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[Gasoline]

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Let me say this


I did say why. Let me repeat. Iran's revolution was the first major popular Islamic revolution in a while in a country full of monarchist rules. This was shaking the status quo and, of course, every player in the region got nervous. What if the same thing happened in their country?

Do you really believe the Mullah propaganda (that has been propagandized for 36 years in a row since the revolution) that only Islamists formed the opposition against the Shah and toppled him? Let alone that they were in the majority? I am no expert in the Iranian Revolution (I only know the basics) but from what I recall then communists/socialists formed the backbone of the revolution. The Mullah's later made due process with them and executed many of their leaders (that helped them topple the Shah).

Of course the region gets nervous when your leader proclaims that he wants to expand this rule to the entire Muslim world and that he actively seeks to create proxies in the Muslim world (mostly neighboring Arab world as this is where all the holy sites in Islam are and were people are most prone to Islamism) to control them. That he even sees this as an religious obligation that people must die for.

You Iranians are not even religious on average. You are sadly just making excuses.

In short it's amazing that relations between the Arab world and Iran (once again I must state that Arab world here mostly means neighboring Iraq and GCC) were cordial and not hostile only to become toxic after a certain "Islamic" revolution.

Also for your information then most Arabs are religious and if Iran was really genuine in reviving the Islamic world through just rule you would have got the support from more people than just a few proxies in Southern Lebanon and Southern Iraq.

This is also another thing that you should think about longer and wonder why this never succeeded.

I have even discussed this with Iranian academics abroad (believe it or not) and they also agree with how I view this topic. They say much of the same. So say what you want so far nobody has been able to counter my main points about this topic on PDF or elsewhere.

@Falcon29

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

 

[N.Ozkan]

Not to look down on anyone but will those guys cut the slack if they are attacked? Look to amateur?

 

[Madali]

Do you really believe the Mullah propaganda (that has been propagandized for 36 years in a row since the revolution) that only Islamists formed the opposition against the Shah and toppled him? Let alone that they were in the majority? I am no expert in the Iranian Revolution (I only know the basics) but from what I recall then communists/socialists formed the backbone of the revolution.

No, of course it wasn't only one group. You are right, there was many groups, all initially working together due to their distaste of the Shah. However, the constitution that was offered to the people and the public had a referendum on was The Islamic Republic.

This was what I mean concerned the region because if the Shah fell, couldn't others fall? It was a bit like the Arab spring and they had to attack it asap before it motivated others. (The same as it happened recently)

 

[f1000n]

They have sold themselves. They will come to regret it one day. Not because we will do anything to them (unless they attack) but they will realize their mistake themselves. Just like previously in history.

yet he was seen during his speech

emotional people aren't the best source

 

[500]

Thanx for correcting me. But I still think you are pretending not to understand. My point was in short, why Huthies haven't been able to retaliate like they did in:
Operation Scorched Earth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Although they are now much more armed and trained as well as have the former Yemeni army as an ally. Which leads me to wonder why Israel wasn't able to perform like Saudi Arabia. I understand that Israel is a small country with large concentrated population etc etc... But Huthies haven't been able to get even near the 1000+ km long border to launch attacks at at least Saudi checkpoints.

Again, what Hezbollah could do against Israel except firing rockets at civilian centers?

Aim of Israel in 2006 was to stop Hezbollah from attacking us and it was achieved.
Aim of KSA in 2009 was to destroy or weaken Houthis I guess. And we see how weak they are now.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

yet he was seen during his speech

emotional people aren't the best source

I did not watch the summit live and I was referring to the general policy here. I know that nobody walked out as this would have been front page news.

No, of course it wasn't only one group. You are right, there was many groups, all initially working together due to their distaste of the Shah. However, the constitution that was offered to the people and the public had a referendum on was The Islamic Republic.

This was what I mean concerned the region because if the Shah fell, couldn't others fall? It was a bit like the Arab spring and they had to attack it asap before it motivated others. (The same as it happened recently)

Sadly you omitted all my other points. We should discuss this in another forum/place/thread. You seem like a friendly dude willing to discuss this closer and the regions overall situation. I extend my hands even to the greatest enemies if peace offers/will to solve the problems at hand are genuine. Sadly most people here are only interested in trolling and probably never read posts longer than 2 lines. Anyway we should stick to the topic although all of this is tied.

 

[Gasoline]

Not to look down on anyone but will those guys cut the slack if they are attacked? Look to amateur?

Those friendly men are border guards not the Saudi army !
If there is an attack they'll call land forces for support and national guards if needed :

 

[Madali]

I did not watch the summit live and I was referring to the general policy here. I know that nobody walked out as this would have been front page news.



Sadly you omitted all my other points. We should discuss this in another forum/place/thread. You seem like a friendly dude willing to discuss this closer and the regions overall situation. I extend my hands even to the greatest enemies if peace offers/will to solve the problems at hand are genuine. Sadly most people here are only interested in trolling and probably never read posts longer than 2 lines. Anyway we should stick to the topic although all of this is tied.

Thanks and I agree. Looking forward to future discussions regarding that and I will try to stick to Yemen in this topic.

 

[N.Ozkan]

@Gasoline These boys looks more like it Guns and equipment is one thing, but I think the psychological warfare is also vital. Intimidating attires and face masks really shock you. Obviously this didn't work out so well for the (ex?) Iraqi army that walked around like they were from COD and got whipped by ISIS back in the days.. God speed to our Arabic brethren.

 

[f1000n]

@Gasoline These boys looks more like it Guns and equipment is one thing, but I think the psychological warfare is also vital. Intimidating attires and face masks really shock you. Obviously this didn't work out so well for the (ex?) Iraqi army that walked around like they were from COD and got whipped by ISIS back in the days.. God speed to our Arabic brethren.

Their collapse was due to politics not a military problem.

 

[nasirahmad]

Houthi aggression? How is a completely domestic movement against a corrupt and puppet government aggression, a movement that has support of majority of Yemenis? And what is Saudi attack against sovereign state of Yemen? Sending Saudi-style democracy to Yemen?

Hope to see the arses of foreign aggressors kicked. If they have balls to launch a ground invasion, hopefully Yemen will be their graveyard.


Oh, the good old Iranophobia. Houthi movement has political support of Iran. It is a fully Yemeni movement and all reports about Iran being behind it are as valuable as horseshit. There is just no proof of that. This aggression will change many things in region. Yemenis know who is on their side and who is trying to impose another backward puppet stooge on them. Let's see if useless UN will do anything against this aggression.

The holy prophet( saw) also mentioned as in hadith
Narrated Ibn ‘Umar:

The Prophet said, “O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Sham! O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Yemen.” The People said, “And also on our Najd.” He said, “O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Sham (north)! O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Yemen.” The people said, “O Allah’s Apostle! And also on our Najd.” I think the third time the Prophet said, “There (in Najd) is the place of earthquakes and afflictions and from there comes out the side of the head of Satan.”

~Saheeh Al-Bukhaari, Book of Tribulations and the End of the World, Hadeeth No. 6641

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Again, what Hezbollah could do against Israel except firing rockets at civilian centers?

Aim of Israel in 2006 was to stop Hezbollah from attacking us and it was achieved.
Aim of KSA in 2009 was to destroy or weaken Houthis I guess. And we see how weak they are now.

That's my point, they're much stronger now and yet they couldn't do anything. Anyway, I don't why you're nervous. I just wanted you to be here to enrich us with your analysis as you do in other topics.

 

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