

Sir? I am just a humble young gorilla.

Ok Mr.Gorilla, We want more ... Peace

 

[The SC]

No , you have committed no CRIME...

But you have to understand the context and have a broader Perspective.

Let me explain in terms that you may understand.

Every Air Force in the World wants the best and most technological advanced Jet.

One of the primary limitation is the Financial resources.

Pakistan Air Force wants the same as they are dead serious about having the most Technologically advanced Air Force in the World, but are limited by the available Financial Resources.

With that in mind, please understand that they are trying to get the most advanced Fighters that their budget would allow.

However , the PAF Fifth Generation aircrafts are already on the design board and hopefully should materialize by 2020. Hopefully by then we have the Economy to afford the acquisition of such Technologically advanced Jets.

Please let me add that not only the financial constraints are to be taken into account, because even when there are none like in the case of Europe and others, for the F-35, the production capacity and technology adjustments should also be taken into account.

I believe J-31 is downgraded versions and inferior compared to 5th Generation fighter jets under progress.

No, Pakistan wouldn't receive J-20 which is only for China.

Did Pakistan develop own helicopters to counter internal matters?

No, we DON'T have FUNDS AVAILABLE EVERY YEAR then Pakistan shouldn't look for 5th Generation fighter jets at all.

Downgraded from what? there is nothing like it to compare it to. It has a design of the F-22 with a size of the F-35, it is a 4+++ generation and a 5th one depending on mission and requirements.

 

[The SC]

Hi,

Knowing 5th gen technology and building an aircraft are two different things---even though they are connected.

Investing in anti 5th gen tech is less expensive and is an extremely feasible proposition to start with.

Since nothing like an anti 5th generation tech is around, apart from some old soviet very powerful radars like the ones uses in Yugoslavia to detect down the F-117 stealth fighter. and eventhough that was a subsonic fighter.
One should try to get both 5th generation stealth fighters and the tech to counter them. But since stealth comes in different forms and guises, one should concentrate on the the anti stealth technology of his adversary stealth technologies.
Since Russian and American stealth is not based on the same technologies, and the existence of yet other stealth tech possibilities.

 

[The SC]

I said Euro Fighter or J 10 any one of these ET quite difficult only chance is you refused it so in anger the may agree to sell it to us but our economy needs to improve or J 10 C the upcoming model is quite advanced Jet it is the most easy option but I am sure we need 3 platforms of 4.5 Generation and than starts focusing on 5th Generation

It is more like JF-17, F-16, J-10? (J-31 can play the role of a 4.5 generation fighter too, see pictures) and J-31 pure 5th generation, with the possibility of M2K-9s from UAE (4 squadrons) and more F-16 for MLU.

Most important, the J-31 will be available in the next 2 to 3 years as incredible as it sounds , some experts (western) believe it.

 

[trident2010]

I think 10 Squadrons of 5th gen planes would be good for PAF.

 

[danger007]

I think 10 Squadrons of 5th gen planes would be good for PAF.

are you kidding ?? PAF will get bankrupt to maintain 180+ 5th gen jets...

It is more like JF-17, F-16, J-10? (J-31 can play the role of a 4.5 generation fighter too, see pictures) and J-31 pure 5th generation, with the possibility of M2K-9s from UAE (4 squadrons) and more F-16 for MLU.

Most important, the J-31 will be available in the next 2 to 3 years as incredible as it sounds , some experts (western) believe it.

may be J -20 is available by 2020 but j- 31 after 2020...chinese will induct first ...

 

[SQ8]

I think 10 Squadrons of 5th gen planes would be good for PAF.

Why? Is India financing them?

Maintaining a 5th generation jet is MUCH more costly as compared to a non LO aircraft. Take the F-35s cost for e.g.

are you kidding ?? PAF will get bankrupt to maintain 180+ 5th gen jets...
may be J -20 is available by 2020 but j- 31 after 2020...chinese will induct first ...

No J-20, it is a China exclusive jet and as such has little utility in the Indo-Pak scenario. The J-31 was focused on the export(read Pakistan) market...but there is another platform rumoured(solid sources) that both the Chinese and the PAF are quiet about.

 

[danger007]

Why? Is India financing them?

Maintaining a 5th generation jet is MUCH more costly as compared to a non LO aircraft. Take the F-35s cost for e.g.



No J-20, it is a China exclusive jet and as such has little utility in the Indo-Pak scenario. The J-31 was focused on the export(read Pakistan) market...but there is another platform rumoured(solid sources) that both the Chinese and the PAF are quiet about.

yes I'm aware about J -20. .. as he said J -31 will be available by 2016-17.. am saying not gonna happen early 2020...

 

[Basel]

J-31 design shows it will be short legged like Mig-29 early models as it will have low fuel capacity specially for a twin engine plane.

PAF must also look other projects to get the tech if they can not get the plane or even if those projects does not go through, it will allow PAF to build a 5th gen plane with China but with western tech input and fully tailored for PAF's need.

 

[Storm Force]

PAF must also look other projects to get the tech if they can not get the plane or even if those projects does not go through, it will allow PAF to build a 5th gen plane with China but with western tech input and fully tailored for PAF's need.

Too Basel

1. Western fifth generation tech costs $ billions ... They are not going to give AWAY FOR PEANUTS their best technology unless you sell your mother,, soul ,,and bankrupt yourself first.

2. No one will sell you their best technology . AND 5th generation is THE BEST and the most costly
Be it USA china Russia or France.

3. Realistically PAF cant get a cheap 4th generation fighter J10 .. Do you really think a fifth gen is avialable..

 

[rockstar08]

I would say , try to get the remaining 18 F-16's block 50/52 from USA , or extend the order from 18 to 30 birds ...
no one can underestimate the power f-16's specially with PAF pilots flying them

 

[trident2010]

I would say , try to get the remaining 18 F-16's block 50/52 from USA , or extend the order from 18 to 30 birds ...
no one can underestimate the power f-16's specially with PAF pilots flying them

You mean F-16s will beat 5th gen fighters?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

WS-13 is the key. But apart from news of it being tested on one of FC-1 prototypes, there is no news available. It is being developed further. But we just do not know where it has gotten to by now.

The key jet engine for J-31 will be WS-17.

A 5th gen medium thrust turbofan engine.