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Even in the confinement instead of asking who brought him food and groceries and new DVDs , you are asking who brought him viagra...
Osama Dead. Obama Confirms.
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Even in the confinement instead of asking who brought him food and groceries and new DVDs , you are asking who brought him viagra...
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I'm Sorry if your analytical-sight is not working.. are you watching the International Media?
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I'm Sorry if your analytical-sight is not working.. are you watching the International Media?
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What is opposite to international media.. local media??/
which should be watched??? Please advice.
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What is opposite to international media.. local media??/
which should be watched??? Please advice.
Even in the confinement instead of asking who brought him food and groceries and new DVDs , you are asking who brought him viagra...
I bring the comedy
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oh,now i know why colonel qaddafi of libya had been dropping viagra crates on his soldiers..... Viagra has something to do with war against America
After all osama led a world wide network of anti american warriors only by the power of viagra...no phone no internet..as you say.
But not only the Americans but the overwhelming majority of people around the world and even Pakistan's own Foreign Office don't agree with you. But I know you people don't care what the rest of the world thinks, keep weaving your own theories that don't make an iota of sense.
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Yes I am.. But I am referring to an official statement from USA govt blaming Pakistan state or ISI for harboring Osama.. Short of that its all media and freedom of speech that fortunately or unfortunately requires no proof
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CNN: (right now 13:35) It seems that Pakistan DOES NOT goes against any terrorist which goes against USA
I think Pakistani's should bring their heads out from the place where the sun doesn't shine and tackle the situation in its initial stage.. I don't want this to go on and result in "confirmed truth" without any proof.. just like WMDs (continuous lies become truth and accepted)
Just my two cents..
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India had twice told US about Osama's likely presence close to Islamabad.
NEW DELHI: It now turns out that Indian agencies had twice warned their US counterparts about the presence of al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden in an urbanized and heavily populated area not very far from Islamabad – once in mid-2007 and again in early 2008 when they specifically mentioned his likely presence in a cantonment area. On both occasions, the Americans either did not take the Indian intelligence seriously or perhaps were too busy working on their own inputs about Osamas whereabouts.
The first time Indian security agencies gave this information to the US authorities was in mid-2007, soon after a Taliban meeting in Peshawar which was attended by Osamas No.2 Ayman al-Zawahiri. According to the information gathered by Indian intelligence operatives, this meeting was also attended by top leaders of Haqqani network and at least two ISI officials.
Days after the meeting, Zawahiri visited Islamabad as per the information available with Indian authorities and this formed the basis of Indias first input to the US about Osamas hideout. "The urgency with which Zawahiri visited Islamabad or the area in its vicinity suggested that he was there for some purpose. We told them about Zawahiri visiting Islamabad and we also told them that we believed Osama may not be hiding in caves but in a highly urbanized area somewhere near Islamabad. Of course, nobody had spotted him and it was a conclusion we drew on the basis of the information we got," said a top intelligence official involved in processing the information.
In the next six months, Indian operatives every now and then came up with information about movement of Osamas confidants in the region. The next definite input passed on to the US agencies by Indian officials was in early 2008 when there was specific mention made of his illness and his likely presence in a cantonment area. "This time we specifically mentioned about his presence in a cantonment area. It was because we had definite information that his movement was restricted owing to his illness and that it would have been impossible for him to go to an ordinary hospital. We told the Americans that only in a cantonment area could he be looked after by his ISI or other Pakistani benefactors," said the official.
While the US has officially maintained that Pakistani authorities were not informed about the operation till the American choppers left Pakistani airspace, India security officials take this with a pinch of salt. "The Americans might have that capability but we have no reason to rule out that the Pakistanis decided to turn him in because he was proving to be too much of a liability for them with no operational utility," an official said.
This has also raised doubts about the whereabouts of Zawahiri, now widely regarded as al-Qaidas supreme leader. In the past, he has been reported to be hiding somewhere in the Afghanistan-Pakistan border area.
India had twice told US about Osama's likely presence close to Islamabad - The Times of India
NEW DELHI: It now turns out that Indian agencies had twice warned their US counterparts about the presence of al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden in an urbanized and heavily populated area not very far from Islamabad – once in mid-2007 and again in early 2008 when they specifically mentioned his likely presence in a cantonment area. On both occasions, the Americans either did not take the Indian intelligence seriously or perhaps were too busy working on their own inputs about Osamas whereabouts.
The first time Indian security agencies gave this information to the US authorities was in mid-2007, soon after a Taliban meeting in Peshawar which was attended by Osamas No.2 Ayman al-Zawahiri. According to the information gathered by Indian intelligence operatives, this meeting was also attended by top leaders of Haqqani network and at least two ISI officials.
Days after the meeting, Zawahiri visited Islamabad as per the information available with Indian authorities and this formed the basis of Indias first input to the US about Osamas hideout. "The urgency with which Zawahiri visited Islamabad or the area in its vicinity suggested that he was there for some purpose. We told them about Zawahiri visiting Islamabad and we also told them that we believed Osama may not be hiding in caves but in a highly urbanized area somewhere near Islamabad. Of course, nobody had spotted him and it was a conclusion we drew on the basis of the information we got," said a top intelligence official involved in processing the information.
In the next six months, Indian operatives every now and then came up with information about movement of Osamas confidants in the region. The next definite input passed on to the US agencies by Indian officials was in early 2008 when there was specific mention made of his illness and his likely presence in a cantonment area. "This time we specifically mentioned about his presence in a cantonment area. It was because we had definite information that his movement was restricted owing to his illness and that it would have been impossible for him to go to an ordinary hospital. We told the Americans that only in a cantonment area could he be looked after by his ISI or other Pakistani benefactors," said the official.
While the US has officially maintained that Pakistani authorities were not informed about the operation till the American choppers left Pakistani airspace, India security officials take this with a pinch of salt. "The Americans might have that capability but we have no reason to rule out that the Pakistanis decided to turn him in because he was proving to be too much of a liability for them with no operational utility," an official said.
This has also raised doubts about the whereabouts of Zawahiri, now widely regarded as al-Qaidas supreme leader. In the past, he has been reported to be hiding somewhere in the Afghanistan-Pakistan border area.
India had twice told US about Osama's likely presence close to Islamabad - The Times of India
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Photoshop only takes 5 mins and there is no darth of such people. How inane for you to think that way.
Another gem of utter madness,
"PARIS: Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani said Wednesday that spy agencies around the world share the blame for his country’s failure to capture al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, killed by US forces."
"PARIS: Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani said Wednesday that spy agencies around the world share the blame for his country’s failure to capture al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, killed by US forces."
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Man, I appreciate your vigilance in noticing the discrepancy. But this info that BBC gives is not worth bullwaste.
Here's why:
1. No militant in this world is stupid enough to go back to hide at the same place that has been raided before.
2. No intelligence agency is stupid enough to take a hideout off the radar once it has been raided. In fact, the opposite happens in all the cases.
3. No one as rich and big as bin Laden is so dumb as to use an under construction building for a hideout. It is a strict no-no, unless it was bin Laden himself carrying the bricks and cements and doors and windows to construct it, and to avoid employing any builder/laborer who might recognize him. I doubt he was so skillful at building walls and putting down roofs.
4. The ISI official is unnamed, and I seriously doubt any ISI official would give out such a statement without authorization - There is no anonymity inside the intel agencies
5. Here's another piece on the BBC and many other news agencies which are all doing the silly guessing games all this while
So they are basically saying Obama watched it all, with Panetta's commentary in the background?
All this is nothing but guesses and false reporting by the news agencies trying to cash in on the moment. None of them are given and preferences by the US government, and they just busy blindly scrambling here and there.
And finally, I searched through all the news archives of 2003 pertaining to ISI raid inside Pakistan. Didn't find any relating to Abbottabad.
So yar, in the midst of all this chaos, I say we discard the unsubstantiated (unnamed ISI official) BBC theory, and go with the Pentagon version.
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The Weapons that Killed bin Laden
http://kitup.military.com/2011/05/the-weapons-that-killed-bin-laden.html?ESRC=sm_kitup.nl
http://kitup.military.com/2011/05/the-weapons-that-killed-bin-laden.html?ESRC=sm_kitup.nl
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