Opinionated - On how to DELETE Israel

[AlKardai]

Before the fall of Israel, the army of the black flag must rise, the temple must be built in Al-Aqsa's place and the Malhama will occur

 

[Beny Karachun]

Israel presence in Western mass media is overrated to his tiny size.

That's what I was always saying, if an alien were to read the news of our planet he would think Israel is some huge superpower that's just bombing everyone and everyone unites against just for the chance to take it out.

 

[Mr.Green]

That is no solution then. Israel has existed since 1948. As of 2020 there are 14.8 millions Jews there. How can you ask them to suddenly depart for Europe ? And what about the Christians and others ?

Like I asked, if a person like Muammar after spending years in armed activism against Israel can in year 2000 speak for peace through a single state solution called Isratin why you a Pakistani who has never involved himself in groups like PFLP or with Carlos the Jackal or the Japanese Red Army who either are Palestinian or were allied with them, you speak of deleting Israel, LOL ?

Maybe Qaddafi was getting old. I have a lot of respect for him but I have my own opinion which is based on feeling for the Ummah and not just Pakistan alone. Salahuddin was not an Arab or a Palestinian. But he defeated the Crusaders anyway. My thought is based on uniting the Leftists and the Islamists for a joint struggle. Afghani and Pakistani people defeated USA and USSR in Afghanistan. In Afghanistan they say that first the hunters chase the Lions then the lions will chase the hunter. They started their modern Crusade and destroyed Iraq, Syria, Libya and Afghanistan. Now the Muslims will chase the hunters back in their hiding holes. 9/11 was originated from Israel using gullible Al-Qaeda members. Now it is the turn of the Muslims to chase the Zionists.

 

[Beny Karachun]

It's one thing not hating the Jews and another understanding that many Jews are working against Christianity...

Jews aren't working against Christianity, Jews aren't a missionaire religion, we keep it to ourselves. Christians work against Judaism by trying to convert Jews into Christianity.

Some even call themselves "Messiahanic Jews" that basically means they're "Jews that believe Jesus is the Messiah" and that's just another way they try to disguise themselves as Jewish and try to lure Jews into Christianity.

We don't have any problem with Christians but we do have a problem with Christians that try to convert us, not that it even works.

9/11 was originated from Israel using gullible Al-Qaeda members. Now it is the turn of the Muslims to chase the Zionists.

Ah yes the usual "Muslims are never at fault it's always Israel's fault" argument

 

[Mr.Green]

 

[jamahir]

"Let him wear it". Yes, the progressive Muslims of then.

Nasser such a charming and charismatic man who was the inspiration for many in the world including Muslims then. My late father and I would speak about Nasser during my father's last years when he didn't start to become afflicted with dementia and Alzheimers. Many years ago a co-student in a computer institute had been named Jamal Abdul Nasser by his parents. That was years ago, this is the India of now :

Is the above not what Nasser abolished ? And he abolished the burqa because it is non-Islamic ( it is a pre-Islamic Jewish garment ) but also anti-Islam so the title of the vid "(Re)Islamization of Arabia" is wrong. Islam brought rights and rationality not this burqa obscenity. The uploader must learn more, he or she can read this post of mine.

Maybe Qaddafi was getting old. I have a lot of respect for him but I have my own opinion which is based on feeling for the Ummah and not just Pakistan alone.

A feeling of nicety from me that you have a lot of respect for Muammar but it wasn't him getting old that made him propose Isratin. It was him getting wiser. The Israel-Palestine is a pointless conflict as have been every one else.

You should go beyond being a Muslim and feeling for the Ummah and think of humanity.

Salahuddin was not an Arab or a Palestinian. But he defeated the Crusaders anyway.

Carlos the Jackal is a Venezuelan and the Japanese Red Army was Japanese and the German Red Army were Germans, none of them Arabs or Palestinians or Muslims yet they participated in the Palestinian struggle. Carlos is in a French jail for the last 28 years. He didn't think of the Ummah but of humanity, he being a Communist and you too say you are a Socialist - an Islamic Socialist but that is the same.

My thought is based on uniting the Leftists and the Islamists for a joint struggle. Afghani and Pakistani people defeated USA and USSR in Afghanistan. In Afghanistan they say that first the hunters chase the Lions then the lions will chase the hunter. They started their modern Crusade and destroyed Iraq, Syria, Libya and Afghanistan. Now the Muslims will chase the hunters back in their hiding holes. 9/11 was originated from Israel using gullible Al-Qaeda members. Now it is the turn of the Muslims to chase the Zionists.

1. Must say that is all contradictory. Also, those you call Islamists are the farthest from Islam. "Islamists" is a BBC term to defame Islam by associating it with the mullahs like Al Qaeda, "Muslim" Brotherhood, Khomenei, Taliban, Jemah Islamiyah etc who all were seeded by the owner of BBC - British government which in turn is part of NATO. Also, the anti-Islam mullahs in Gaza, Hamas, whom you will mistakenly call as "Islamists" were seeded by Israel government in the 1980s so that they could divide Palestinians into blocs and act as counter to the PLO which was composed of Communist and Socialists groups.

2. So Abdul Ahad Mohmand the cosmonaut was not Afghan but North Korean ?

3. About "Pakistani people defeating USSR in Afghanistan" that is again a myth spread by Zia ul Haq's NATO-seeded Tableeghis. Do you think all Pakistanis since 1947 have been anti-Communists and there has never been Communist and Socialist activism there ? Don't you know about Faiz Ahmed Faiz and his and his comrades' attempted takeover of governance of Pakistan in 1951, just four years after formation of Pakistan, which their establishment opponents called "Rawalpindi Conspiracy" ? Contrary to your idea about the Afghanistan war, in the 1980s the Indian prime minister Rajiv Gandhi was ready to bring back the NATO-propped-up Pakistani mullah dictator Zia ul Haq to power in case he was overthrown by Pakistani Communists and Socialists. Rajiv Gandhi wasn't really an admirer of the Tableeghi Zia but he didn't want USSR's political and military presence to spread from Pakistan's neighbor Afghanistan to flow into Pakistan and encourage Pakistan leftists to overthrow Zia ul Haq and those two countries become a base for South Asian Communists which could encourage Indian Communists and Socialists to seek to attain governance without the drama of five-yearly elections. So by Rajiv Gandhi bring Zia ul Haq back to power he wanted to see Pakistan as a buffer between India and Communist Afghanistan ( yes, Communist Afghanistan ). Below is from my thread from 2015 :

Sep 01, 2015

Washington: Contradicting perceived proximity to the Soviet Union in the Cold War era, India under the then Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi had toyed with the idea of supporting anti-Russian civilian groups in Pakistan if the then Zia regime was thrown out by Moscow, a recent declassified CIA document has claimed.

According to CIA documents of the era, which were recently declassified and posted on the CIA website under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), which is similar to India's Right to Information Act, Gandhi wanted non-interference from both the United States and the then USSR. "Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi would like both the USSR and the United States to end their involvement in South Asia," noted the 31-page CIA document titled 'The Soviet Presence in Afghanistan: Implications for the Regional Powers and the US'.

While taking note of the historic India-USSR relationship in particular in the defence field, the CIA report of April 1985 noted that India is likely to become increasingly concerned about long-range Soviet intentions in the region and could find itself moving towards confrontation with the Soviets if Pakistan was effectively neutralised.

"New Delhi regards Pakistan as a strategic buffer against the USSR and would oppose Moscow's effort to dominate Pakistan. New Delhi and Moscow would find themselves supporting rival factions within Pakistan," said the report, according to which Moscow had plans to change the regime in Pakistan and extend its influence beyond Afghanistan. In that case, the report said, "The Indians would seek to significantly reduce their dependence on Moscow and reorder their strategic relationship with the USSR, the United States and China if they perceived Soviet ambitions as extending beyond Afghanistan toward the subcontinent."

According to the report, the Soviets tried to heighten India's suspicion about Pakistan's intentions and its security relationship with the US in order to foster Indo-Pakistani tensions and heighten New Delhi’s dependence on Moscow. "In Soviet view, conflict between India and Pakistan would work toward solving Moscow's Afghan problem and would give Moscow opportunities to strengthen its position in South Asia," the report said.

"If (Gen) Zia (Ul Haq) regime were to fall, the Indians might try to prevent Soviet attempt to dominate Pakistan by supporting rival Pakistani political factions, Soviet military moves against an already neutralised Pakistan could even result in military confrontation with India," it added.

Six months later when Gandhi was planning to meet General Zia on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly meeting in New York, the CIA analyzed that the then Indian Prime Minister, despite his strong public views on Pakistan's nuclear weapons program, was unlikely to push him hard on it. "Gandhi is unlikely to push Zia hard about the Pakistani nuclear program, although he probably will at least mention his continuing concern," noted the top secret CIA document dated October 21, 1985.

"For his part, Zia is also likely to propose ideas on ways to improve the bilateral relationship. He may suggest regular high-level diplomatic talks in addition to the formal Joint Commission sessions that focuses on trade, communications and cultural exchanges," the report said. "Zia may also solicit Gandhi's views on whether as the Pakistanis believe the Soviets are becoming serious about a negotiated settlement in Afghanistan," it said

Ah yes the usual "Muslims are never at fault it's always Israel's fault" argument

You are right. There unfortunately are those so-called Muslims - the mullahs like Hamas - who become tools of Israel government and NATO to subvert, sabotage, assassinate and destroy progressive Muslims, movements and countries.

 

[Foinikas]

Iran will delete israel soon

Bro,you've been destroying Israel 20 years ago...

That is no solution then. Israel has existed since 1948. As of 2020 there are 14.8 millions Jews there.

The whole population is about 9-10 million people in total.

 

[Beny Karachun]

Bro,you've been destroying Israel 20 years ago...


The whole population is about 9-10 million people in total.

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Guess he meant to say there are 14.8 million Jews in the world, regardless of Israeli citizenship

 

[jamahir]

The whole population is about 9-10 million people in total.

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OK, thanks for the info.

Guess he meant to say there are 14.8 million Jews in the world, regardless of Israeli citizenship

Yeah, that must be what Google baba showed.

 

[MastanKhan]

On How to DELETE Israel

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Israel has territorial ambitions over Arab lands. Its Achilles heel is the Zionist plans of expansion. If it enters Syria, Lebanon or Jordan, it can be drawn into a long term guerrilla fight especially in the Syrian deserts or the Lebanese mountains or the Sinai. All the Arab countries and Iran as well as Russia will finance such guerrilla movements comprising Hezbollah, Sunni and Wahabi groups. If such a war continues for 10 years, Israel will lose its strength, will to fight, finances, American support and media favor. At that time the neighboring Arab states can easily attack and destroy Israel.

The same thing happened to USSR in Afghanistan and now to USA. Why do you think Russia annexed Crimea and now attacked Ukraine? the answer is simple. USA is now not in a position to do anything about it. USA is weakened thanks to Afghanistan.

The continuous insurgency will cause the recent European citizens of Israel to lose hope and go back to Europe.

The strategy has to be coupled with public pressure on multinationals and banks not to support Israel. In addition to that, a media campaign should be launched in US and UK to turn the public opinion against Israel and make it loose its financial and military support.

Hi,

Children should not indulge in world affairs that are beyond their grasp and comprehension.

 

[BHAN85]

It's one thing not hating the Jews and another understanding that many Jews are working against Christianity...

Christianity is a Jewish people creation, without Jewish people christianity can't never existed.

And that is strictly talking in a atheist way, but if someone take as true Christians sacred books, then Jewish people is the chosen people and Israel the future center of world ruling in paradise with God over the Earth, the new Jerusalem.

But evilness and stupidity of some Christian nutjobs in last hundreds years has no limits.

You'll never see Jewish religion doing disgusting things due to his beliefs like Christians and other Abrahamic religions did in mankind history, like the "Holy Inquisition".

 

[Foinikas]

And that is strictly talking in a atheist way, but if someone take as true Christians sacred books, then Jewish people is the chosen people and Israel the future center of world ruling in paradise with God over the Earth, the new Jerusalem.

Let me show you something:

These are the little-known words of the Ever-Memorable Seraphim, Archbishop of Chicago and Detroit, writing in 1959 in The Destinies of Russia:

"Recently during my first pilgrimage to Palestine, the Lord made me, a sinner, worthy to discover new and hitherto unknown prophecies which cast new light on the destiny of Russia. These prophecies were revealed 'by chance' to the learned Russian monk Fr Antony of St Sabbas monastery, near Jerusalem. He discovered them in ancient Greek manuscripts. They are written by unknown Fathers of the eighth and ninth centuries i.e. contemporaries of St John Damascene, and these prophecies are couched in the following terms:

'After the chosen people of the Jews gave up their Messiah and Redeemer to torment and a shameful death, they were no longer counted a chosen people and this honour passed to the Greeks, a second chosen people.

The searching and inquisitive mind of the Ancient Greeks was enlightened by Christianity and penetrated to the very depths of knowledge. The great Eastern Church Fathers defined the Christian dogmas and created the harmonious system of Christian teaching. This is the great merit of the Greek people. However, the Roman State (Byzantium) is not creative or strong enough to build up a harmonious political and social life on a solid Christian foundation. The sceptre of the Orthodox Empire will fall from the weak hands of the Emperors of Constantinople who are unable to achieve symphony and concord between Church and State.

For this reason the Lord through His Providence shall send a third chosen people to succeed the spiritually weakened Greeks. This people will appear in the North within 100-200 years (these prophecies were set down in Palestine 150-200 years before the Baptism of the Russian people), and will become Christian wholeheartedly. They will strive to live according to the commandments of Christ and will seek first the Kingdom of God and His Righteousness, as Christ Our Saviour showed us. The Lord God will love this people for their zeal and will add unto them all other things - huge territories, riches, a mighty and glorious State.

At various times this great people will fall into sin and for this will be chastised through considerable trials. In about a thousand years this people, chosen by God, will falter in its Faith and its standing for the Truth of Christ. It will become proud of its earthly might and glory, will cease to seek the Kingdom and will want paradise not in Heaven but on this sinful Earth.

However not all this people will tread this broad and pernicious path, though a substantial majority will, especially its governing class. On account of this great fall, a terrible fiery trial will be sent from on high to this people which will despise the ways of God. Rivers of blood shall flow across their land, brother shall slay brother, more than once famine shall visit the land and gather its dread harvest, nearly all the churches and other holy places shall be destroyed or suffer sacrilege, many shall perish.

A part of this people, rejecting iniquity and untruth, will pass over the borders of their homeland and will be dispersed like unto the people of the Jews all over the world. 4 Nevertheless the Lord will not show His wrath on them to the uttermost. The blood of thousands of martyrs will cry to the heavens for mercy. A spirit of sobriety will grow among this chosen people and they will return to God. At last this period of cleansing trial, appointed by the Righteous Judge, will come to an end, and once more Holy Orthodoxy will shine forth and those northern lands will be resplendent with the brightness of a faith reborn.

This wonderful light of Christ will shine forth from there and enlighten all the peoples of the earth. This will be helped by that part of the people providentially sent ahead into the diaspora, who will create centres of Orthodoxy - churches of God all over the world.

Christianity will then be revealed in all its heavenly beauty and fullness. Most of the peoples of the world will become Christian. And for a time a period of peace, prosperity and Christian living will come to the whole world ...

And then? Then, when the fullness of time has come, a great decline in faith will begin and everything foretold in the Holy Scriptures will occur, Antichrist will appear and the world will end.'

These prophecies are set forth in various manuscripts with variants, but basically they all agree.

I would remind readers that these prophecies were found in authentic Greek manuscripts of the eighth and ninth centuries when nobody had ever heard of Russia as a State and the Russian plains were settled by more or less savage, warring Slavic tribes and other peoples.

 

[SQ8]

This talk should be done after you’ve passed puberty

Let me show you something:

These are the little-known words of the Ever-Memorable Seraphim, Archbishop of Chicago and Detroit, writing in 1959 in The Destinies of Russia:

"Recently during my first pilgrimage to Palestine, the Lord made me, a sinner, worthy to discover new and hitherto unknown prophecies which cast new light on the destiny of Russia. These prophecies were revealed 'by chance' to the learned Russian monk Fr Antony of St Sabbas monastery, near Jerusalem. He discovered them in ancient Greek manuscripts. They are written by unknown Fathers of the eighth and ninth centuries i.e. contemporaries of St John Damascene, and these prophecies are couched in the following terms:

'After the chosen people of the Jews gave up their Messiah and Redeemer to torment and a shameful death, they were no longer counted a chosen people and this honour passed to the Greeks, a second chosen people.

The searching and inquisitive mind of the Ancient Greeks was enlightened by Christianity and penetrated to the very depths of knowledge. The great Eastern Church Fathers defined the Christian dogmas and created the harmonious system of Christian teaching. This is the great merit of the Greek people. However, the Roman State (Byzantium) is not creative or strong enough to build up a harmonious political and social life on a solid Christian foundation. The sceptre of the Orthodox Empire will fall from the weak hands of the Emperors of Constantinople who are unable to achieve symphony and concord between Church and State.

For this reason the Lord through His Providence shall send a third chosen people to succeed the spiritually weakened Greeks. This people will appear in the North within 100-200 years (these prophecies were set down in Palestine 150-200 years before the Baptism of the Russian people), and will become Christian wholeheartedly. They will strive to live according to the commandments of Christ and will seek first the Kingdom of God and His Righteousness, as Christ Our Saviour showed us. The Lord God will love this people for their zeal and will add unto them all other things - huge territories, riches, a mighty and glorious State.

At various times this great people will fall into sin and for this will be chastised through considerable trials. In about a thousand years this people, chosen by God, will falter in its Faith and its standing for the Truth of Christ. It will become proud of its earthly might and glory, will cease to seek the Kingdom and will want paradise not in Heaven but on this sinful Earth.

However not all this people will tread this broad and pernicious path, though a substantial majority will, especially its governing class. On account of this great fall, a terrible fiery trial will be sent from on high to this people which will despise the ways of God. Rivers of blood shall flow across their land, brother shall slay brother, more than once famine shall visit the land and gather its dread harvest, nearly all the churches and other holy places shall be destroyed or suffer sacrilege, many shall perish.

A part of this people, rejecting iniquity and untruth, will pass over the borders of their homeland and will be dispersed like unto the people of the Jews all over the world. 4 Nevertheless the Lord will not show His wrath on them to the uttermost. The blood of thousands of martyrs will cry to the heavens for mercy. A spirit of sobriety will grow among this chosen people and they will return to God. At last this period of cleansing trial, appointed by the Righteous Judge, will come to an end, and once more Holy Orthodoxy will shine forth and those northern lands will be resplendent with the brightness of a faith reborn.

This wonderful light of Christ will shine forth from there and enlighten all the peoples of the earth. This will be helped by that part of the people providentially sent ahead into the diaspora, who will create centres of Orthodoxy - churches of God all over the world.

Christianity will then be revealed in all its heavenly beauty and fullness. Most of the peoples of the world will become Christian. And for a time a period of peace, prosperity and Christian living will come to the whole world ...

And then? Then, when the fullness of time has come, a great decline in faith will begin and everything foretold in the Holy Scriptures will occur, Antichrist will appear and the world will end.'

These prophecies are set forth in various manuscripts with variants, but basically they all agree.

I would remind readers that these prophecies were found in authentic Greek manuscripts of the eighth and ninth centuries when nobody had ever heard of Russia as a State and the Russian plains were settled by more or less savage, warring Slavic tribes and other peoples.

Not to get into that debate but if you replace Christianity with Islam in that narrative - but keep the return of christ it is the muslim eschatology view of end of times.

I always laugh when Christians ask me “Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior “ and I tell them , “Probably not my lord but definitely as my savior messiah - I am awaiting his return more than you are.

 

[Cthulhu]

Right click on it and select "Delete".

 

[MastanKhan]

Christianity is a Jewish people creation, without Jewish people christianity can't never existed.

And that is strictly talking in a atheist way, but if someone take as true Christians sacred books, then Jewish people is the chosen people and Israel the future center of world ruling in paradise with God over the Earth, the new Jerusalem.

But evilness and stupidity of some Christian nutjobs in last hundreds years has no limits.

You'll never see Jewish religion doing disgusting things due to his beliefs like Christians and other Abrahamic religions did in mankind history, like the "Holy Inquisition".

Hi,

If the jews were as large a military force as the christians or the muslims of that time---they would have left these two religion behind in atrocities committed.