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@Dazzler ,still didn't give us a source on where 7 RPG's were fired as u originally claimed on zarrar...and posting old videos of arjun when it was still not in service.Arjun has been in service for 4 yrs now.
Also on K-1 ERA as keshav said if its 70% against milan 2 comapred to 90% for nozh then thats very good for a tier 2 tank.
Syrian Tank takes 3 RPG Shots And still Survives 03/22/2013 - YouTube
Here even syrian t-72M monkey model without ERA takes 3 shots from RPG and survives without damage,and protection of this monkey model 'M' to out t-72ajeya M1 with kanchan and ERA is laughable.
i am not going to go round in circles lad, i heard the firsthand account and news reports too. Will find the video to share with you.
However, you see the above pic of two apfsds rounds? notice something alarming about them? Dont tell me these are not the 125 mm OFB rounds currently in production
Yep those are standrad OFB rounds,there are isreali rounds and standard russian rounds available as well for 125 mm.We recently made a large purchase of new rounds too.Not sure about their penetration.
About t-72 i see that shut u up.
And ofcourse we also made a purchase of 10000 invar-m off the shelf and 25000 under license as well.
they are TURMS upgraded verions so i see they survived three hits. Cool. see the image below
However,
not all were upgraded to TURMS so rest is pretty pathetic to see........... all were succumbed to RPGS !!!
What a suggestion
No army thought of that ever!
Seriously though, no invar or Refleks or Kombat or Cobra or xyz missile can substitute to the most commonly and efficiently used round i.e . APFSDS. If IA is going to use ATGMS against PA APFSDS fleet, they will have to buy 1000000 more.
Not to mention that a HEAT rround (ATGM has a HEAT penetrator) can cause a tank barrel to wear out muc quickly so in effect IA will be more handicapped than they would have liked.
I nevre said substitute,it will complement our rounds.Don't try to put words in my mouth.my quote was-
''And ofcourse we ALSO made a purchase of 10000 invar-m off the shelf and 25000 under license as well.''
Thats a lot of missiles.Ad will do a lot of damage.
35000 rounds for a projected fleet of around 1700 t-90.Thats about 20 rounds per tank available.Given standard load will be about 6 ATGMS,thats 2 full reloads available for whole fleet as war attrition.
It will complement what? A 1500m/s dud?? or a 1600 m/s dud?
Just for your info, these OFB shells are 125 mm so theoritically their speed should have been much higher since the gun chamber provides better pressure somewhere around 51-610 bars, deoendng on the version though. T-90S has a good cannon in 2a46-M-1 and M-5, these shell are just not on par with their power.
HIT made 105 mm L7 based on Brit tech shell goes at around 1650-1700 m/s
Again these are local OFB rounds,we also use israeli and russian AP rounds.More powerful rounds are in development.
And we have advantage in armour protection over ur tanks.
Apparently Syrian Army also operates T-72As, never knew that, the one in video may be that one since A version has improved Dolly Parton thick composite armour which the M version lacks, infact, even S version lacks.
so should i laugh hard on this that after 15 pages of this thread this is what you came up with
give me a single example of your superior armour protection so i could prove you wrong