Outpouring of support for Chinese envoy in Malaysia

[EAsian]

I don't think so.

Overseas Chinese, many of them still have great admiration for China. Rather it was the overseas Chinese that brought in the first wave of investments in the country.

Heard of Robert Kwok?

Deng Xiaoping met him and personally thanked him for his effort in developing China. He was actually a really patriotic Chinese.


I am not asking that you should interfere in internal affairs like barge in with your military, or lecture them on human rights, or decide what political or developmental model they should take.

But the least you should do is to give them a free passage into and out of China without visa, something on the lines of what you are doing for Taiwanese. There can be one overseas Chinese card, through which you can enter the country easily.

Also, citizenship should be given to anyone eager to come back. Remember, Chinese Malaysians are a very entrepreneurial group, and highly educated.

In case of any real riot like situation, efforts should be made to evacuate Chinese.

Honestly SEA Chinese should rely on themselves instead of some foreign sympathy and help.I can't see China would get any political benefit from helping them.

 

[Beast]

Chinese in malaysia is worse than blacks in south africa 50 years ago.

CPC has a duty to look after Chinese citizens, not foreign nationals who might be of ethnic Chinese descent.

Otherwise we would have stopped Burma from bombing the Kokang, and spent our resources to protect people like Gary Locke and Gordon Chang. LOL, no way.

China has long backed Kokang rebel secretly. Large number of weapon and ex PLA personnel has help the Kokang. You think they all do all these without the blessing of CCP?

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

CPC has a duty to look after Chinese citizens, not foreign nationals who might be of ethnic Chinese descent.

Otherwise we would have stopped Burma from bombing the Kokang, and spent our resources to protect people like Gary Locke and Gordon Chang. LOL, no way.

Even if the son has turned on his mother, the mother will always protect the son in times of dire need.

Also, these aren't even people who have deserted China, rather they are proud Chinese.

Honestly SEA Chinese should rely on themselves instead of some foreign sympathy and help.I can't see China would get any political benefit from helping them.

You will get the loyalty of more than 50 million overseas Chinese.

You would get a highly intelligent, hard working, trained, and loyal group of people.

Also, everything isn't about political benefit. There are actions that you take because you have to.

China has long backed Kokang rebel secretly. Large number of weapon and ex PLA personnel has help the Kokang. You think they all do all these without the blessing of CCP?

I think many overseas Chinese would be happy if China just gives them citizenship when they require it, an overseas Chinese card that facilitates travel, and safety. Nothing else. Most will not ask to interfere in the affairs of their host country.

 

[AndrewJin]

No more racist riot, rape or murder of local Chinese. Be it overseas Chinese or PRC ciitizen. Becos this time, China is economy and military strong. CCP has pledge against violent against any Chinese. They will not tolerate this time and will sail Type 071 filled with Chinese marines into any countries if they cannot stop violent against Chinese.

CCP extremely regret failing to act against indonesia anti Chinese riot in 1998. They repeat such time will not happen again since that time, China is still not very strong.



These time is different. Trying to play racist card for Malaysian will not work like in the 60s, 90s. Becos now in 2015, China is very strong. CCP will not tolerate such nonsense against any Chinese.

It will never happen again.
Overseas Chinese especially in Southeast Asia are very successful, their interest overlaps interests of Chinese in China.

 

[Lure]

Unfortunately in your country, it matters.

Are you Bengali? Sikh? Or Muslim? Punjab? Unfortunately Your country has more problems than Malaysia.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Just see the above page. Malaysian Chinese here seem to be more thankful for China's rise, than maybe even the Chinese themselves are.

I must say, among Chinese diaspora, Malaysian Chinese is by far the one that associates, and has some degree of loyalty to China.

People should be loyal to their country of citizenship. Not to a foreign country.

I expect all Chinese citizens to be loyal to China above all else. Similarly, Malaysia expects Malaysian citizens to be loyal to Malaysia above all else.

If ethnic Chinese foreign nationals are loyal to China, they should apply for Chinese citizenship. If they can speak one or more Chinese dialects, and if they can trace their ancestry to China, they have a very good chance of success.

Do you know what you call a person, who is not loyal to their country of citizenship, but instead loyal to a foreign country?

 

[AndrewJin]

People should be loyal to their country of citizenship. Not to a foreign country.

I expect all Chinese citizens to be loyal to China above all else. Similarly, Malaysia expects Malaysian citizens to be loyal to Malaysia above all else.

If ethnic Chinese foreign nationals are loyal to China, they should apply for Chinese citizenship. If they can speak one or more Chinese dialects, and if they can trace their ancestry to China, they have a very good chance of success.

Do you know what you call a person, who is not loyal to their country of citizenship, but instead loyal to a foreign country?

It's nearly impossible to apply for Chinese residency or citizenship for foreigners, no matter u have Chinese blood or not.

Back in 1950s, China tried to develop good relationship with developing countries in Southeast Asia, thus abolishing dual citizenship and discouraging overseas Chinese to regain Chinese citizenship. That's the problem. Policies should change to some extent.

However, if Chinese left Malaysia, the local economy would completely die. There have been some local adverse effects when wealthy Chinese elites are moving to Thailand, Singapore and western countries.

If they play dirty, China should embrace overseas Chinese back to China and in the meantime, economy of Malaysia is doomed to collapse.

 

[prima99]

It's nearly impossible to apply for Chinese residency or citizenship for foreigners, no matter u have Chinese blood or not.

Back in 1950s, China tried to develop good relationship with developing countries in Southeast Asia, thus abolishing dual citizenship and discouraging overseas Chinese to regain Chinese citizenship. That's the problem. Policies should change to some extent.

However, if Chinese left Malaysia, the local economy would completely die. There have been some local adverse effects when wealthy Chinese elites are moving to Thailand, Singapore and western countries.

If they play dirty, China should embrace overseas Chinese back to China and in the meantime, economy of Malaysia is doomed to collapse.

i wonder about that? being a commonwealth nation, UK will back their economy up. losing Chinese-Malay surely damages their economy. however, since there also lots of Bengali-Malaysian which is as rich as their Chinese counterpart are staying, i doubt their economy would go down to Vietnam level.

i don't see the point of taking back Chinese-Malaysian back to PRC. they are staying in Malaysia by their own choice. had they leave Malaysia, they'll become the laughingstock of the entire Chinese ethnics (especially from Chinese-Singaps)

 

[AndrewJin]

i wonder about that? being a commonwealth nation, UK will back their economy up. losing Chinese-Malay surely damages their economy. however, since there also lots of Bengali-Malaysian which is as rich as their Chinese counterpart are staying, i doubt their economy would go down to Vietnam level.

i don't see the point of taking back Chinese-Malaysian back to PRC. they are staying in Malaysia by their own choice. had they leave Malaysia, they'll become the laughingstock of the entire Chinese ethnics (especially from Chinese-Singaps)

Top elites of Malaysian Chinese are leaving Malaysia, that's truth.
If u spend some time studying how Malaysian Malay are running those enterprises which were founded by Chinese, u will know the reason.

 

[prima99]

Top elites of Malaysian Chinese are leaving Malaysia, that's truth.
If u spend some time studying how Malaysian Malay are running those enterprises which were founded by Chinese, u will know the reason.

i know some Chinese-malays left malaysia, though i can't find any article regarding Top Chinese-Malay officials are leaving malaysia. you've got some links for that?

 

[AndrewJin]

i know some Chinese-malays left malaysia, though i can't find any article regarding Top Chinese-Malay officials are leaving malaysia. you've got some links for that?

Not officials, i mean businessmen, scholars, scientists, etc.
Actually Malaysian Chinese have been investing on a large scale in China.

 

[EAsian]

Not officials, i mean businessmen, scholars, scientists, etc.
Actually Malaysian Chinese have been investing on a large scale in China.

Maybe that's what malays wanted,isn't it?People will go to wealthier countries after all.

 

[TejasMk3]

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[Stag112]

Chinese government also interfered when Chinese in Indonesia were attacked couple of decades ago.

Basically the Chinese govt stand that they do not interfere in other countries internal matters is just BS, same as their any other matter of principal.

Example 1 - Borders drawn by Imperialists are not to be respected (except when it suits them)
Example 2 - Internal construction in disputed territories is not to be allowed (except when it suits them)

Basically the Chinese state has only 1 stand - they will bully anyone who can not stop them.

 

[prima99]

Not officials, i mean businessmen, scholars, scientists, etc.
Actually Malaysian Chinese have been investing on a large scale in China.

well, i can't find any article about that either. they could've stayed in Malaysia by spoonfeeding the officials with Rasuah (Bribes). but then i wonder if they really able to do it since their legally racial rules would prevent them.