Outpouring of support for Chinese envoy in Malaysia

[Beast]

i know right. the other non-state owned companies are owned by Europeans, Americans, and the Non-Chinese locals.

it's foolish to think that Indonesia will go bankrupt just because some other Chinese-Supremacist says so, not looking at the facts first.



it's more like population problem than anything else

Biggest Company in Indonesia

1 Astra International (ASII) 307,675,004 (7.46%) 9.20% Miscellaneous
2. HM Sampoerna (HMSP) 262,541,700 (6.36%) 23.30% Tobacco
3. Bank Central Asia (BBCA) 222,116,978 (5.38%) 8.34% Banking
4. Bank Mandiri (BMRI)¹ 187,110,000 (4.53%) 26.60% Banking
5. Telekomunikasi Indonesia (TLKM)¹ 182,447,993 (4.42%) 17.19% Telecom.
6. Bank Rakyat Indonesia (BBRI)¹ 169,736,169 (4.11%) 23.85% Banking
7. Unilever Indonesia (UNVR) 159,085,500 (3.85%) 16.23% Consumption
8. Perusahaan Gas Negara (PGAS)¹ 111,510,938 (2.70%) 30.86% Mining
9. Gudang Garam (GGRM) 108,326,154 (2.62%) –19.99% Tobacco
10. Semen Indonesia (SMGR)¹ 94,014,592 (2.28%) 23.48% Cement

¹ indicates a state-owned enterprise

Astra, Bank Central Asia and HM Sampoerna are own by Westerner (+Japanese/Astra)

This list doesnt count PT Pertamina (State Owned) which is not listed in Jakarta Stock Exchange.

PT Pertamina is the biggest one, this year it will invest about 25 billion USD.

Indonesia's Top Ten Companies Ranked by Largest Market Capitalization | Indonesia Investments

Top 10 Richest People in Indonesia 2015 - Forbes List

You shall check out the list.

 

[Indos]

BCA share holder

Shareholding as at March 31, 2015
The Shareholders Number of Shares Ownership Percentage
FarIndo Investments (Mauritius) Ltd qualitate qua (qq)
Mr. Robert Budi Hartono and Mr. Bambang Hartono* 11,625,990,000 47.15%
Anthony Salim 434,079,976 1.76%
Public ** 12,594,940,024 51.09%
Total 24,655,010,000 100.00%

Shareholders - About BCA - bca.co.id

Top 10 Richest People in Indonesia 2015 - Forbes List

You shall check out the list.

It is nuts compare to our state owned companies, some of the richest are also native locals.

We have a religion ( Islam) in here that prevent some one to be greedy and most native is Muslim

 

[Beast]

BCA share holder

Shareholding as at March 31, 2015
The Shareholders Number of Shares Ownership Percentage
FarIndo Investments (Mauritius) Ltd qualitate qua (qq)
Mr. Robert Budi Hartono and Mr. Bambang Hartono* 11,625,990,000 47.15%
Anthony Salim 434,079,976 1.76%
Public ** 12,594,940,024 51.09%
Total 24,655,010,000 100.00%

Shareholders - About BCA - bca.co.id



It is nuts compare to our state owned companies, some of the richest are also native locals.

We have a religion ( Islam) in here that prevent some one to be greedy and most native is Muslim

Cant beat facts and start bringing out religion? Your shall come out better reasoning. You can say so to those super rich Sheikh in middle east. If not for the local indonesian preference in government sector. I bet Indonesia Chinese will takeover everything

 

[Daniel808]

It's nearly impossible to apply for Chinese residency or citizenship for foreigners, no matter u have Chinese blood or not.

Back in 1950s, China tried to develop good relationship with developing countries in Southeast Asia, thus abolishing dual citizenship and discouraging overseas Chinese to regain Chinese citizenship. That's the problem. Policies should change to some extent.

However, if Chinese left Malaysia, the local economy would completely die. There have been some local adverse effects when wealthy Chinese elites are moving to Thailand, Singapore and western countries.

If they play dirty, China should embrace overseas Chinese back to China and in the meantime, economy of Malaysia is doomed to collapse.

Many my Chinese friend in Indonesia.
Always Praise about China, They are Proud of China Today.

When we have a time for Chit chat, They always say China is so strong today, Chinese Government will help Overseas Chinese in case, There is another Massacre like 1998 Indonesian Anti Chinese Riot.

But, Yes. Like you said.
It's Nearly Impossible to apply for PRC Citizenship, even for Overseas Chinese.


I have a Question for you, Brother.
If My Grand Father and My Grand Mother have PRC Citizenship, and also my father have PRC Citizenship until his reach 20 years old.
Can I get PRC Citizenship under Chinese Nationality Law?

Thanks.



There is so Called 'Bamboo Network Economy'
Just Searching for it.
And you will know about How Much Overseas Chinese Contribution in China Economic Development.

 

[prima99]

Cant beat facts and start bringing out religion? Your shall come out better reasoning. You can say so to those super rich Sheikh in middle east. If not for the local indonesian preference in government sector. I bet Indonesia Chinese will takeover everything

oh of course there are rich chinese people too, your point?

have i never mentioned about Indonesian Conglomerates as well? here it is!

List of Indonesians by net worth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Indos]

Cant beat facts and start bringing out religion? Your shall come out better reasoning. You can say so to those super rich Sheikh in middle east. If not for the local indonesian preference in government sector. I bet Indonesia Chinese will takeover everything

In here, if we have already had some money by running a business, we go politics and take the power......

 

[haviZsultan]

Well, I'm one of the minority.
What i can say is, we (as a Malaysian) are destroy our own society and country; if the majority choose this destiny.

UN should directly involve only IF there are civil war, massacre or same type of incident.

So you are a malaysian chinese? Cool mate. You have given much to the local economy and deserve to be given love and respect. Whats your take on the current situation, perhaps intricately described by you?

 

[kankan326]

No country can bully our Chinese folks. China has duty to protect ethnic Chinese. Even they don't have China's nationalities.

 

[prima99]

No country can bully our Chinese folks. China has duty to protect ethnic Chinese. Even they don't have China's nationalities.

though China's the ones bullying them?

(quoted from the Youtube link)

China nationals have voted Singaporeans the "most disgusting and irritating" nationality. A German TV show called us crazy. In this clip, Singaporeans speak out.

 

[AndrewJin]

Many my Chinese friend in Indonesia.
Always Praise about China, They are Proud of China Today.

When we have a time for Chit chat, They always say China is so strong today, Chinese Government will help Overseas Chinese in case, There is another Massacre like 1998 Indonesian Anti Chinese Riot.

But, Yes. Like you said.
It's Nearly Impossible to apply for PRC Citizenship, even for Overseas Chinese.


I have a Question for you, Brother.
If My Grand Father and My Grand Mother have PRC Citizenship, and also my father have PRC Citizenship until his reach 20 years old.
Can I get PRC Citizenship under Chinese Nationality Law?

Thanks.



There is so Called 'Bamboo Network Economy'
Just Searching for it.
And you will know about How Much Overseas Chinese Contribution in China Economic Development.

Yes, overseas Chinese also helped a lot during hardest time of China, like WWII and economic reforms.
There are a lot of projects in China which u won't even realise they are invested by overseas Chinese.

Water cube, the most financially successful olympic stadium in China
Donated by overseas Chinese

the number of such buildings invested by overseas Chinese are thousands of.

Concerning citizenship, sorry, it's no.
Dual citizenship is not accepted.
Nationality law of the People's Republic of China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[kankan326]

Many my Chinese friend in Indonesia.
Always Praise about China, They are Proud of China Today.

When we have a time for Chit chat, They always say China is so strong today, Chinese Government will help Overseas Chinese in case, There is another Massacre like 1998 Indonesian Anti Chinese Riot.

But, Yes. Like you said.
It's Nearly Impossible to apply for PRC Citizenship, even for Overseas Chinese.


I have a Question for you, Brother.
If My Grand Father and My Grand Mother have PRC Citizenship, and also my father have PRC Citizenship until his reach 20 years old.
Can I get PRC Citizenship under Chinese Nationality Law?

Thanks.



There is so Called 'Bamboo Network Economy'
Just Searching for it.
And you will know about How Much Overseas Chinese Contribution in China Economic Development.

though China's the ones bullying them?

(quoted from the Youtube link)

China nationals have voted Singaporeans the "most disgusting and irritating" nationality. A German TV show called us crazy. In this clip, Singaporeans speak out.

Chinese hate Singaporeans because they love Singaporeans(Chinese ethnic)

 

[Tiger Genie]

can't we all just get along

 

[Place Of Space]

Even if the son has turned on his mother, the mother will always protect the son in times of dire need.

Also, these aren't even people who have deserted China, rather they are proud Chinese.



You will get the loyalty of more than 50 million overseas Chinese.

You would get a highly intelligent, hard working, trained, and loyal group of people.

Also, everything isn't about political benefit. There are actions that you take because you have to.



I think many overseas Chinese would be happy if China just gives them citizenship when they require it, an overseas Chinese card that facilitates travel, and safety. Nothing else. Most will not ask to interfere in the affairs of their host country.

You are very correct. The Buddha of Anqu refuses to attend Dalai Lama's 80 year birthday, say goodby to India, re-ceive Chinese citizenship, come back to live in China.

"I am glad to be real Chinese natioanlity again. " He proundly announced.

 

[prima99]

LOL apparently someone is deleting my post with the added videos. prolly the work of @Hu Songshan . why are you deleting the videos? is that even violating the rules or are you using your mod's authority unjustly?

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

Yes, overseas Chinese also helped a lot during hardest time of China, like WWII and economic reforms.
There are a lot of projects in China which u won't even realise they are invested by overseas Chinese.

Water cube, the most financially successful olympic stadium in China
Donated by overseas Chinese
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the number of such buildings invested by overseas Chinese are thousands of.
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Concerning citizenship, sorry, it's no.
Dual citizenship is not accepted.
Nationality law of the People's Republic of China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not dual citizenship. Citizenship should be provided to people who are willingly dropping their old one, and coming back home.

There are many many comments who mention this. Actually Chinese malaysians have a very complicated relationship with China, because secretly they expect things off China, but China has largely let them down. This incident at a crucial stage evoked so strong feelings of solidarity and outpouring of support.

So in the end, the proposal works something like this:

1. Every willing overseas Chinese member should be issued an electronic Overseas Chinese card.
2. After once the card is issued, visa requirements should be waived.
3. Any one who is willingly ready to come back to China after leaving his old home, should be given citizenship.
4. Non-Interference policy must be maintained, except in cases where there is any possibility of riot.