Operation 'Decisive Storm' | Saudi lead coalition operations in Yemen - Updates & Discussions.

[Malik Alashter]

How can we resolve this quagmire. Perhaps looking into the solution of the Sudan War is a necessity. The creation of a two state solutions in Yemen; as was in solving the Sudanese problem.

That wont be a good solution since that will bring a long standind war for this inch of land is mine.

our biggest problem is that saudis create sectarian problem to be recognized as a sunni protector this way they get a legitmacy from the the sunnis in that regions that increase their life in ruling their country even have influence some where else.

We are helping a Legitimate Government under its will & request, this is guaranteed by Arabic Common Defence Pact & by International Law.

What about you ?
What are you doing there, arming militias to take over the country ?

Who is arming and what melitia please?

You mean Houthis man they already armed to teeth they need no more armament.

when they defeated the saudis in 09 they did that with light armament.

Plus what you mean by you Iraq is already has is own problem we need arms not suppleing them.

 

[Decisive Storm]

That wont be a good solution since that will bring a long standind war for this inch of land is mine.

our biggest problem is that saudis create sectarian problem to be recognized as a sunni protector this way they get a legitmacy from the the sunnis in that regions that increase their life in ruling their country even have influence some where else.

Are you talking about sectarianism ?
Did you forget your death squads protected by the Govt in Iraq ?

Don't you feel ashamed when lying 10 lies in each line ?

 

[vostok]

• Muslim Brotherhood (MB) in Egypt was elected democratically yet Saudis supported their overthrow despite MB being Sunnis. What gives?
  
• Why is Saudi Arabia saving democracy in Yemen while supporting a dictator in Egypt?

Ideologies change over time, be it communism, socialism, secularism, et al. What doesn't change is one's urge for self-preservation. I'm sure as a Russian you know that better than anyone.

In Egypt, they supported one Sunni against another Sunni, so not a big deal. But in Yemen, as in Iraq, there is a danger for a Shiite regime. Saudi Arabia does not want to be surrounded by a Shiite states, because then there is a danger of Shiite unresst in the territory of Arabia itself.

 

[CHI RULES]

Do some respectable member tell me what Iran has done to create harmony with other Muslim countries specially Pakistan. As they have always supported India, perhaps in Ahmedi Najad's era some efforts were done by him but due to limited authority availble to him he was unable to do something good in this regard. I personally liked his stance on Palestine. Perhaps Iran should give one more chance to sensible person like him

 

[Malik Alashter]

Are you talking about sectarianism ?
Did you forget your death squads protected by the Govt in Iraq ?

Don't you feel ashamed when lying 10 lies in each line ?

You mean baathis death squad you people lie and believe yours lies if shea really had death squad then there will be no sunnis in Baghdad well no insurgency at all but the reality it's your death squad that were killing shea hoping that will scare them then your scums come back to rule which is never happen.

Iraqis politicians are cowards other wise they should take al saud to court for supporting terrorism in Iraq.

 

[Dazzler]

1. So where's the Pakistani War of Independence? If it wasnt for Louis Mountbatten who forced the Indian National Congress to accept the partition, there would be no Pakistan. Secondly, Pakistan had the British king (and then Queen) as it's head of state for nearly 9 years after independence! No other Muslim country had to experience this so please dont kid yourself.

2. Pakistan was no Islamic state. It was completely secular until the 1970s when General Zia ul-Haq introduced a little bit of Islamic law. The only nation that was founded mostly on the basis of Islam is the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

Lawrence of Arabia, enough said

If it wasn't for all said traitors, there wouldn't be a Balfour declaration neither would there be an Israel nor the Arabian peninsula be renamed as "Saudi-Arabia, which was never the case even during the time of our beloved prophet (s.a.w.w). Don't tell me you Al saud are more prestigious.

 

[raptor22]

I agree with your point on Egypt
But the same can be said of Iran...supporting the regime in Syria but backing the rebels here

What about Bahrain? Saudi helped Bahrain to crackdown its own people by sending troops ... don't Bahreni people deserve democracy?
Our support in Yemen is political ... not military, where is Iranian weapon in Yemen?please show me ...

In Syria government did something stupid by suppressing people, and from the beginning Iran urged Syrian government to reform and have political and constitutional amendments to allow all parties and sides to participate in government ..... we urged them to give up their chemical weapons ....

We say all side must stop weaponizing Syria which escalates the situation then we should fight ISIL and the other extremists to bring stability and security to Syria ... then Syrian people could hold an election and form their future by their own ...but our first priority is to save Syria from secession ....
By the end , it is Syrian people who should choose the same for Yemeni and Bahraini people and so on.

 

[Red Wolf]

In Egypt, they supported one Sunni against another Sunni, so not a big deal. But in Yemen, as in Iraq, there is a danger for a Shiite regime. Saudi Arabia does not want to be surrounded by a Shiite states, because then there is a danger of Shiite unresst in the territory of Arabia itself.

Muslim Brotherhood (MB), in Egypt, presented a rival Sunni ideology which was packaged nicely in revolutionary zeal and that's why MB was overthrown. Houthis have found a similar revolutionary ideology in the ghosts of Iranian revolution. Bahrainis found their revolutionary ideology in Arab spring. Saudis dispatched all these revolutions with different tactics. Can't oversimplify things to mere Sunnis vs Shias.

 

[Frogman]

Simply horrendous and atrocious!

Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:22

Egyptian Pilot Arrested for Not Bombing Yemen

TEHRAN (FNA)- The Egyptian air force has arrested one of its pilots after he disobeyed orders for taking part in airstrikes against Yemen.
"I joined the army and studied to become a pilot to strike Israel and not Yemen," Arab news website Omran Press quoted the arrested Egyptian pilot as saying.

Saudi Arabia has been striking Yemen for five days now, killing, at least, 73 civilians and injuring hundreds more.

Five Persian Gulf States -- Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Bahrain, Qatar and Kuwait -- and Egypt that are also assisted by Israel and backed by the US have declared war on Yemen in a joint statement issued on Thursday.

US President Barack Obama authorized the provision of logistical and intelligence support to the military operations, National Security Council Spokesperson Bernadette Meehan said late Wednesday night.

She added that while US forces were not taking direct military action in Yemen, Washington was establishing a Joint Planning Cell with Saudi Arabia to coordinate US military and intelligence support.

Riyadh claimed that it has bombed the positions of the Ansarullah fighters and launched attacks against the Sana'a airport and the Dulaimi airbase.

Despite Riyadh's claims that it is attacking Ansarullah positions, Saudi warplanes have flattened a number of homes near Sana’a international airport.

Farsnews


In reality Lieutenant Pilot Ahmed Mohammed Elsayed Abu Aleta was martyred in his helicopter in the Sinai when it was targeted by ABM.

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[Dazzler]

thanks for your point of view

the glossing of Holy Sites protection, KSA integrity etc is all for international consumption. in reality KSA is flexing its muscles as a reaction to setbacks in Iraq since its arch rival Iran has won some favours with not just the Iraqi government but also the west and it is active partner in the coalition that is fighting ISIS and best part is that the coalition also includes Sunni tribes as well.

KSA is simply doing what it did in Bahrain. its all about power projection and self preservation the definition of Human rights, rights and wrongs, freedom and justice are all subjective and open to interpretation to who you ask.

Houthis are were good guys of Saudis but not no more and I agree, they have neither the capacity nor the will to threaten the integrity of KSA.

my fear is that a false flag / real attack on stranded Pakistanis in Yemen and a massacre of few hundred of them might drag in Pakistan into the conflict by forcing it to reconsider its reluctance. as of now Gen Raheel is in no mood to spare his troops while we not only have to deal with BLA and TTP insurgency but also keep an eye on Indians who time and again instigate skirmishes on the eastern borders in order to strain our resources.

I am also watching the Seestan / Balochsitan situation with concern and I know there are international players involved in instigating a conflict between Iran and Pakistan which will not only destroy Pakistan's Gawader project but also damage Iran as well at the expense of Pakistan


good article in Dawn
Yemen crisis: Don't bring the war to my home

In 1962, Zaidi Shias were friends while nationalists, socialists, and communists were pronounced as foes by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. In 2015, they have been declared as foes and an imminent danger to Saudi sovereignty and territorial integrity.

U stole me mind IB nicely summed up

 

[Bilal.]

Lawrence of Arabia, enough said

If it wasn't for all said traitors, there wouldn't be a Balfour declaration neither would there be an Israel nor the Arabian peninsula be renamed as "Saudi-Arabia, which was never the case even during the time of our beloved prophet (s.a.w.w). Don't tell me you Al saud are more prestigious.

The guy doesn't seem to be from where he claims.

 

[Winchester]

By the end , it is Syrian people who should choose the same for Yemeni and Bahraini people and so on.

I agree

 

[Frogman]

Egyptian Air Force continues its strikes on Houthi positions

Coalition forces continued their strikes yesterday morning by focusing on the governate/province of Saada which is held by the Houthi "Ansar Allah". Eye witnesses said the strikes yesterday at dawn targeted the Kahlan Military base in addition to the Aritllery Brigade and weapons caches.

Egyptian planes continued their strikes on Houthi positions. Highly placed sources said that 25 Egyptian planes conducted sorties and took part in strikes that targeted Houthi positions (Almalahet, Taiz, Saada) and destroyed weapons caches, training areas, and hideouts.

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Sectors| Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:39pm IST
Warships shell Houthis outside Yemeni city of Aden -witnesses
ADEN, MARCH 30

(Reuters) - Warships shelled a column of Houthi fighters and troops loyal to former president Ali Abdullah Saleh as they tried to advance on the southern port city of Aden on Monday, residents said, the first known report of naval forces taking part in the conflict.

They said the vessels were believed to be Egyptian warships that sailed last week through the Suez Canal toward the Gulf of Aden. Egypt is a member of the Saudi-led coalition that has been targeting Houthi positions to stem their advance on Aden, a last foothold of fighters loyal to President Abd-Rabbu Mansour Hadi.

No comment was immediately available from Egyptian officials. (Reporting by Mohammed Mukhashaf, writing by Sami Aboudi; Editing by Kevin Liffey)

Warships shell Houthis outside Yemeni city of Aden -witnesses| Reuters

 

[Daneshmand]

To those who say Hadi is the elected president of Yemen to justify the invasion on Yemen (hypocrites in my eye):

A presidential election was held in Yemen on 21 February 2012. Acting President Abd Rabbuh Mansur al-Hadi was the only candidate in the election. He was sworn in as president of Yemen on 25 February 2012 in the Presidential Palace.

With a reported 65% turnout, Hadi won 99.8 percent of the vote.

Yemeni presidential election, 2012 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Maybe compared to Saudi standards, this is called a genuine election, but you guys can't fool everyone around. And they dare to call Assad's election a fake one hence calling him illegitimate. This is the most ridiculous thing. One of their excuses is that Hadi is the elected president and Houthis are Iran's agents. But since rules of jungle apply in the world, Hadi is a fully legitimate president, even according to U.S 'democracy'. Now they have invaded Yemen to save the 'democratic' president, not to mention Saudis' love for freedom of expression and democracy.

This 'elected' leader officially asked foreign nations to invade his country, what a patriotic leader indeed, he doesn't even look like a stooge and he dares to call Houthis Iran's puppets.

This is surely not for an elected leader, not for Yemenis and not for protecting freedom, it's only and only for keeping a good servant in the chair.

And for those Pakistanis who think their country should support Saudis because a Houthi attack on Saudi holy sites is imminent or to protect 'holy lands' (which is a huge lie). You just can't 'defend' an invader and you are not 'defending' Saudis here from anything. If your country helps them, it's only and only because they are Saudis, you surely are not defending anything 'holy', you are simply supporting foreign invasion on a sovereign nation. So please if you at least want to defend this operation, come up with some proper excuses.

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Quoted for its bare truth.

But as for "defense of Holy sites":

First of all there is no danger to Holy sites. It is Saudi Arabia that is attacking Yemen, not the Yemeni aircrafts bombing the Holy sites.

Secondly, Saudi royal family has always equated itself with Islam and Holy sites. It is their excuse to be protected. They use the ignorant people's emotions to rally support for themselves.

Thirdly, Saudi royal family has been the biggest enemy of holy sites. They have destroyed almost all Holy sites in Saudi Arabia, and it is a surprise they have let Kaba'a still standing. Everything else from Prophet's house to resting places of Prophet's household were razed to the ground.

Fourthly, Takfiris do not consider Shias or Sufi Sunnis, Muslim so they think Kaba'a should not be in the hands of these. Only Takfiris are fit to hold it, while making huge profits off the pilgrims.

etc etc.

 

[الأعرابي]

Yemen FM blames Houthis for strike on refugee camp

Yemen’s foreign minister blamed Iranian-allied Houthi fighters for an air strike on a camp for displaced people and refugees in northern Yemen that killed at least 45 people on Monday, denying any link to Saudi-led military operations.

Riyadh Yaseen was speaking to reporters in the Saudi capital Riyadh. He said the explosion on the camp was not from Arab coalition forces but by “artillery strikes” by the Shiite Muslim Houthis.

Yaseen also said that his government has not had any contact with Houthi militias since the start of air strikes on Thursday.

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Dozens killed as Yemen tribes clash with Houthis

Dozens were killed during clashes between Yemeni tribal fighters and Houthi rebels near the oil-producing Asailan area in the southern governorate of Shabwa, Al Arabiya News Channel reported citing local sources.

Fighting erupted when tribal fighters attacked a Houthi-held area near Asailan.

Almost thirty were killed among the Houthis and their loyalists during confrontations which also killed eight members of the tribes, a security source told Al Arabiya.

The area was held by members of the Houthi militia and loyalists to former president Ali Abdullah Saleh.

These developments come as a Saudi-led military campaign in Yemen enters its fifth day.

Saudi Arabia, along with nine other states, has conducted a series of airstrikes targeting areas held by the Houthis.