Operation 'Decisive Storm' | Saudi lead coalition operations in Yemen - Updates & Discussions.

[Aepsilons]

To those who say Hadi is the elected president of Yemen to justify the invasion on Yemen (hypocrites in my eye):

A presidential election was held in Yemen on 21 February 2012. Acting President Abd Rabbuh Mansur al-Hadi was the only candidate in the election. He was sworn in as president of Yemen on 25 February 2012 in the Presidential Palace.

With a reported 65% turnout, Hadi won 99.8 percent of the vote.

Yemeni presidential election, 2012 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Maybe compared to Saudi standards, this is called a genuine election, but you guys can't fool everyone around. And they dare to call Assad's election a fake one hence calling him illegitimate. This is the most ridiculous thing. One of their excuses is that Hadi is the elected president and Houthis are Iran's agents. But since rules of jungle apply in the world, Hadi is a fully legitimate president, even according to U.S 'democracy'. Now they have invaded Yemen to save the 'democratic' president, not to mention Saudis' love for freedom of expression and democracy.

This 'elected' leader officially asked foreign nations to invade his country, what a patriotic leader indeed, he doesn't even look like a stooge and he dares to call Houthis Iran's puppets.

This is surely not for an elected leader, not for Yemenis and not for protecting freedom, it's only and only for keeping a good servant in the chair.

And for those Pakistanis who think their country should support Saudis because a Houthi attack on Saudi holy sites is imminent or to protect 'holy lands' (which is a huge lie). You just can't 'defend' an invader and you are not 'defending' Saudis here from anything. If your country helps them, it's only and only because they are Saudis, you surely are not defending anything 'holy', you are simply supporting foreign invasion on a sovereign nation. So please if you at least want to defend this operation, come up with some proper excuses.

@5th Star @kollang @rahi2357 @B@KH @Irfan Baloch @Horus @mohsen @f1000n @DESERT FIGHTER @Hindustani78 @Surenas @Shapur Zol Aktaf @syedali73 @SOHEIL @Daneshmand @Nihonjin1051 @Oscar @Gufi @bozorgmehr @Bratva @Screambowl @K-Xeroid @Dazzler @kaku1 @Winchester @rmi5 @New @Malik Alashter @Oscar

Excellent read.

 

[jammersat]

Not precisely an Iranian...

 

[Screambowl]

To those who say Hadi is the elected president of Yemen to justify the invasion on Yemen (hypocrites in my eye):

A presidential election was held in Yemen on 21 February 2012. Acting President Abd Rabbuh Mansur al-Hadi was the only candidate in the election. He was sworn in as president of Yemen on 25 February 2012 in the Presidential Palace.

With a reported 65% turnout, Hadi won 99.8 percent of the vote.

Yemeni presidential election, 2012 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Maybe compared to Saudi standards, this is called a genuine election, but you guys can't fool everyone around. And they dare to call Assad's election a fake one hence calling him illegitimate. This is the most ridiculous thing. One of their excuses is that Hadi is the elected president and Houthis are Iran's agents. But since rules of jungle apply in the world, Hadi is a fully legitimate president, even according to U.S 'democracy'. Now they have invaded Yemen to save the 'democratic' president, not to mention Saudis' love for freedom of expression and democracy.

This 'elected' leader officially asked foreign nations to invade his country, what a patriotic leader indeed, he doesn't even look like a stooge and he dares to call Houthis Iran's puppets.

This is surely not for an elected leader, not for Yemenis and not for protecting freedom, it's only and only for keeping a good servant in the chair.

And for those Pakistanis who think their country should support Saudis because a Houthi attack on Saudi holy sites is imminent or to protect 'holy lands' (which is a huge lie). You just can't 'defend' an invader and you are not 'defending' Saudis here from anything. If your country helps them, it's only and only because they are Saudis, you surely are not defending anything 'holy', you are simply supporting foreign invasion on a sovereign nation. So please if you at least want to defend this operation, come up with some proper excuses.

@5th Star @kollang @rahi2357 @B@KH @Irfan Baloch @Horus @mohsen @f1000n @DESERT FIGHTER @Hindustani78 @Surenas @Shapur Zol Aktaf @syedali73 @SOHEIL @Daneshmand @Nihonjin1051 @Oscar @Gufi @bozorgmehr @Bratva @Screambowl @K-Xeroid @Dazzler @kaku1 @Winchester @rmi5 @New @Malik Alashter @Oscar

a monarch country trying to bomb country to maintain it's democracy lol.

 

[Madali]

Also let me add to that excellent post, remember that Hadi was the vice president in Yemen since...1994.

Saudi just wants everything to go back to how it was. A weak, poor country that will never be a threat for Saudi.

 

[Serpentine]

An Iranian complaining about elections that are not free..

I'm not complaining about the elections itself, if you don't have comprehension problems, please read again. I'm complaining about an invasion based on 'protecting an elected leader' which is a huge hoax. At least as an Iranian, I can say my country hasn't officially declared war on another country to protect an 'elected president' who won in a single candidate election.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

To those who say Hadi is the elected president of Yemen to justify the invasion on Yemen (hypocrites in my eye):

A presidential election was held in Yemen on 21 February 2012. Acting President Abd Rabbuh Mansur al-Hadi was the only candidate in the election. He was sworn in as president of Yemen on 25 February 2012 in the Presidential Palace.

With a reported 65% turnout, Hadi won 99.8 percent of the vote.

Yemeni presidential election, 2012 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Maybe compared to Saudi standards, this is called a genuine election, but you guys can't fool everyone around. And they dare to call Assad's election a fake one hence calling him illegitimate. This is the most ridiculous thing. One of their excuses is that Hadi is the elected president and Houthis are Iran's agents. But since rules of jungle apply in the world, Hadi is a fully legitimate president, even according to U.S 'democracy'. Now they have invaded Yemen to save the 'democratic' president, not to mention Saudis' love for freedom of expression and democracy.

This 'elected' leader officially asked foreign nations to invade his country, what a patriotic leader indeed, he doesn't even look like a stooge and he dares to call Houthis Iran's puppets.

This is surely not for an elected leader, not for Yemenis and not for protecting freedom, it's only and only for keeping a good servant in the chair.

And for those Pakistanis who think their country should support Saudis because a Houthi attack on Saudi holy sites is imminent or to protect 'holy lands' (which is a huge lie). You just can't 'defend' an invader and you are not 'defending' Saudis here from anything. If your country helps them, it's only and only because they are Saudis, you surely are not defending anything 'holy', you are simply supporting foreign invasion on a sovereign nation. So please if you at least want to defend this operation, come up with some proper excuses.

@5th Star @kollang @rahi2357 @B@KH @Irfan Baloch @Horus @mohsen @f1000n @DESERT FIGHTER @Hindustani78 @Surenas @Shapur Zol Aktaf @syedali73 @SOHEIL @Daneshmand @Nihonjin1051 @Oscar @Gufi @bozorgmehr @Bratva @Screambowl @K-Xeroid @Dazzler @kaku1 @Winchester @rmi5 @New @Malik Alashter @Oscar

thanks for your point of view

the glossing of Holy Sites protection, KSA integrity etc is all for international consumption. in reality KSA is flexing its muscles as a reaction to setbacks in Iraq since its arch rival Iran has won some favours with not just the Iraqi government but also the west and it is active partner in the coalition that is fighting ISIS and best part is that the coalition also includes Sunni tribes as well.

KSA is simply doing what it did in Bahrain. its all about power projection and self preservation the definition of Human rights, rights and wrongs, freedom and justice are all subjective and open to interpretation to who you ask.

Houthis are were good guys of Saudis but not no more and I agree, they have neither the capacity nor the will to threaten the integrity of KSA.

my fear is that a false flag / real attack on stranded Pakistanis in Yemen and a massacre of few hundred of them might drag in Pakistan into the conflict by forcing it to reconsider its reluctance. as of now Gen Raheel is in no mood to spare his troops while we not only have to deal with BLA and TTP insurgency but also keep an eye on Indians who time and again instigate skirmishes on the eastern borders in order to strain our resources.

I am also watching the Seestan / Balochsitan situation with concern and I know there are international players involved in instigating a conflict between Iran and Pakistan which will not only destroy Pakistan's Gawader project but also damage Iran as well at the expense of Pakistan


good article in Dawn
Yemen crisis: Don't bring the war to my home

In 1962, Zaidi Shias were friends while nationalists, socialists, and communists were pronounced as foes by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. In 2015, they have been declared as foes and an imminent danger to Saudi sovereignty and territorial integrity.

 

[Aepsilons]

To those who say Hadi is the elected president of Yemen to justify the invasion on Yemen (hypocrites in my eye):

A presidential election was held in Yemen on 21 February 2012. Acting President Abd Rabbuh Mansur al-Hadi was the only candidate in the election. He was sworn in as president of Yemen on 25 February 2012 in the Presidential Palace.

With a reported 65% turnout, Hadi won 99.8 percent of the vote.

Yemeni presidential election, 2012 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Maybe compared to Saudi standards, this is called a genuine election, but you guys can't fool everyone around. And they dare to call Assad's election a fake one hence calling him illegitimate. This is the most ridiculous thing. One of their excuses is that Hadi is the elected president and Houthis are Iran's agents. But since rules of jungle apply in the world, Hadi is a fully legitimate president, even according to U.S 'democracy'. Now they have invaded Yemen to save the 'democratic' president, not to mention Saudis' love for freedom of expression and democracy.

This 'elected' leader officially asked foreign nations to invade his country, what a patriotic leader indeed, he doesn't even look like a stooge and he dares to call Houthis Iran's puppets.

This is surely not for an elected leader, not for Yemenis and not for protecting freedom, it's only and only for keeping a good servant in the chair.

And for those Pakistanis who think their country should support Saudis because a Houthi attack on Saudi holy sites is imminent or to protect 'holy lands' (which is a huge lie). You just can't 'defend' an invader and you are not 'defending' Saudis here from anything. If your country helps them, it's only and only because they are Saudis, you surely are not defending anything 'holy', you are simply supporting foreign invasion on a sovereign nation. So please if you at least want to defend this operation, come up with some proper excuses.

@5th Star @kollang @rahi2357 @B@KH @Irfan Baloch @Horus @mohsen @f1000n @DESERT FIGHTER @Hindustani78 @Surenas @Shapur Zol Aktaf @syedali73 @SOHEIL @Daneshmand @Nihonjin1051 @Oscar @Gufi @bozorgmehr @Bratva @Screambowl @K-Xeroid @Dazzler @kaku1 @Winchester @rmi5 @New @Malik Alashter @Oscar

What is clear is that no nation should be interfering with anyone's internal affairs. We have the catastrophe that has plagued Syria --- thanks to external support of these so called "moderate rebels" aka militant wahabism that has now morphed into ISIS, ISIL.

As the lessons in Syria, and Iraq have shown. One cannot simply throw fuel to a fire. Have we not seen the results of ISIS? The entire Levant is up in flames , now another theater in the southern part of the Arabian Peninsula ?

Let Yemen exercise their right to national destiny. Devoid of external participatory.

 

[kaku1]

I'm not complaining about the elections itself, if you don't have comprehension problems, please read again. I'm complaining about an invasion based on 'protecting an elected leader' which is a huge hoax. At least as an Iranian, I can say my country hasn't officially declared war on another country to protect an 'elected president' who won in a single candidate election.

 

[Aepsilons]

I'm not complaining about the elections itself, if you don't have comprehension problems, please read again. I'm complaining about an invasion based on 'protecting an elected leader' which is a huge hoax. At least as an Iranian, I can say my country hasn't officially declared war on another country to protect an 'elected president' who won in a single candidate election.

@Serpentine ,

Can you update us on Iran's official position on this matter? Its hard to get any objective Iranian position --- news channels here in the US that is covering this situation isn't entirely 'unbiased' you know. I've read the Saudi and Saudi-supported position, i haven't read the Yemeni (Houthi) or Iranian position. Can you provide some links , buddy?

Thanks.

 

[Serpentine]

@Serpentine ,

Can you update us on Iran's official position on this matter? Its hard to get any objective Iranian position --- news channels here in the US that is covering this situation isn't entirely 'unbiased' you know. I've read the Saudi and Saudi-supported position, i haven't read the Yemeni (Houthi) or Iranian position. Can you provide some links , buddy?

Thanks.

The Iranian foreign minister has called on Saudi Arabia to immediately cease its military aggression against Yemen.

“We demand an immediate stop to the Saudi military operations in Yemen,” Mohammad Javad Zarif said in an interview with Iran's Arabic-language al-Alam news network on Thursday.

Zarif said the military operations constitute a violation of Yemen’s sovereignty and will only lead to bloodshed.

“We will spare no effort to contain the crisis in Yemen,” Zarif said.

PressTV-Riyadh must end Yemen attack: Iran

Iran strongly condemns Saudi operation in Yemen | Al Bawaba

Iran Demands Immediate Stop to Saudi Military Operations in Yemen

Farsnews

DY FM says Saudi invasion of Yemen is a strategic mistake

@Nihonjin1051 As for Houthi reaction, these videos speak for themselves, no need for links. Supporters of Ansarullah (Houthis) hold demonstrations in Sana'a (capital) denouncing Saudi invasion.

 

[Decisive Storm]

@Serpentine ,

Can you update us on Iran's official position on this matter? Its hard to get any objective Iranian position --- news channels here in the US that is covering this situation isn't entirely 'unbiased' you know. I've read the Saudi and Saudi-supported position, i haven't read the Yemeni (Houthi) or Iranian position. Can you provide some links , buddy?

Thanks.

Houthi refused the dialogue proposed by Arab countries before the Operation & now said that he want to invade KSA.

Iran as always, never give a clear stance, they always escalate with 'hugs & pink words'.
They said exactly : 'we will continue supporting Yemen against terrorism'
wich literally means we will continue supporting Houthis militias in its coup.

Another more time,
King Salman said Today : doors are open for All Yemeni factions for dialogue.

Iran & Houthis will not accept dialogue, Greed persons always want everything, they want All the power in Yemen despite they are a minority.

Today they fired bullets on Yemeni protesters against their coup in Al-Hudaida city.
Till now they have a record of dozens protesters killed and they did not took the power Yet.

 

[Winchester]

To those who say Hadi is the elected president of Yemen to justify the invasion on Yemen (hypocrites in my eye):

A presidential election was held in Yemen on 21 February 2012. Acting President Abd Rabbuh Mansur al-Hadi was the only candidate in the election. He was sworn in as president of Yemen on 25 February 2012 in the Presidential Palace.

With a reported 65% turnout, Hadi won 99.8 percent of the vote.

Yemeni presidential election, 2012 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Maybe compared to Saudi standards, this is called a genuine election, but you guys can't fool everyone around. And they dare to call Assad's election a fake one hence calling him illegitimate. This is the most ridiculous thing. One of their excuses is that Hadi is the elected president and Houthis are Iran's agents. But since rules of jungle apply in the world, Hadi is a fully legitimate president, even according to U.S 'democracy'. Now they have invaded Yemen to save the 'democratic' president, not to mention Saudis' love for freedom of expression and democracy.

This 'elected' leader officially asked foreign nations to invade his country, what a patriotic leader indeed, he doesn't even look like a stooge and he dares to call Houthis Iran's puppets.

This is surely not for an elected leader, not for Yemenis and not for protecting freedom, it's only and only for keeping a good servant in the chair.

And for those Pakistanis who think their country should support Saudis because a Houthi attack on Saudi holy sites is imminent or to protect 'holy lands' (which is a huge lie). You just can't 'defend' an invader and you are not 'defending' Saudis here from anything. If your country helps them, it's only and only because they are Saudis, you surely are not defending anything 'holy', you are simply supporting foreign invasion on a sovereign nation. So please if you at least want to defend this operation, come up with some proper excuses.

@5th Star @kollang @rahi2357 @B@KH @Irfan Baloch @Horus @mohsen @f1000n @DESERT FIGHTER @Hindustani78 @Surenas @Shapur Zol Aktaf @syedali73 @SOHEIL @Daneshmand @Nihonjin1051 @Oscar @Gufi @bozorgmehr @Bratva @Screambowl @K-Xeroid @Dazzler @kaku1 @Winchester @rmi5 @New @Malik Alashter @Oscar

I for one am against any Pakistani involvement in this whole conflict
But regarding the elections despite them featuring only one candidate they were generally well received at that time in Yemen
Now as in most 3rd world countries the govt. may have been a disappointment due to corruption among other things but the electoral process was uncontroversial
This not me saying this i got this from a UNDP report
Here is the actual quote from the report
"Stakeholders also agreed unanimously that the election was managed competently and efficiently and enjoyed a high voter turnout and uncontroversial result"
Link to the report http://www.ye.undp.org/content/dam/yemen/DemDov/Docs/Evaluation of International Assistance to the early presidential elections_Yemen_2012_final report_v.1.pdf

 

[Aepsilons]

Houthi refused the dialogue proposed by Arab countries before the Operation & now said that he want to invade KSA.

Iran as always, never give a clear stance, they always escalate with 'hugs & pink words'.
They said exactly : 'we will continue supporting Yemen against terrorism'
wich literally mean we will continue supporting Houthis militias in its coup.

Another more time,
King Salman said Today : doors are open for All Yemeni factions for dialogue.

Iran & Houthis will not accept dialogue, Greed persons always want everything, they want All the power in Yemen despite they are a minority.

One cannot deny the considerable population in Yemen which are Shia, who do not want to be reigned over by a Saudi-backed government. It is the same sectarian dynamic seen in Iraq, actually.

So what must be done? How can we resolve this quagmire. Perhaps looking into the solution of the Sudan War is a necessity. The creation of a two state solutions in Yemen; as was in solving the Sudanese problem.

Before, I never believed how sectarian differences could lead to communal violence. Lo and behold the situation in Syria and Iraq proved me otherwise. One member previously mentioned a two state solution to be ideal, I am now in the position that agrees to that premise.

The problem is that I don't think the Saudis will accept a two state solution, as the regard any Shia-dominant state in the Arabian Peninsula as an existential threat. That is the underlying problem.

The United States is now placed in a precarious situation because it is allied with the KSA , yet at the same time is currently working on a Nuclear Deal with Iran and trying to develop closer ties with Iran. How this will affect geopolicy is what is interesting.

 

[vostok]

This is not a war waged by Sunnis against Shias – it is simply an act of dynastic self-preservation. Saudi royals will not allow a 'revolution' in their backyard, be it Bahrain or Yemen.

Saudis were not bad surviving in times when Egypt, Iraq, Syria, and Yemen were socialist. I think that Shi'ism to them a greater threat than the ghost of the return of socialism in the region.

 

[Aepsilons]

Houthi refused the dialogue proposed by Arab countries before the Operation & now said that he want to invade KSA.

Iran as always, never give a clear stance, they always escalate with 'hugs & pink words'.
They said exactly : 'we will continue supporting Yemen against terrorism'
wich literally mean we will continue supporting Houthis militias in its coup.

Another more time,
King Salman said Today : doors are open for All Yemeni factions for dialogue.

Iran & Houthis will not accept dialogue, Greed persons always want everything, they want All the power in Yemen despite they are a minority.

Today they fired bullets on Yemeni protesters against their coup in Al-Hudaida city.
Till now they have a record of dozens protesters killed and they did not took the power Yet.

Very strong points. A ceasefire must be realized and preferably a UN-led peace keeping force should be sent. Then national elections should be made.

External forces (Saudi, Iranian et al) should not intervene.