Opinionated - How India can "checkmate" China in a week if war breaks out

[White and Green with M/S]

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HAL’s R&D wing launches upgrade programme for MiG-29K

🔴 The upgrade programme involves integration of indigenous mission computers, laser pods, indigenous air-to-air and air-to-ground weapons.

indianexpress.com

what is purpose of this post Trolling???

 

[punch2000]

what is purpose of this post Trolling???

No I'm showing you the capabilities of
VL-SRSAM which is conceived for area and point-defence role to save naval platforms from Chinese cruise/ballistic missiles

 

[IblinI]

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Stopped taking your daily dose from BJP source, if you can do a basic Google reverse image, you'll know that is from the Korean war.
@waz @LeGenD

 

[White and Green with M/S]

No I'm showing you the capabilities of
VL-SRSAM which is conceived for area and point-defence role to save naval platforms from Chinese cruise/ballistic missiles

and Chinese also have similar systems far better than yours

 

[punch2000]

and Chinese also have similar systems far better than yours

Ok...

 

[K_Bin_W]

Pakis should refrain from commenting about history... it's damn funny man

Ah.. look who is talking....

 

[Tornado23]

Pakis should refrain from commenting about history... it's damn funny man

Mian channu incident revealed nothing about Pakistans AD capabilities except that we can monitor the launch from within india.

Thats like saying the ~10km incursion the PAF did into IIOJK after 27th of feb showed up your AD capabilities as you did nothing to track or intercept the air craft.

This is merely a fallacy you made as a feel good moment, knowing deep down you messed up wrt that incident

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

And how's it possible? Can you explain it a little bit more


But mountain warfare is a different ball game where you have nil experience

Indian Army's 'Mountain Division' The Best In World - Chinese Experts Admit

Indian Army has the world’s most competent mountain division trained for high-altitude warfare, a Chinese military expert has acknowledged adding that mountaineering is an “essential skill” for each Indian soldier deployed in the mountains. Meet Ladakh Scouts – The Snow Warriors Deployed On...

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your map gives you a false sense of confidence because it doesn't include bases in Xinjiang or Sichuan. also, having airbases on the border is not an advantage, it is a disadvantage. PLA will be hammering your bases with ballistic and cruise missiles because you built them so conveniently close to Chinese borders. China has 2000+ SRBMs alone with ~500-1000 km range that can all launch from cover far outside IAF's range but easily reaching all those bases.

Hotan airbase is 200 km from Ladakh which is itself just 500 km from Kashgar airbase. your own satellites saw dozens of planes massing there in 2020. Then AP in Northeast is just 600 km from Lijiang and Mengzi airbases in Yunnan.

with a network of bases throughout China, PLAAF planes throughout the country can fly to bases outside Indian ground based missile reach but within fighter CAP range (like aforementioned bases).

India only has Nirbhay, a subsonic missile deployed in limited numbers, and Shaurya, which is sophisticated but still limited numbers. And Nirbhay has to climb in altitude to reach anything in China, shortening its range and making it easily visible to radars in Tibet.

you also can't choke China's oil without declaring war on entire Southeast Asia, because there's no way to identify what tanker is carrying Chinese oil. China can also just pay extra money for ships to carry oil through the Panama Canal for African, Brazilian oil, and with pipelines with Russian oil. India can't intercept that oil nor outbid China with foreign reserves.

Meanwhile crude oil is useless without refining. Every Indian refinery, of which there are only 30, is within PLARF attack range, not a single Chinese refinery is within Indian range.

 

[punch2000]

Thats like saying the ~10km incursion the PAF did into IIOJK after 27th of feb showed up your AD capabilities as you did nothing to track or intercept the air craft.

This is merely a fallacy you made as a feel good moment, knowing deep down you messed up wrt that incident

10 km incursion into the territory of J&K? Any source/link to validate your claim?
By the way, what was your airforce doing when IAF penetrated 80 km deep into your airspace ? After bombing balakot with pgms, our fighter jets returned to their home base without even getting a single scratch on its back

your map gives you a false sense of confidence because it doesn't include bases in Xinjiang or Sichuan. also, having airbases on the border is not an advantage, it is a disadvantage. PLA will be hammering your bases with ballistic and cruise missiles because you built them so conveniently close to Chinese borders. China has 2000+ SRBMs alone with ~500-1000 km range that can all launch from cover far outside IAF's range but easily reaching all those bases.

Hotan airbase is 200 km from Ladakh which is itself just 500 km from Kashgar airbase. your own satellites saw dozens of planes massing there in 2020. Then AP in Northeast is just 600 km from Lijiang and Mengzi airbases in Yunnan.

with a network of bases throughout China, PLAAF planes throughout the country can fly to bases outside Indian ground based missile reach but within fighter CAP range (like aforementioned bases).

India only has Nirbhay, a subsonic missile deployed in limited numbers, and Shaurya, which is sophisticated but still limited numbers. And Nirbhay has to climb in altitude to reach anything in China, shortening its range and making it easily visible to radars in Tibet.

you also can't choke China's oil without declaring war on entire Southeast Asia, because there's no way to identify what tanker is carrying Chinese oil. China can also just pay extra money for ships to carry oil through the Panama Canal for African, Brazilian oil, and with pipelines with Russian oil. India can't intercept that oil nor outbid China with foreign reserves.

Meanwhile crude oil is useless without refining. Every Indian refinery, of which there are only 30, is within PLARF attack range, not a single Chinese refinery is within Indian range.

What are the CEPs of your cruise/ballistic missiles?
Whether indian missiles are deployed in limited or unlimited nos, is only known by strategic forces command /GOI

 

[jamahir]

And then they will learn their lesson.

Jai Hind!

I thought you Hindutvadis say "Bharat Mata ki Jai".

 

[punch2000]

you also can't choke China's oil without declaring war on entire Southeast Asia, because there's no way to identify what tanker is carrying Chinese oil. China can also just pay extra money for ships to carry oil through the Panama Canal for AfricaBrazilian oil, and with pipelines with Russian oil. India can't intercept that oil nor outbid China with foreign reserveseanwhile crude oil is useless without refining. Every Indian refinery, of which there are only 30, is within PLARF attack range, not a single Chinese refinery is within Indian range.

But entire SE Asian countries hates you...most probably in case of war they'd stay neutral or support . More than 90 percent of China's imported crude oil volumes flowing through the South China Sea transited the Strait of Malacca. The Strait of Malacca is the shortest sea route between the Middle East and East Asia, helping to reduce the time and cost of transportation among Asia, the Middle East and Europe. Its strategic location makes it a vital waterway for hydrocarbon, container and bulk cargo shipment.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

10 km incursion into the territory of J&K? Any source/link to validate your claim?
By the way, what was your airforce doing when IAF penetrated 80 km deep into your airspace ? After bombing balakot with pgms, our fighter jets returned to their home base without even getting a single scratch on its back


What are the CEPs of your cruise/ballistic missiles?
Whether indian missiles are deployed in limited or unlimited nos, is only known by strategic forces command /GOI

Anyone can just say a number. The number PLA says is 10 m for CJ-10 and DF-21.

CJ-10 (missile) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

DF-21 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

But verbally saying a number doesn't mean much. Here's the proof that it actually is <10 m.

Note that the lateral dimensions of the target is ~40x80 m (width at waterline of Nimitz carrier is 40m, aspect ratio of target is 2:1), and the distance from centerline is <10 m by pixels.

 

[punch2000]

your map gives you a false sense of confidence because it doesn't include bases in Xinjiang or Sichuan. also, having airbases on the border is not an advantage, it is a disadvantage. PLA will be hammering your bases with ballistic and cruise missiles because you built them so conveniently close to Chinese borders. China has 2000+ SRBMs alone with ~500-1000 km range that can all launch from cover far outside IAF's range but easily reaching all those bases.

Hotan airbase is 200 km from Ladakh which is itself just 500 km from Kashgar airbase. your own satellites saw dozens of planes massing there in 2020. Then AP in Northeast is just 600 km from Lijiang and Mengzi airbases in Yunnan.

with a network of bases throughout China, PLAAF planes throughout the country can fly to bases outside Indian ground based missile reach but within fighter CAP range (like aforementioned bases).

India only has Nirbhay, a subsonic missile deployed in limited numbers, and Shaurya, which is sophisticated but still limited numbers. And Nirbhay has to climb in altitude to reach anything in China, shortening its range and making it easily visible to radars in Tibet.

you also can't choke China's oil without declaring war on entire Southeast Asia, because there's no way to identify what tanker is carrying Chinese oil. China can also just pay extra money for ships to carry oil through the Panama Canal for African, Brazilian oil, and with pipelines with Russian oil. India can't intercept that oil nor outbid China with foreign reserves.

Meanwhile crude oil is useless without refining. Every Indian refinery, of which there are only 30, is within PLARF attack range, not a single Chinese refinery is within Indian range.

India's Latest Agni-P Ballistic Missile Sparks A Fierce Debate Between Chinese & Indian Experts

The Agni-Prime ballistic missile is the latest addition to India’s growing nuclear arsenal.

eurasiantimes.com

EXPLAINED: The Pralay Missile And Its Quasi Ballistic Trajectory - News18

A surface-to-surface missile, Pralay was tested on successive days and satisfied all the trial parameters

www.google.com

BrahMos missile's air-launched version to hit targets 800 km away: Sources

The air-launched version of the BrahMos missile will be capable of reaching targets up to 800 kilometres away, sources said on Sunday.

www.google.com

Agni-5 ICBM: Why India’s Conventional ‘Fire Breathing’ Ballistic Missile Should Worry Beijing Despite Its Hypersonic Arsenal?

With the Agni-5 missile, India has bolstered its nuclear deterrence by testing Agni series of ballistic missiles at a time when China is scaling up its hypersonic programs.

www.google.com

Anyone can just say a number. The number PLA says is 10 m for CJ-10 and DF-21.

CJ-10 (missile) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

DF-21 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

But verbally saying a number doesn't mean much. Here's the proof that it actually is <10 m.

Would be intercepted by Indian BMD system, S-400, MRSAM (Barak-8), Akash SAM, Spyder and QRSAM
Ballistic Missile Defense (BMD) Radar - Swordfish
- Mother of all radars
- Indian derivative of Israeli Green Pine radar (EL/M-2080) which forms part of its Arrow BMD system. https://t.co/kbXAzP8u16

Swordfish Long Range Tracking Radar - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

But entire SE Asian countries hates you...most probably in case of war they'd stay neutral or support . More than 90 percent of China's imported crude oil volumes flowing through the South China Sea transited the Strait of Malacca. The Strait of Malacca is the shortest sea route between the Middle East and East Asia, helping to reduce the time and cost of transportation among Asia, the Middle East and Europe. Its strategic location makes it a vital waterway for hydrocarbon, container and bulk cargo shipment.

I don't think you understand the simple fact: you can't identify where an oil tanker is going. very few oil tanker uses the national flag. they all use 3rd country flags of convenience and are typically owned by 3rd country companies.

the only way to do so is to search the oil tanker. that means Indian Navy has to identify, board and stop the oil tankers. Indian Navy does not have the capability to do this for every oil tanker. China can also pay oil tanker companies extra money to route around South America if need be. China has sufficient foreign reserves to do this. India can't stop this from occurring.

and that's assuming PLAN doesn't even fight Indian Navy. In reality, PLAN just loaded 1000+ km hypersonic missiles on 055s which can now shoot at Indian Navy ships from the South China Sea.

India's Latest Agni-P Ballistic Missile Sparks A Fierce Debate Between Chinese & Indian Experts

The Agni-Prime ballistic missile is the latest addition to India’s growing nuclear arsenal.

eurasiantimes.com

EXPLAINED: The Pralay Missile And Its Quasi Ballistic Trajectory - News18

A surface-to-surface missile, Pralay was tested on successive days and satisfied all the trial parameters

www.google.com

BrahMos missile's air-launched version to hit targets 800 km away: Sources

The air-launched version of the BrahMos missile will be capable of reaching targets up to 800 kilometres away, sources said on Sunday.

www.google.com

Agni-5 ICBM: Why India’s Conventional ‘Fire Breathing’ Ballistic Missile Should Worry Beijing Despite Its Hypersonic Arsenal?

With the Agni-5 missile, India has bolstered its nuclear deterrence by testing Agni series of ballistic missiles at a time when China is scaling up its hypersonic programs.

www.google.com

Would be intercepted by Indian BMD system, S-400, MRSAM (Barak-8), Akash SAM, Spyder and QRSAM
Ballistic Missile Defense (BMD) Radar - Swordfish
- Mother of all radars
- Indian derivative of Israeli Green Pine radar (EL/M-2080) which forms part of its Arrow BMD system. https://t.co/kbXAzP8u16

Swordfish Long Range Tracking Radar - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

India does not have the capability to intercept them lmao even Russia has trouble intercepting 1980's Tochka-Us in Ukraine with 100 km range, and it manufactures the S-400. India doesn't manufacture the S-400 and is going up against much more capable and numerous missiles than 1980's SRBMs.

I'm not arguing with you, btw. I'm just letting the neutral audience know and understand the facts.

 

[IblinI]

Mr punch and samar111 can be the best buddy in the school.