Once home of the Calipha - Istanbul

[Indos]

DAFUQ is wrong with this video?? 0:42...they show SS badge on helmet

Turkish nazis? They are white, might have supremacists

Nope, you need to understand that in Muslim countries we dont have law like in Western countries that forbid any thing Nazy related. And some Muslim could use that since they have anti-Israeli sentiment.

Here even one of Indonesian musician, Ahmad Dhani, which has Islamist tendency, use Nazy Military uniform when he make a song for Prabowo-Hatta President candidacy six years ago, and yes Western nations protested the Nazy related uniform.

Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم did indeed praise the man and his army who will conquer Constantinople, but it's not certain that this is a reference to the Ottoman Fatih Mehmet or whatever his name was. That's because now Muslims have realized that there is to be a future conquest of Constantinople that hasn't transpired yet. How do we know this? Because the Hadith say that Constantinople shall be conquered by the Muslims after the Malhama but just prior to the emergence of the Antichrist.
That means either sometime in the future Constantinople shall be retaken by the non-Muslims, or that the present nation of Turkey will turn its back on Islam once again and that the city of Istanbul will be conquered by another Muslim force that will be at war with the Republic of Turkey.
Now keep in mind the Prophet said "You shall fight the Turks". This was first fulfilled during the Arab-Khazar wars when the Arab Muslim first encountered a warlike Turkic people in the Caucasus. It culminated in the Mongol Golden Horde in the 13th century that devastated the Muslim lands, putting perhaps tens of millions of Muslims to the sword.
These Turks and Mongols were the hordes of Gog & Magog, even the Muslims at that time realized it. Yes, they subsequently converted to Islam, but their conversion was often hollow, like the conversion of the Bedouins in the early days of Islam. The Quran itself said about those Bedouins that they shouldn't say "we believe" only "we have become Muslims" as Faith has not yet penetrated into their hearts.
In other words, these Turks were basically kachchay Musalman, they continued to practice their pre-Islamic customs and lifestyle and didn't contribute much to the intellectual heritage of Islam, unlike the Persians and Iranians before them. They never produced great Ulama, they did become the face of Islam's strength and military glory.

Yup, future Constantinopel conquere is throug Non Military conquest, prophet Muhammad describe it as using Takbir ( Any policy/words that suggest Allah is the biggest which is made by all Islamist around the world).

Did you see that anti Islam Turkish military rule has been taken down now ................

There are two hadith about the conquer of Constantinopel and the two are not related, prophet Muhammad praise the soldiers who make the first conquest

The second conquest when prophet Muhammad talk about will be done in non military effort and it is clear Turkish Islamist power do it using political means

 

[Indus Pakistan]

The article is from 2011. Since then Erdogan has gotten the Turkish military and intelligence to very prominently get involved in Syria on the side of very non-secular Syrian "moderate rebels" including supplying them with poison gas.

In fact, one of the very first "Syrian rebel" was a Turkish sniper killing Syrian civilians somewhere in Damascus.

No idea what Tuirkish foreign policy in pursuit of their strategic interests which incidentally match NATO and US aims has anything to do with this thread. As you know they are against Bashar Asad.

And 2011. Precisely. Sultan Erogan has had 9 years to make Islamic Republic in the same mould as Islamic republic of Pakistan. He has done no such thing. Instead he has turned Istanbul from Paris toward London. Hijabs banned in France but as you know are accepted in London.

If he did that in Pakistan, he would probably be lynched and rightly so.

You got it boss. Don't care which posh area of Lahore or Karachi. If he tried this he would be lynched.

I NEVER want to adopt for our people is the obsession white/western women have with wanting to breed with blacks. Another thing is, WHY are these white/western women obsessed with dating and breeding with blacks/africans?

I agree. It runs counter-intuitive. Why dumb down your IQ. Besides what message are these women giving about their own men?

 

[jamahir]

The one that get attacked by poison guys are Rebel hospital, look bro PDF members are people who follow the news, you cannot easily manipulate the fact with your own words without providing any credible sources.

It is well investigated and has been under UN investigation team

Indos brother, I am not hired by the Syrian government to support it without good judgement.

I used to follow the Syria war for the first few years, that is how I know the 2011 sniper incident. You mention the UN investigation team. You ask yourself, why is it that when the team was just due to arrive in Syria the gas attack happened.

I quote this post from 2018 in a thread by our Israeli member @500 who is forever hating on Assad. The below post is by @Gomig-21 who is an Egyptian living in USA :

As much as I don't like Assad (and his father was one of the worst criminals in the unfortunate history of Arab dictators,) I find it really hard to believe that he or his forces would use any type of chemical weapons during this conflict and especially at this stage. To do that, he's compromising everything and everyone that has kept him in power through these brutal 6 years. The Iranians, Hezbollah and most of all, Russia.

I don't even believe he was responsible for the previous chemical attack that resulted in all those US cruise missiles raining down on that airbase. Same story there. This is really the dumbest thing he could possibly do at this point and why would he do it? Makes absolutely no sense at all and this is pretty clear and smells of some type of set up.

And then this post by @A.M. a Pakistani-American in the same thread :

Looks like our resident propagandist @500 is still quite active.

Assad has won the war, he doesn't need to invite unnecessary attention to Syria, the only ones who do are the ones who planned this attack. RIP to the dead.

And this post by @Yingluck ( a Thai person living in Vietnam ) in the same thread :

As a result of the total surrender of the Jihadis previously in control of Douma on Sunday, it is the Russian military who this time are in control of the alleged crime scene.

This has put the Russians in a position where for the first time they are able both to invite the OPCW inspectors to attend the crime scene and to provide them with protection if they are there, whilst at the same time monitoring and supervising their work.

If the chemical attack on Douma really is fictitious – as the Russians insist it is – then for the first time their control of the crime scene puts the Russians in a strong position to prove it.

The point was made forcefully by Russia’s UN ambassador Vassily Nebenzia at the UN Security Council session today, and it also received indirect backing from the UN Secretariat, who admitted that they could not confirm that a chemical weapons attack had happened, and who called upon all sides to show restraint until a proper investigation of the incident had taken place.

Nebenzia followed this up by inviting OPCW inspectors to the scene as early as tomorrow Tuesday.

By now it should surprise no-one that the fact that the Russians are in control of the crime scene and may on this occasion be able to prove conclusively that no chemical weapons attack happened in Douma, instead of deterring a US attack, is actually making it more likely.

This is because the credibility of the various ‘witnesses’ to the Douma attack – who are of course the same witnesses who were previously ‘witnesses’ to the 2013 East Ghouta and the 2017 Khan Sheikhoun attacks – is now on the line, as is the credibility of those Western governments – first and foremost the US government – who believed or who pretended to believe them.

I would add that not only is the credibility of the US government and of other Western governments on the line. So is the credibility of Western journalists who also believed or pretended to believe the ‘witnesses’.

Please search the posts of @Syrian Lion who is a Syrian Christian. In the war at least he is pro-Assad. On his profile page you will find link to his YouTube page where there are vids about the true facts of the Syria war. I hope Syrian Lion is well because he has not been active on the forum for some years.

No idea what Tuirkish foreign policy in pursuit of their strategic interests which incidentally match NATO and US aims has anything to do with this thread.

Well, I just thought there was contradiction in what Erdogan told the Egyptian MB and what he did regarding the policies of his own country.

As you know they are against Bashar Asad.

Yes.

And 2011. Precisely. Sultan Erogan has had 9 years to make Islamic Republic in the same mould as Islamic republic of Pakistan. He has done no such thing. Instead he has turned Istanbul from Paris toward London. Hijabs banned in France but as you know are accepted in London.

Right.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Well, I just thought there was contradiction in what Erdogan told the Egyptian MB and what he did regarding the policies of his own country.

What is surprising about. Foreign policy is not based on who you love but who can deliver your interests. Which is why USA dined with Mujihadeen in 1980s and is big on Uighur Muslims whereas Pakistani's are mum on that but big on pork snorting athiest Chinese.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

No idea what Tuirkish foreign policy in pursuit of their strategic interests which incidentally match NATO and US aims has anything to do with this thread. As you know they are against Bashar Asad.

And 2011. Precisely. Sultan Erogan has had 9 years to make Islamic Republic in the same mould as Islamic republic of Pakistan. He has done no such thing. Instead he has turned Istanbul from Paris toward London. Hijabs banned in France but as you know are accepted in London.

You got it boss. Don't care which posh area of Lahore or Karachi. If he tried this he would be lynched.

I agree. It runs counter-intuitive. Why dumb down your IQ. Besides what message are these women giving about their own men?

What is your take on WHY high IQ white Western women want to breed with men of black African descent?

 

[Indos]

What is your take on WHY high IQ white Western women want to breed with men of black African descent?

Man, you are too racist here, it is let to the women who they want to marry with....If they choose the Black African, it shows they are happy with them and woman dont take skin color as some preferred quality to find the right guys, they pick the strongest or brighest man they could and see through the personality and financial capability of the man as potential husband of her. It is also why Indonesian future basketball superstar who has African blood (Indonesian African mix) has white skin Indonesian girl friend,

Man face and skin color is just an additional factors for them, but of course many White women also follow White supremacy sentiments this is why mix marriage between White woman and Black guys are still so small.

Women usually compete with other women in relation to which one has the brighter skin and woman with darker skin could sometime feel inferior to the woman with brighter skin (which I think should not be the case) and also which one has better look

But this kind of thing is not part of man competition to each other since man usually dont see other man skin color, man frienship is more honest and the competion between them is related to power, braveness, sport, and brain, while I see many pretty women prefer to have friendship with other pretty women....It is because women is usually ranked by their look while man is ranked by their power (brain, financial independency, bravery, and other)

You can see in this dark skin Indonesian man can have pretty White women....

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Man, you are too racist here, it is let to the women who they want to marry with....If they choose the Black African, it shows they are happy with them and woman dont take skin color as some preferred quality to find the right guys, they pick the strongest or brighest man they could and see through the personality and financial capability of the man as potential husband of her. It is also why Indonesian future basketball superstar who has African blood (Indonesian African mix) has white skin Indonesian girl friend,

Man face and skin color is just an additional factors for them, but of course many White women also follow White supremacy sentiments this is why mix marriage between White woman and Black guys are still so small.

Women usually compete with other women in relation to which one has the brighter skin and woman with darker skin could sometime feel inferior to the woman with brighter skin (which I think should not be the case) and also which one has better look

But this kind of thing is not part of man competition to each other since man usually dont see other man skin color, man frienship is more honest and the competion between them is related to power, braveness, sport, and brain, while I see many pretty women prefer to have friendship with other pretty women....It is because women is usually ranked by their look while man is ranked by their power (brain, financial independency, bravery, and other)

You can see in this dark skin Indonesian man can have pretty White women....

I couldn't care less. I was asking WHAT was the reason behind this. Brother indus stated that we should follow the Western way of thinking and while I agree with most of what he says, I do not want Pakistani women to become like white women. From a personal point of view, I am ONLY physically attracted to Pakistani, Afghan and Iranian women. I have 0 feelings for the women of ALL other races.

And no, white women breeding with blacks/africans is NOT a minority or a small thing. In the UK a new race has emerged that is the result of the union of white English women breeding with black men of African descent.

 

[Mandalorian_CA]

I couldn't care less. I was asking WHAT was the reason behind this. Brother indus stated that we should follow the Western way of thinking and while I agree with most of what he says, I do not want Pakistani women to become like white women. From a personal point of view, I am ONLY physically attracted to Pakistani, Afghan and Iranian women. I have 0 feelings for the women of ALL other races.

And no, white women breeding with blacks/africans is NOT a minority or a small thing. In the UK a new race has emerged that is the result of the union of white English women breeding with black men of African descent.

The reason behind this is a white canadian women said herself , they prefer blacks because they can keep black men at their toes like "neechay laga kar rakhna " easy to control. similary they marry cuban guys too these days coz they are second in like to blacks easy to control and they want canadian pr. Also due the black lives matter trend to sympathize they want to show that not all whites are racist . Bro you see lots of White English women breeding with brown men too its very common in UK . You will be shocked to see every every white girl is with black guy in Canada.

 

[Varunastra]

Nope, you need to understand that in Muslim countries we dont have law like in Western countries that forbid any thing Nazy related. And some Muslim could use that since they have anti-Israeli sentiment.

Here even one of Indonesian musician, Ahmad Dhani, which has Islamist tendency, use Nazy Military uniform when he make a song for Prabowo-Hatta President candidacy six years ago, and yes Western nations protested the Nazy related uniform.

I don't think many governments worldwide have banned nazi symbols. And for good reason, like they misused our hindu swastika right? It would have caused problems for hindus worldwide if our swastika was banned

I guess it's the reason for the using the symbol that makes the difference, like if you are using it for media purposes like a documentary, movie/comedy sketch, hindu rituals it's ok. You are using it to show white supremacy etc, that's not okay.
If I'm not wrong thailand has a major nazi fetish but not for the supremacy reasons, more of a fascination without knowing historical contexts.

 

[Indos]

I couldn't care less. I was asking WHAT was the reason behind this. Brother indus stated that we should follow the Western way of thinking and while I agree with most of what he says, I do not want Pakistani women to become like white women. From a personal point of view, I am ONLY physically attracted to Pakistani, Afghan and Iranian women. I have 0 feelings for the women of ALL other races.

And no, white women breeding with blacks/africans is NOT a minority or a small thing. In the UK a new race has emerged that is the result of the union of white English women breeding with black men of African descent.

Well, you dont need to be afraid in relation on your Pakistani women since 95 % of Pakistani are Muslim, this will prevent them marrying outside Muslim group in which Black African living in Western countries are in large majority are Christian.

In the mean time, Muslim and non Muslim African guys dont have urge to live in Pakistan and Pakistan doesnt have liberal immigration law as well. But previous history of Black African Muslim in Pakistan do show the mass scale of mixed married do exist between them with Pakistani native women since there is no religious barrier.

Men, you are too racist here, how do you think if any African guys read what you said here, I have read many of your post regarding black guys ......Any way prophet Adam and mother Hawa are very likely look like African man and woman. If you dont like them, just keep it in your heart, since what you have stated in many of your posts can hurt some ones heart and it could be women as well

Talking about your feeling about other women race which is zero according to you, it is great since you are most probably married man already, so less urge when you see pretty women from other race if what you stated is an honest statement

Well if you see many White women married black guys so it means what I think as the reasons might be true in reality, women dont really care on man skin color, they will probably also feel really wanted by her Black partner, something that they dont see happening with their own White guys partner

 

[Mandalorian_CA]

Well, you dont need to be afraid in relation on your Pakistani women since 95 % of Pakistani are Muslim, this will prevent them marrying outside Muslim group in which Black African living in Western countries are in large majority are Christian.

In the mean time, Muslim and non Muslim African guys dont have urge to live in Pakistan and Pakistan doesnt have liberal immigration law as well. But previous history of Black African Muslim in Pakistan do show the mass scale of mixed married do exist between them with Pakistani native women since there is no religious barrier.

Men, you are too racist here, how do you think if any African guys read what you said here, I have read many of your post regarding black guys ......Any way prophet Adam and mother Hawa are very likely look like African man and woman. If you dont like them, just keep it in your heart, since what you have stated in many of your posts can hurt some ones heart and it could be women as well

Talking about your feeling about other women race which is zero according to you, it is great since you are most probably married man already, so less urge when you see pretty women from other race if what you stated is an honest statement

Well if you see many White women married black guys so it means what I think as the reasons might be true in reality, women dont really care on man skin color, they will probably also feel really wanted by her Black partner, something that they dont see happening with their own White guys partner

you are far away from reality my friend. You have no idea whats happening in the west, In the west women are very concious about appearance and skin color is on top of the line when it comes to dating or marriage.
That video you already shared some years ago too . Eastern european, russian or ukrainian women are not hard to get . All they need is western nationality or money.

 

[Indos]

you are far away from reality my friend. You have no idea whats happening in the west, In the west women are very concious about appearance and skin color is on top of the line when it comes to dating or marriage.
That video you already shared some years ago too . Eastern european, russian or ukrainian women are not hard to get . All they need is western nationality or money.

That girl I posted has decent house in her hometown, not coming from poor family. There are many example but I actually like that women personality so I like to post her in here. Many Indonesian man also marry pretty White women in US and Europe but they live in the West, so not really interested for me to bring it here

I see women dont have any issues dating other race which become the main topic of discussion here. Here this Iranian women also has been engaged with this Indonesian man.

 

[ARMalik]

I have a particular political and social view point on Islam, mullahs and it's destructive effect on Pakistan since 1947.

There is absolutely no doubt that the destruction the Mullahs have bought to this country is simply immeasurable, and beyond comprehension by 99% of Pakistanis.