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Do Bangladeshis today regard India as a 'savior' in the backdrop of 1971 war ?


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Thanks for showing this. The count that is showing, is that including the above Indians vote or excluding?
lol shameless............ n all trolls.. :lol:
This poll already shows how fake and snaky these Indians are. They try to prove themselves as loving people towards Bangladeshi people but in real life most of them generally don't care about Bangladesh and I mean that in a good way. The ones on this forum act like our brothers and sisters barging their nose in to every forum.

Regarding this topic, only the Bangladeshis hypnotised by Bollywood would think India was our saviour but from what I've gathered in Bangladesh when I was there recently they don't talk about India in a good light, they would refer to them as "Hindur zaath" (the Hindu kind). Surprising, I'm not trying to create some fake story but quite a few of my cousins back home have commented on Pakistan being a strong nation, strong infrastructure etc.

Yes it is a grand conspiracy to change the result by evil baniya bhindians, after all dividing a country in two and creating a new country in world map pales in comparison to a feel good opinion poll addressing Bangladeshis in Pakistan Defense Forum.
 
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Yes it is a grand conspiracy to change the result by evil baniya bhindians, after all dividing a country in two and creating a new country in world map pales in comparison to a feel good opinion poll addressing Bangladeshis in Pakistan Defense Forum.

Indians divided the country????? Conspiracy???? So your point is Zulfikar Ali Bhutto and your mighty military leaders were brainless stupid ones easily fooled by baniya Indians....Okk...
Who started Operation Searchlight ???.... Who killed 3 million bengladeshis ???? Who raped 2 lakh bengali women and kept as sex-slaves inside the Dhaka Cantonment???? Mighty Pakistanis done these barbarism under the influence of baniya Indians...... Anyway it's a big shame attacking fellow country men under the influence of some baniya Indians...
 
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Which country on earth has ever been self-less in their actions? I don't recall many at all, it's all politics and there's no such thing as righteousness it's self interest only.

Only Pakistan and a few others I can think of have been stupid enough to really stick their necks for others. For some we don't regret at all, for others, well, you know the story.
 
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Bangladesh's separation was inevitable and was prophesied with remarkable accuracy by many political observers during partition. It was also imprudent at the same time to assume the liberation process would take an effect without India's active participation.

Now,should the Bangladeshis would remain grateful to India forever? The answer is a simple NO. Because it is a separate sovereign state with independent internal as well as external policies. Expecting Bangladesh to be an eternally grateful state to us literally sounds silly and childish. We participated just to secure our own interests and not for any social service.
 
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As would a more powerful Maldives. About as much chance too.

Don't try to be smart.:lol:

BD has a GDP population of 150 and a GDP of 150 billion.

Maldives has a population of 0.4 million and a GDP of 2 billion.

BD's economy is also growing far quicker than India now and is expected to be growing quicker till 2018(by IMF), albeit only marginally quicker by then, in comparison to India.

Currently total BD defence spending is around 3 billion dollars a year and this figure is going up in proportion with the increase in BD's GDP, so the day is not now far off when India faces a BD with a conventional military on a par with Pakistan.

India will have to adjust it's defence posture in the future to take into account a BD that has a relatively powerful military.

Rather than making one liners, try to engage in serious debate.
 
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Don't try to be smart.:lol:

BD has a GDP population of 150 and a GDP of 150 billion.

Maldives has a population of 0.4 million and a GDP of 2 billion.

BD's economy is also growing far quicker than India now and is expected to be growing quicker till 2018(by IMF), albeit only marginally quicker by then, in comparison to India.

Currently total BD defence spending is around 3 billion dollars a year and this figure is going up in proportion with the increase in BD's GDP, so the day is not now far off when India faces a BD with a conventional military on a par with Pakistan.

India will have to adjust it's defence posture in the future to take into account a BD that has a relatively powerful military.

Rather than making one liners, try to engage in serious debate.
The serious debate is non existent because of the lubricity of your statement.
Bangladesh is not a threat to India, why then would India devote serious military assets to the Bangladeshi border.

If Bhutan tomorrow keeps F-22's and Abram tanks in its military, would it mean India starts deploying its own military in a counter position.
You keep military arrayed against threats and hostile nations. Bangladesh is neither a threat, nor hostile to India.

And just so that you know, Pakistan's military is not formidable at all compared to India. India would probably defeat Pakistan twice a month if it was not for the nuclear weapons they keep.
 
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The serious debate is non existent because of the lubricity of your statement.
Bangladesh is not a threat to India, why then would India devote serious military assets to the Bangladeshi border.

If Bhutan tomorrow keeps F-22's and Abram tanks in its military, would it mean India starts deploying its own military in a counter position.
You keep military arrayed against threats and hostile nations. Bangladesh is neither a threat, nor hostile to India.

Again, you Indians cannot think things through clearly.

BD is not currently hostile to India but it may become in the future.

All that matters is finally BD has the funds to create a decently powerful military and it looks like it could well build it.
Bhutan can NEVER create a military that can be any threat to India.

India will have to readjust both it's foreign policy and it's defence posture to take this into account, especially with a BD that will inevitably display a more assertive foreign policy as it becomes richer and more powerful in the future.
 
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A straight 180 degree contradiction.



No one here is asking you to. Or anybody for that matter.

Why is it 180 degree contradiction!!! Savior is not appropriate because they didn't do it as charity. Who will do such as charity! But we needed help, they helped that time
 
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Again, you Indians cannot think things through clearly.

BD is not currently hostile to India but it may become in the future.

All that matters is finally BD has the funds to create a decently powerful military and it looks like it could well build it.
Bhutan can NEVER create a military that can be any threat to India.

India will have to readjust both it's foreign policy and it's defence posture to take this into account, especially with a BD that will inevitably display a more assertive foreign policy as it becomes richer and more powerful in the future.
The fact that Bangladesh may become hostile in the future is predicated on the presence of core disputes between India and Bangladesh.
Like India and Pakistan have a core dispute regarding Kashmir.
India and China have a core dispute regarding Arunachal Pradesh.

India and Bangladesh have no core disputes. India and BD have already demarcated the land boundary agreement mutually. India still has to get it ratified by its Parliament, but for all intents and purposes, both India and BD have agreed on what each of them is willing to settle with. India being a generous party willing to cede an extra 10,000 acres of land to Bangladesh.

In the absence of such a core dispute, any hostility of India towards BD or BD towards India would remain temporary or passing. Certainly not even close to what is required to start putting their respective military on their borders.

That was the political aspect.
Now let us consider the military aspect.

1. With a land area that is smaller than Pakistan and a population that is equal to Pakistan in a region that is frequently hit by natural disasters and without the billions of economic and military aid that Pakistan gets annually and the constant diplomatic support of USA and China - it would be unlikely that Bangladesh would have the resources to raise a military that is equal to Pakistan's despite being able to make an economy as big as Pakistan's in say a decade and a half or two.

2. Even if Bangladesh were able to raise a military as big as what Pakistan fields today...Pakistan's military is not at all impressive or formidable in comparison to India without the threat of nuclear weapons.

So even if Bangladesh manages to make a military that is the equivalent of what Pakistan has now after a couple of decades, Indian military would still not consider it as a major threat by even today's Indian standards!

3. Let alone the fact that in a couple of decades India would have grown further and added more military muscle than the rest of South Asia put together.

Let me put it in simple terms - India of today can easily beat a Pakistan sized military of Bangladesh a couple of decades from now. Think what kind of military India would have of its own a couple of decades from now.

The bottomline - Unless Bangladesh were to get nuclear weapons - regardless of what they add up in their economy and military, they would still never be a military threat to India.

And Bangladesh cannot get nuclear weapons because it has signed the NPT. If it tries to violate that, then it would be put under sanctions like Iran - and all those exports - which form the basis of Bangladesh's economic growth would evaporate the next day.

Sorry, but Bangladesh can never be a threat of any kind to India.

EDIT: With Bangladesh choosing to go the other way in its development - ie BD focusing on increasing literacy and employment in its country, it would lead to a more peaceable state unlike Pakistani population which is militaristic and jehad oriented because it is illiterate and without social safety.

Such a peaceable,educated and developed population automatically precludes rhetoric based opposition and war mongering . Ofcourse this is not the case now, but seeing BD's direction, it will be so in a couple of decades.
 
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The question is that during the 1971 war when there was a civil strife in then East Pakistan, India decided to take advantage of the civil strige and invaded Pakistan against all international laws. Their agenda was to disintegrate Pakistan while appealing to the eastern Pakistanis as their 'saviors', hence trying to score two hits with one shot.

Since the war is over and Bangladesh is now a free nation, i am interested in asking from the Bangladeshis on this forum, if or not today in 2013, they accept India as their 'savior' for invading in a domestic conflict of a sovereign nation, or not. What role does India play in the psyche and the history of Bangladesh for the Bangladeshi youth??

Please participate in a civil debate and the poll.

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Why do Bangladeshis need to be thankful to India.... they deserved Independence.... they gave their blood for it. its their to cherish... Maintaining a cordial relation with India would be a good tribute to India's help.
 
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The fact that Bangladesh may become hostile in the future is predicated on the presence of core disputes between India and Bangladesh.
Like India and Pakistan have a core dispute regarding Kashmir.
India and China have a core dispute regarding Arunachal Pradesh.

India and Bangladesh have no core disputes. India and BD have already demarcated the land boundary agreement mutually. India still has to get it ratified by its Parliament, but for all intents and purposes, both India and BD have agreed on what each of them is willing to settle with. India being a generous party willing to cede an extra 10,000 acres of land to Bangladesh.

In the absence of such a core dispute, any hostility of India towards BD or BD towards India would remain temporary or passing. Certainly not even close to what is required to start putting their respective military on their borders.

That was the political aspect.
Now let us consider the military aspect.

1. With a land area that is smaller than Pakistan and a population that is equal to Pakistan in a region that is frequently hit by natural disasters and without the billions of economic and military aid that Pakistan gets annually and the constant diplomatic support of USA and China - it would be unlikely that Bangladesh would have the resources to raise a military that is equal to Pakistan's despite being able to make an economy as big as Pakistan's in say a decade and a half or two.

2. Even if Bangladesh were able to raise a military as big as what Pakistan fields today...Pakistan's military is not at all impressive or formidable in comparison to India without the threat of nuclear weapons.

So even if Bangladesh manages to make a military that is the equivalent of what Pakistan has now after a couple of decades, Indian military would still not consider it as a major threat by even today's Indian standards! Let alone the fact that in a couple of decades India would have grown further and added more military muscle than the rest of South Asia put together.

Let me put it in simple terms - India of today can easily beat a Pakistan sized military of Bangladesh a couple of decades from now. Think what kind of military India would have of its own a couple of decades from now.

The bottomline - Unless Bangladesh were to get nuclear weapons - regardless of what they add up in their economy and military, they would still never be a military threat to India.

And Bangladesh now cannot get nuclear weapons because it has signed the NPT. If it tries to violate that, then it would be put under sanctions like Iran - and all those exports - which form the basis of Bangladesh's economic growth would evaporate the next day.

Sorry, but Bangladesh can never be a threat of any kind to India.
Unless of course you future (Harvard educated...like Bush)foreign minister plans to invade Bangladesh...trust me we would LOVE to be reunited with our brothers again!
 
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Unless of course you future (Harvard educated...like Bush)foreign minister plans to invade Bangladesh...trust me we would LOVE to be reunited with our brothers again!
Forgive me but I did not understand.
Who do you imply here?
Bengalis of India(West Bengal) or Pakistan?
 
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Unless of course you future (Harvard educated...like Bush)foreign minister plans to invade Bangladesh...trust me we would LOVE to be reunited with our brothers again!
Please don't wait for such a scenario its lik imran khan saying "we'd stop Nato supplies if drone strikes during talks ".. we would love to see the brothers unite again and hope for return of East Pakistan... But don expect India to help u by Invading cause only thing that BD has to offer is a sea of humanity which by this time you should know that is the last thing India wants
 
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