Opinionated - How India can "checkmate" China in a week if war breaks out

[Bilal9]

How is this dumpster fire of a thread still ongoing? If India is so confident it can wipe the floor with China on the battlefield, just launch your special military operation already and get it over with, no need to brag on a Pakistani forum about how you'll do it.

Heavy Tanks like the Arjun may have issues operating in rarified higher elevation battlefields in Tibetan plateau (unless they modify the engines with superchargers which will be quite expensive). I know China modified some light tanks to operate there. Those are probably similar to the VT-5's Bangladesh got recently.

In any case - getting these 80+ ton Arjun tanks to the Tibet battlefields themselves are a logical nightmare for India. And this is not a tank battle scenario. Defensively in the Indian plains, India can probably hold its own....

@Joe Shearer dada am I too far off the mark?

Why are you trying so hard to impress us with all these building pictures?

Because he is 14 and just learned to copy/paste.

It's okay, whatever soothes the soul....

Buddy boy never visited Shenzhen. The Chinese brothers won't do it, so I should show him. And pictures are nothing, he should visit, even if he didn't like the Chinese. Take some lessons. BTW none of this existed twenty years ago....

 

[Corax]

Heavy Tanks like the Arjun may have issues operating in rarified higher elevation battlefields in Tibetan plateau (unless they modify the engines with superchargers which will be quite expensive). I know China modified some light tanks to operate there. Those are probably similar to the VT-5's Bangladesh got recently.

In any case - getting these 80+ ton Arjun tanks to the Tibet battlefields themselves are a logical nightmare for India. And this is not a tank battle scenario. Defensively in the Indian plains, India can probably hold its own....

@Joe Shearer dada am I too far off the mark?

Don't use logic, reason, and common sense, it will only offend the injiun military planners.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Yes you read that right. You are surprised?

China has a big weakness nobody seems to be talking about. Before we talk about that let us do a small military comparision.

As you can see China is superior to India in almost every category except tanks and artillery. But in this scenario China is attacking India. India only has to defend itself. Now we can talk about China's biggest weakness:

Geography

We are going to divide the war into land, sea and air theatres. We start with discussing a land war between Indian army and PLA. No need to mention manpower because its the same.

Land warfare- India vs China

The fact that China has 35000 armoured vehicles and India only 12000 does not mean anything considering the geograpgy. The border is spread out 100s of kilometers of rocky, inhospitable, monstrously huge himalayas with narrow bases.

The first thing we can do is to destroy bridges, turn all weather roads to ashes and block strategic mountain passes. When this done China has no hope of advancing.

Air warfare- India vs China

Fanboys will be talking about superior chinese quantity and quality, but what about logistics? Take a look:

PLAAF only has 5 large airbases in Tibet and 2 in Xinjiang. Meanwhile we have 20 bases with flight range of the LAC. The majority of the 3000 PLAAF aircraft are on the eastern side. 3500 km away from where the action will be happening.

This would mean mid-air refueling. It would longer time to respond to Indian attack. Should I also mention that we would be able to track them before they reach war theater?

There is yet another logistic problem. Cargo weight....

Indian airbases with the exception of a few are the on the plains.

The airbases in Tibet are at an altitude of 4000m above sea level.

The lower air density at such high altitudes hampers jet engines and limits the amount of Weapons and fuel military aircraft can carry while still being able to take off.

Meteorological conditions across the Tibetan Plateau, moreover, are unpredictable, making it difficult to plan high-intensity air campaigns.

In short, the PLAAF cannot hope to run a Sustained air campaign.

Sea warfare- India vs China

This one is very interesting. China has the largest navy in the world. We are massively outclasses in both quantity and quality. Look at the submarine ratio or destroyer ratio.

But again the poor chinese have a geography problem.

We are talking about the choke point in strait of malacca

If the Chinese navy entered the Indian ocean region with the goal of engaging the Indian navy, they would have to come through this strait. The channel is very narrow. Only 2 km at its narrowest point. It would be difficult for the Chinese to send naval assets since Indian navy is going to guard the entrance via Indira port.

What do fighter jets, tanks and warship run on? Oil.... 80% of China's oil is imported through the straict of malacca. A naval blockade would bring a oil crisis in China.

This is why i said that China can be checkmated in a week by India.

CCP can push all they want, but they will meet strong resistance and retaliation from the Indian Army, Airforce and Navy.

And then they will learn their lesson.

Jai Hind!

Very simple indeed...Just ask your armed forces go to border along with China removes their pants and bend over.

 

[johncliu88]

Very simple indeed...Just ask your armed forces go to border along with China removes their pants and bend over.

And also, they need better knee pads for each soldier before packing anything.

 

[Maarkhoor]

And also, they need better knee pads for each soldier before packing anything.

And must not forget some good lubricant

 

[DF41]

I fail to understand.

First something written to refresh memories




What day dreaming the Americans are capable of!



Should pushing turn to real shoving , there will be no air bases in Japan or Guan or Okinawa for anything to take off from .


But nothing west of the 2nd Island Chain withing 10 minutes of war starting


Missile Strikes on U.S. Bases in Asia: Is This China's Real Threat to America?




In the first 10++ minutes, all the bases in Japan , Okinawa and Guam will be cratered and hit by the DongFangs with conventional warheads ensuring their planes cannot take off.

Missile Strikes on U.S. Bases in Asia: Is This China's Real Threat to America?

Shugart and Gonzalez also point out that the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) has carried out drills simulating preemptive attacks against America’s regional military assets. In one such instance, the PLA Rocket Forces “appears to have been practicing on several ship targets of a similar size to U.S. Arleigh Burke –class destroyers moored in a mock port that is a near-mirror image of the actual inner harbor at the U.S. naval base in Yokosuka.” This is illuminating, the authors note, because the only way the Chinese military could catch three U.S. ships in port is if they conducted a complete surprise attack.
After reviewing Chinese capabilities and doctrines, the authors try to simulate such an attack to judge its effectiveness. Interestingly, while they believe China would strike U.S. bases in Japan and even some Japanese forces, they assume Beijing would avoid attacks on Korea “in order to prevent a distracting second front on the Korean Peninsula while pursuing its primary military goals elsewhere.” In their simulation, they also assume that Beijing would not initially target America’s base at Guam since it is U.S. territory and China would want to prevent an escalation that could result in America bombing mainland China.
Shugart and Gonzales run two different models of a simulated preemptive attack, keeping in mind what they know about U.S. and allied missile defense systems in the region. In both models, “enough ballistic missiles seemed likely to leak through to cause highly significant damage to U.S. bases and forces in the region.” Some of the results of the attacks include:
• “Almost every major fixed headquarters and logistical facility struck, with key headquarters struck within the first few minutes of the conflict.”
• “Almost every U.S. ship in port in Japan struck pierside by ballistic missiles.”
• “In most cases, cratering by ballistic missiles of every runway and runway-length taxiway at all major U.S. air bases in Japan.”
• “As a result of runway cratering, headquarters destruction, and air defense degradation, more than 200 trapped U.S. aircraft destroyed on the ground in the first hours of the conflict.”
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Then Chinese cruise missiles will fly in their thousands to take out what not taken out military assets in that first 10++ minutes.

Chinese AShMs will burn and incinerate Japanese and USA Naval assets.


During that time, Japanese command centers will blown up killing all those inside.


See the photos of test sites in Western China of dummy airfields and plane shelters of air and naval bases in Japan being hit so accurately by DFs.

First Strike: China's Missile Threat to U.S. Bases in Asia

By your own Western military experts. Even if they underestimated the numbers of DFs and Cruise Missiles of China in their reports.

The same way they thought China has only 260 nukes.

The same way Dugout Doug thought no Chinese at all in Korea until Chinese appeared in the hundreds of thousands right within USA and UN troops!

First Strike: China's Missile Threat to U.S. Bases in Asia

And then all US air bases and naval bases in Japan and Guam and Diego Garcia and Singapore be rendered inoperational within 10 minutes.

And all assets in the air bases and naval bases hit and destroyed within the next 30 minutes.

All the USA JSTARS and tankers be in flames within an hour.

All carriers within the 3rd Island Chain be burning from end to end.

USA so convinced of that as reality that they moved all their B52s and B1s B2s out of Guam.

And building backups frantically at Tinian . Not as those be immuned .

Probably after DFs hit those airbases naval bases within 10 minutes, the follow up by cruise missiles to do total clean up.

The broom China be using for that clean up might be SKY THUNDER, or the grandsons of SKY THUNDER as SKY THUNDER was in 2020.

The Sky Thunder stand-off weapons dispenser and loiter munitions.

China Shows Off Its New Airfield-Killing Glide Bomb

The U.S. built a weapon just like it decades ago.

www.popularmechanics.com

Standoff weapons include missiles and bombs that can be released by a jet plane a distance away from the target. This provides less risk for the jet plane and the pilot. The Indian Airforce used SPICE glide bombs (an Israeli standoff weapon) in their famous air strike against terrorist camps in Pakistan earlier this year.

Loiter munitions are "powered" munitions that can 'hang around' in the air longer after they have been released from a plane. They are also called drone weapons.

The Chinese have gone another step ahead. The Chinese have developed a weapons dispenser or weapons canister that can carry up to 240 bomblets which can be released first. Meaning the entire weapons dispenser can fly hundreds of kilometers on its own after release from the plane. (Glide yes or maybe "powered" - the Chinese are not saying). Then once the weapons dispenser reaches the target it will release the munitions which can also fly for some distances on their own. By this time the jet plane and its pilot have safely moved on to another target or turned back.

The munitions themselves could be bomblets or loiter munitions which can take out different targets spread out over an area. What this means is that one pilot and one jet plane becomes a huge force multiplier.

USA so frightened and shitting in their pants that USA moved even further back , almost to Pearl Harbour

Major Airfield Expansion On Wake Island Seen By Satellite As U.S. Preps For Pacific Fight

America's remote island outpost in the Pacific is an essential fallback point for pushing airpower west during a major conflict.

www.thedrive.com

India truly cannot imagine all the above happening to their air bases and naval bases and command centers in India?
Which are nearer to reach of Chinese missiles than those in the 2nd island chain.

When DF26 can reach and touch Diego Garcia and make that into fragments of memories, which base in India will be out of reach?

Followed by SKY THUNDER by the hundreds loaded with very smart AI drones to do the needful to India within the next 30 to 40 minutes



CHECKMATE OF CHINA IN A WEEK IF WAR BREAKS OUT

 

[Samar111]

How is this dumpster fire of a thread still ongoing? If India is so confident it can wipe the floor with China on the battlefield, just launch your special military operation already and get it over with, no need to brag on a Pakistani forum about how you'll do it.

We will first deal with Pakistan. Then we are coming after you guys. It is not acceptable that Pakistan is occupying our land. We must take back Pakistan occupied Kashmir at any cost. After that be prepared to face a nightmare.

 

[waz]

We will first deal with Pakistan. Then we are coming after you guys. It is not acceptable that Pakistan is occupying our land. We must take back Pakistan occupied Kashmir at any cost. After that be prepared to face a nightmare.

You lost the air battle in 2019. Your forces would be taken apart if they came to AJK.
I'm from that region and the people hate you with a passion and are not like the ones you occupy in Srinagar now.
China will end you in 72 hours.
Facts.

 

[etylo]

Delusional Indian can always dream on. You can try to blocke or seal the strait of Malacca to prevent Chinese ships from passing and see what will happening. Is strait of Malacca closer to the Chinese South Sea fleet and bases or closer to your Indian navy and bases, have some brain Indian.

 

[Steppe Wolff]

We will first deal with Pakistan. Then we are coming after you guys. It is not acceptable that Pakistan is occupying our land. We must take back Pakistan occupied Kashmir at any cost. After that be prepared to face a nightmare.

Man, you injuns always surprise me.

Your forces will be turned to mince meat in AJK. Have you even seen that place? Its Mountainous and heavily guarded. Forget Pakistan Armed Forces. Even the People there are hardcore nationalists and fully armed. Goodluck to your pathetic forces .

And you are talking about taking China on . Even the USA would think 100 times before taking on China in their own neighborhood.

 

[K_Bin_W]

There we go again..!