PAF locked on 9 shoot only two...PAF official....0n 27 Feb....

[SQ8]

Thanks. Locking birds with JFTs or F16s? or both?

Both.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

How did JFT's perform against Mirage 2000s?

Well according to PAF, Mirage 2000s could had been shot down. Thunders jammed their radars

 

[Mentee]

You should know when to call it quits.

Hey listen mate either allow everyone to develop trade ties with India or bar all from doing so. This befitting response cat and mouse complicity is taking a toll on our honor and economy . Rest I don't care how and when they write off our defense budget in case we surrender diplomatically. atleast we'd be spending it on human development.

Screw their 9-5 routine!

 

[Mace]

Well according to PAF, Mirage 2000s could had been shot down. Thunders jammed their radars

BS

 

[Maarkhoor]

BS

You are talking about former air chief BS do-anaa

 

[kursed]

Thanks. Locking birds with JFTs or F16s? or both?

Both.

 

[Enigma SIG]

Hey listen mate either allow everyone to develop trade ties with India or bar all from doing so. This befitting response cat and mouse complicity is taking a toll on our honor and economy . Rest I don't care how and when they write off our defense budget in case we surrender diplomatically. atleast we'd be spending it on human development.

Screw their 9-5 routine!

By "you" I meant the PAF in case you couldn't discern it from my reply.

I'm just pointing out why the duplicity of "9 locked but 2 shot down PAF and Govt. is a traitor". Question is; if we did have the upper hand which supposedly we did, given the line of thinking promoted on PDF, why would we stop at 9 aircraft? We should have bombed their airbases then, took over their skies; targeted their cities and have put an end to the India equation once and for all. India wouldn't have budged (or so the arm-chair generals make you think).

 

[aliyusuf]

BS

Yep ... the starting initials of your air chief at the time and what the entire Indian narrative is on the issue.
But above all ... you don't like us and we don't like you ... but like the shameless and fascist minded zealots you are ... you still keep frequenting our forums.

BS is what you people revel in.

 

[F86 Saber]

Hi,

That shows a total lack of understanding of the region---.

India was in no position for a full scale attack on pakistan or any other form of escalation.

Its economy is on the brink of collapse---. Any retaliation on their part would have seen foreign capitol flying out of the country---.




COWARDICE---?



Hi,

India was the aggressor---. India crossed the line of control---india struck a school and killed 300 children---.

American bloggers on multiple sites declaring the 26th action as an act of war by india over pakistan---.

Pakistan military had an extremely poor understanding of what occurred and how to have used it to its advantage---.

Gen Ghafoor wanted to look CLEVER and cute in front of the world media---.

There were more cowards in the prime minister's cabinet meeting than brave men and women---.

I know my post against Mr. MastaanKhan will most probably be deleted but it is really beyond my mental threshold of BS.

If all of these people including the PM, the Cabinet Members, the Generals, the Airforce officials were cowards, why was operation Swift Retort given the go ahead in the first place? India had no solid proof (they have non even till date) of hitting anything on the ground much less killing 300 terrorists, we could have just negated their narrative and sat on our point that it was a failed attempt and done nothing..

Mr. MastanKhan you have no idea what Operation SWIFT Retort was, how it was planned and how it was executed. Neither were you sitting in the cockpit of one of the Mirages/JF-17's carrying the bombs heading fearlessly towards enemy territory nor the F-16 fighter sweep tasked with bearing the brunt of a possible enemy counter attack. You were not one of the soldiers standing guard on the border in front of enemy's guns, heck you weren't even one of the common people on ground in Pakistan who would have faced the outcome of the Nuclear Holocaust. You have no right to call anyone a coward.

Operation Swift Retort could easily have gone totally wrong, it was a calculated risk with countless variable even one of which not going as planned would have severely backfired resulting in loss of many a brave sons of soil none of whom were you or someone closely related to you.

We are proud of our Airforce, for their resolve and for their bravery. There was no need to shoot down anymore enemy aircraft and we didn't and because of that India today has been labeled as the aggressor and Pakistan as a successful defender of it's sovereignty.

 

[Sunny4pak]

If someone slaps you, you dont respond with beating him to death but a punch would be more then enough.
What PAF did was send a strong message to India and the result was in their humiliation and a bloody nose.

After reading your post (which is quite realistic & sensible at the same) I have taken back my thanks -))
to those who were saying PAF should have taken down all those A...whol..

Bambo part of your post was "Umma Chumma"

 

[Haris Ali2140]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1234730475467481089

 

[Nasr]

To all those who beat their chests about Pakistan "should have shot down all 9 iaf fighters, that PAF fighters locked on to" need to really have a hard think about what they're actually saying. When a skirmish spirals into a full blown war, there is no coming back from it. Particularly because both countries have nuclear weapons. Hundreds of millions will perish when a nuclear exchange takes place. Devastation is incalculable and the loss of human life is immeasurable. Hindustanis for whatever they are, are still humans and more than that Pakistanis are our brothers and sisters.

In every conflict there is either one side which has full control of it's faculties and acts measurably to avert war. While in other cases, both sides lose any sense of human intellect and rationality. On February 27 2019, Pakistan demonstrated to the world that it is a responsible and rational state who shows restraint, while hindustan's leadership showed the world that they are running around like headless chickens, as fanatics. For Pakistan, the odds are always stacked against it, hence we somehow manage to make rational decisions, no matter how unfathomable it may seem. Make no mistake, Pakistan does mark a clear distinction between it's right to defend itself, from mindless and senseless war. At least that is how Pakistan's actions have been interpreted, globally.

From a strategic stand point, there is no reason for Pakistan to overpower a country whose leadership and people have fragile egos. The objective was achieved, to demonstrate to hindustan and the world, that Pakistan is will respond militarily, if it's territorial integrity was breached by any adversary. That Pakistan has the capability to respond, at the time and place of it's chosing. And Pakistan isn't a country which is fanatical about War. The world knows that Pakistan has fought a war against terror, for the last 20 years. The world also knows that Pakistan has voiced the Kashmir atrocities for decades and Kashmir is at the heart of Pakistan. So when the time comes, where hindustanis lose all sense of rationality and go for an all out war. At that time, when Pakistan is again attacked by hindustan, it shall unleash it's military power, both conventional and nuclear, upon the enemy. The world can sit by and do nothing, as it had demonstrably done in the last 70 odd years.

 

[SIPRA]

I know my post against Mr. MastaanKhan will most probably be deleted but it is really beyond my mental threshold of BS.

If all of these people including the PM, the Cabinet Members, the Generals, the Airforce officials were cowards, why was operation Swift Retort given the go ahead in the first place? India had no solid proof (they have non even till date) of hitting anything on the ground much less killing 300 terrorists, we could have just negated their narrative and sat on our point that it was a failed attempt and done nothing..

Mr. MastanKhan you have no idea what Operation SWIFT Retort was, how it was planned and how it was executed. Neither were you sitting in the cockpit of one of the Mirages/JF-17's carrying the bombs heading fearlessly towards enemy territory nor the F-16 fighter sweep tasked with bearing the brunt of a possible enemy counter attack. You were not one of the soldiers standing guard on the border in front of enemy's guns, heck you weren't even one of the common people on ground in Pakistan who would have faced the outcome of the Nuclear Holocaust. You have no right to call anyone a coward.

Operation Swift Retort could easily have gone totally wrong, it was a calculated risk with countless variable even one of which not going as planned would have severely backfired resulting in loss of many a brave sons of soil none of whom were you or someone closely related to you.

We are proud of our Airforce, for their resolve and for their bravery. There was no need to shoot down anymore enemy aircraft and we didn't and because of that India today has been labeled as the aggressor and Pakistan as a successful defender of it's sovereignty.

Excellent post. Fully agree and appreciate.

 

[Sunny4pak]

Very reliable sources are saying that 6 were shot down, but PAF kept quiet about the 3 m2k & 1 su30 shot down on the iok side since the PAF didn't want to appear as the aggressor

Hmmmmm.

 

[Enigma SIG]

To all those who beat their chests about Pakistan "should have shot down all 9 iaf fighters, that PAF fighters locked on to" need to really have a hard think about what they're actually saying. When a skirmish spirals into a full blown war, there is no coming back from it. Particularly because both countries have nuclear weapons. Hundreds of millions will perish when a nuclear exchange takes place. Devastation is incalculable and the loss of human life is immeasurable. Hindustanis for whatever they are, are still humans and more than that Pakistanis are our brothers and sisters.

In every conflict there is either one side which has full control of it's faculties and acts measurably to avert war. While in other cases, both sides lose any sense of human intellect and rationality. On February 27 2019, Pakistan demonstrated to the world that it is a responsible and rational state who shows restraint, while hindustan's leadership showed the world that they are running around like headless chickens, as fanatics. For Pakistan, the odds are always stacked against it, hence we somehow manage to make rational decisions, no matter how unfathomable it may seem. Make no mistake, Pakistan does mark a clear distinction between it's right to defend itself, from mindless and senseless war. At least that is how Pakistan's actions have been interpreted, globally.

From a strategic stand point, there is no reason for Pakistan to overpower a country whose leadership and people have fragile egos. The objective was achieved, to demonstrate to hindustan and the world, that Pakistan is will respond militarily, if it's territorial integrity was breached by any adversary. That Pakistan has the capability to respond, at the time and place of it's chosing. And Pakistan isn't a country which is fanatical about War. The world knows that Pakistan has fought a war against terror, for the last 20 years. The world also knows that Pakistan has voiced the Kashmir atrocities for decades and Kashmir is at the heart of Pakistan. So when the time comes, where hindustanis lose all sense of rationality and go for an all out war. At that time, when Pakistan is again attacked by hindustan, it shall unleash it's military power, both conventional and nuclear, upon the enemy. The world can sit by and do nothing, as it had demonstrably done in the last 70 odd years.

Ironically; PDF'ers clamoring for war are conveniently sitting in western states, leaving us poor folks to deal with the fallout. Once war starts, these folks will be like kaha tha na escalate karo!