Outpouring of support for Chinese envoy in Malaysia

[Indos]

No citizenship given but when some countries attempt to massarce them, CCP will ensure that will not happen.


If we take them INdonesia and Malaysia will go bankrupt

You want to live in denial substantial amount of economy wealth is controlled by these small number of overseas Chinese?

Biggest Company in Indonesia

1 Astra International (ASII) 307,675,004 (7.46%) 9.20% Miscellaneous
2. HM Sampoerna (HMSP) 262,541,700 (6.36%) 23.30% Tobacco
3. Bank Central Asia (BBCA) 222,116,978 (5.38%) 8.34% Banking
4. Bank Mandiri (BMRI)¹ 187,110,000 (4.53%) 26.60% Banking
5. Telekomunikasi Indonesia (TLKM)¹ 182,447,993 (4.42%) 17.19% Telecom.
6. Bank Rakyat Indonesia (BBRI)¹ 169,736,169 (4.11%) 23.85% Banking
7. Unilever Indonesia (UNVR) 159,085,500 (3.85%) 16.23% Consumption
8. Perusahaan Gas Negara (PGAS)¹ 111,510,938 (2.70%) 30.86% Mining
9. Gudang Garam (GGRM) 108,326,154 (2.62%) –19.99% Tobacco
10. Semen Indonesia (SMGR)¹ 94,014,592 (2.28%) 23.48% Cement

¹ indicates a state-owned enterprise

Astra, Bank Central Asia and HM Sampoerna are own by Westerner (+Japanese/Astra)

This list doesnt count PT Pertamina (State Owned) which is not listed in Jakarta Stock Exchange.

PT Pertamina is the biggest one, this year it will invest about 25 billion USD.

Indonesia's Top Ten Companies Ranked by Largest Market Capitalization | Indonesia Investments

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

When chaos happen. If we open it now, our relation with Southeast Asia is doomed.

Let me quote some comments from what I have been reading in the news regarding all of this:

Since China is such a great country appreciated and willing to protect the Malaysian Chinese,isnt it much better all Chinese immediately apply to migrate to China where you will be most welcome and nobody will discriminate you guys and you will get all the discounts like everybody else.Why waste time fighting in the blogs when you know in your heart you belong to China and China belong to you.You can also organize a 1million people rally to get more democracy during election time when now only the communist party people are the sole candidates.I am sure DrHuang is more than willing to help you demonstrate in Beijing,the capital of your motherland.

I really feel sorry for these poorly informed UMNO Malay youths. They do not know what is economy and how it is dealt to make Malaysia a rich and developed nation. Malaysia cannot don any of this on its own without foreign investment and funding. China is one of the big players and making enemy of China will cripple our exports and imports mainly oil palm. Think about the poor felda farmers. Do they know how many thousands of these families depend on the out put and export of this commodity? And do these morons know who are the biggest buyers of our oil palm? Not knowing all these facts they want to create sensation in the hope of getting attention from their president who is out of touch with our country's affairs but only worrying about his position 24/7. Grow up lah please before you ruin this country of ours. Anyway its too late and we do not know what will be the next step of China after hearing what had been going on with its ambassador. May be Najib had to go there to kiss China's PM's feet and beg for forgiveness for the stupidity of his followers. By the way UMNO with BN can say good by to being elected again come Ge14. Since its going to be the final term for BN we welcome you to enjoy your stay for now.

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Quote: "He urged Huang to explain, and also wanted Wisma Putra to take action."

Good. Agreed. I was wondering what took you so long.

You should also recruit the organizers of 'red shirt' rally to come together to demand stern action be taken against that misbehaving Chinese envoy.

Please urge your boss to not only expel that envoy from Malaysia, but also sever diplomatic relations with Beijing.

That will definitely make my day. I'll be deliriously happy, in fact!

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U mess with Chinese Malaysians, u mess with China.

When chaos happen. If we open it now, our relation with Southeast Asia is doomed.

Every country accepts immigrants from all over the place, I don't find any reason for China to be so anti-immigration.

 

[prima99]

Biggest Company in Indonesia

1 Astra International (ASII) 307,675,004 (7.46%) 9.20% Miscellaneous
2. HM Sampoerna (HMSP) 262,541,700 (6.36%) 23.30% Tobacco
3. Bank Central Asia (BBCA) 222,116,978 (5.38%) 8.34% Banking
4. Bank Mandiri (BMRI)¹ 187,110,000 (4.53%) 26.60% Banking
5. Telekomunikasi Indonesia (TLKM)¹ 182,447,993 (4.42%) 17.19% Telecom.
6. Bank Rakyat Indonesia (BBRI)¹ 169,736,169 (4.11%) 23.85% Banking
7. Unilever Indonesia (UNVR) 159,085,500 (3.85%) 16.23% Consumption
8. Perusahaan Gas Negara (PGAS)¹ 111,510,938 (2.70%) 30.86% Mining
9. Gudang Garam (GGRM) 108,326,154 (2.62%) –19.99% Tobacco
10. Semen Indonesia (SMGR)¹ 94,014,592 (2.28%) 23.48% Cement

¹ indicates a state-owned enterprise

Astra, Bank Central Asia and HM Sampoerna are own by Westerner (+Japanese/Astra)

This list doesnt count PT Pertamina (State Owned) which is not listed in Jakarta Stock Exchange.

PT Pertamina is the biggest one, this year it will invest about 25 billion USD.

Indonesia's Top Ten Companies Ranked by Largest Market Capitalization | Indonesia Investments

i know right. the other non-state owned companies are owned by Europeans, Americans, and the Non-Chinese locals.

it's foolish to think that Indonesia will go bankrupt just because some other Chinese-Supremacist says so, not looking at the facts first.

Let me quote some comments from what I have been reading in the news regarding all of this:

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Every country accepts immigrants from all over the place, I don't find any reason for China to be so anti-immigration.

it's more like population problem than anything else

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

Man how can I describe it. Few guys are even asking for Chinese military to place their naval vessels in Malacca as security!

 

[Indos]

@prima99

Man, dont make any provocative statement/ thread here...........

We better focus at our real life and just post "normal" thread/ statement in PDF

 

[prima99]

@prima99

Man, dont make any provocative statement/ thread here...........

We better focus at our real life and just post "normal" thread/ statement in PDF

am not really provocating anyone, just commonly retaliates in some statements that's discrediting/belittling our country. i cannot be anymore Pro than i am to my Homeland nonetheless.

Man how can I describe it. Few guys are even asking for Chinese military to place their naval vessels in Malacca as security!

unless those few guys are Malay Officials, i don't think anybody can do that. they need the approval from UK as well as SG and ID.

 

[Indos]

am not really provocating anyone, just commonly retaliates in some statements that's discrediting/belittling our country. i cannot be anymore Pro than i am to my Homeland nonetheless.

You sounds to make some "fight" with American/Japanese/Chinese........

Just see the pattern of Indonesian forumer here bro, dont make things become complicated.....

 

[prima99]

You sounds to make some "fight" with American/Japanese/Chinese........

Just see the pattern of Indonesian forumer here bro, dont make things become complicated.....

then don't blame me for their provocative post first. i do not start needless retaliations. i am also posting threads that is beneficial for both Indonesia and China, or Indonesia and Japan for example. it's just a personal retaliation against some trollific members, chillax.

 

[70U63]

Even without Chinese (I mean Malaysian Ethic Chinese), the country will not go bankrupt.
If we look at everything in racial point of view, almost everything is under control of Malay, including the richest company in the country, aka Petronas.
Just the political culture and the way of doing business, which is not efficient and heavily corrupted, just may be one day the thing couldn't be controlled as we hit the ceiling, just like those countries who couldn't pay their debt.
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If you don't understand the issue, better just don't comment.

Chinese government also interfered when Chinese in Indonesia were attacked couple of decades ago.

Basically the Chinese govt stand that they do not interfere in other countries internal matters is just BS, same as their any other matter of principal.

Example 1 - Borders drawn by Imperialists are not to be respected (except when it suits them)
Example 2 - Internal construction in disputed territories is not to be allowed (except when it suits them)

Basically the Chinese state has only 1 stand - they will bully anyone who can not stop them.

 

[prima99]

Even without Chinese (I mean Malaysian Ethic Chinese), the country will not go bankrupt.
If we look at everything in racial point of view, almost everything is under control of Malay, including the richest company in the country, aka Petronas.
Just the political culture and the way of doing business, which is not efficient and heavily corrupted, just may be one day the thing couldn't be controlled as we hit the ceiling, just like those countries who couldn't pay their debt.
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If you don't understand the issue, better just don't comment.

it is still plaguely corrupted even when the Chinese-malay were still present though.

i think you know the story about the uncle whos scammed by his chinese acquintances

we have some corrupt officials too, but KPK (Corruption Cleansing Commitee) has been created to tackle the issue. will malaysia offers death penalty for corruptors?

 

[Daniel808]

Biggest Company in Indonesia

3. Bank Central Asia (BBCA) 222,116,978 (5.38%) 8.34% Banking

Astra, Bank Central Asia and HM Sampoerna are own by Westerner (+Japanese/Astra)



[/B]

Bank Central Asia owned by Westerners?!!

The Biggest own Shareholders for Bank Central Asia is Bambang Hartono (Oei Hwei Siang)and Budi Hartono (Oei Hwei Tjong). They both is Chinese Indonesian.
Both is Son of the Founder of Djarum Group Company. (One of the Biggest Cigarette Producer in Indonesia)

They are not Westerners.
They are Chinese (Tionghoa)

I work in that Bank as Manager for Many years.

Don't make yourself so stup!d.
Don't embarrass yourself kid.

 

[70U63]

Unless the whole society want to change, if not it will be really hard.
We have the anti-corruption agency, but it is indirectly controlled by the government. The current government got all the money and power, nothing much normal people can do.
Death penalty wouldn't solve the issue, look at China (but of course they are actually doing something and see some results), while in Malaysia, talk shxt everyday.
I believe the country need to fail to a shxt stage before thing become better...

it is still plaguely corrupted even when the Chinese-malay were still present though.

i think you know the story about the uncle whos scammed by his chinese acquintances

we have some corrupt officials too, but KPK (Corruption Cleansing Commitee) has been created to tackle the issue. will malaysia offers death penalty for corruptors?

 

[Indos]

Bank Central Asia owned by Westerners?!!

The Biggest own Shareholders for Bank Central Asia is Bambang Hartono and Budi Hartono. They both is Chinese Indonesian.

They are not Westerners.
They are Chinese (Tionghoa)

I work in that Bank as Manager for Many years.

Don't make yourself so stup!d.
Don't embarrass yourself kid.

Stupid comment.

Yup. I check again I make a mistake there. Indonesian government save the bank ( become state owned and give it to those people after crisis with such a low price/ Megawati administration- it makes her lost power, she also sold Indosat/ state owned (number two after Telkom (state owned) in telecommunication sector) to Temasek/ Singapore.

 

[Beast]

nah we won't. the 1965 and 1998 massacres are the proofs.

Now is 2015, welcome to the future. China is 2nd largest economy, we have powerful fleet that can sail many CHinese marine to carry out large overseas deployment.

 

[prima99]

Unless the whole society want to change, if not it will be really hard.
We have the anti-corruption agency, but it is indirectly controlled by the government. The current government got all the money and power, nothing much normal people can do.
Death penalty wouldn't solve the issue, look at China (but of course they are actually doing something and see some results), while in Malaysia, talk shxt everyday.
I believe the country need to fail to a shxt stage before thing become better...

it would be next to impossible to change the society unless malaysia wants to adopt democracy than monarchy. how about assimilation? i mean intermarriage with Chinese and Malay so all the population will be consisting of Chinese-Malay peoples combined. this is how the ancient Palembang Sultanate were formed. overall Palembang People are of Chinese-Indonesian descent.

Now is 2015, welcome to the future. China is 2nd largest economy, we have powerful fleet that can sail many CHinese marine to carry out large overseas deployment.

so does the Western Bloc