Sultan Mehmed Fateh

[shuntmaster]

Also wrong Ottoman Empire got bigger and stronger after the fall of Constantinople, the era of Sultan Süleyman the Magnificent from 1520 - 1566 is considered as the climax of Ottoman empire.

Strength is relative. After fall of Constantinople, Europe came out of its dark ages and started getting stronger. As Europe got stronger, ottoman empire got relatively weaker.. Turkish power might have peaked much after the capture of Eastern Roman empire, but its standing in the global power equations had already started waning. Russia defeated the Ottoman empire in the first Russo-Turkish war of 1568-1570 (Astrakhan Expedition).

 

[xenon54 out]

Strength is relative. After fall of Constantinople, Europe came out of its dark ages and started getting stronger. As Europe got stronger, ottoman empire got relatively weaker.. Turkish power might have peaked much after the capture of Eastern Roman empire, but its standing in the global power equations had already started waning. Russia defeated the Ottoman empire in the first Russo-Turkish war of 1568-1570 (Astrakhan Expedition).

Well, its still debatable if the fall of Constantinople had something to do with Europe coming out of dark ages to Renaissance, there are many theorys about this, me on my part dont see any connection.

Also the decline of ottoman empire was not only due to Europeans getting stronger but the Empire itself.

There is this video explaining the decline of Ottoman Empire, its very good i would recommend it.

 

[shuntmaster]

Well, its still debattable if the fall of Constantinople had something to do with Europe coming out of dark ages to Renaissance, there are many theorys about this, me on my part dont see any connection.

The Fall of Constantinople marks the end of the Middle Ages and the beginning of a new epoch in Europe. Many Greek scholars moved to Italy, initiating there the development of European Humanism, while the legal succession of Byzantium and leadership of the Orthodox Church transferred to Russian Tsardom and the '3rd Rome' in Moscow. By losing access to the Black Sea Europe was deprived of the land route to India; the search for a new sea route brought about the oversea discoveries of the New World.
When Constantinople fell in 1453 it lead to the destruction of the greatest empire the world has ever seen. The Roman Empire had lasted almost 2000 years it spanned the whole known world, and when a bunch of Muslims destroyed it. The world changed from medieval to the age of exploration. The fall of Constantinople also stimulated the age of European exploration. Basically it helped to create our modern world. How would the world have turned out if Constantinople have not fallen?
The fall of Constantinople also had profound consequences for Europe. Many Greeks and other Balkan peoples, fearing death or forced conversion to Islam, fled westward across the Adriatic Sea to Italy. Many of these refugees took with them vast riches of ancient art and knowledge, helping to ignite the Renaissance.

 

[-SINAN-]

If Allah wanted Constantinople so much, why did it take his followers 700 years to conquer it?

We have a saying that we use sometimes when Allah's name is used unnecessarily ;

"Keep Allah out of this business"

 

[xenon54 out]

The Fall of Constantinople marks the end of the Middle Ages and the beginning of a new epoch in Europe. Many Greek scholars moved to Italy, initiating there the development of European Humanism, while the legal succession of Byzantium and leadership of the Orthodox Church transferred to Russian Tsardom and the '3rd Rome' in Moscow. By losing access to the Black Sea Europe was deprived of the land route to India; the search for a new sea route brought about the oversea discoveries of the New World.
When Constantinople fell in 1453 it lead to the destruction of the greatest empire the world has ever seen. The Roman Empire had lasted almost 2000 years it spanned the whole known world, and when a bunch of Muslims destroyed it. The world changed from medieval to the age of exploration. The fall of Constantinople also stimulated the age of European exploration. Basically it helped to create our modern world. How would the world have turned out if Constantinople have not fallen?
The fall of Constantinople also had profound consequences for Europe. Many Greeks and other Balkan peoples, fearing death or forced conversion to Islam, fled westward across the Adriatic Sea to Italy. Many of these refugees took with them vast riches of ancient art and knowledge, helping to ignite the Renaissance.

You forgot to copy this part my friend.

There is a consensus that the Renaissance began in Florence, Italy, in the 14th century.[4] Various theories have been proposed to account for its origins and characteristics, focusing on a variety of factors including the social and civic peculiarities of Florence at the time; its political structure; the patronage of its dominant family, the Medici;[5][6] and the migration of Greek scholars and texts to Italy following the Fall of Constantinople at the hands of the Ottoman Turks.[7][8][9]

Renaissance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[shuntmaster]

by the start of 20th century, Turkey was no longer a threat to Europe. The Ottoman empire was a threat in 15th-18th centuries..

The Europeans united to throw out the Muslims from Spain soon after the fall of Constantinople. Later, Spain and Portugal was at the forefront of discovering and colonizing the new world and discovering sea routes to the Indies & orient.

 

[shuntmaster]

You forgot to copy this part my friend.



Renaissance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

From your own post it says

There is a consensus that the Renaissance began in Florence, Italy, in the 14th century.Various theories have been proposed to account for its origins and characteristics, focusing on a variety of factors including the social and civic peculiarities of Florence at the time; its political structure; the patronage of its dominant family, the Medici;and the migration of Greek scholars and texts to Italy following the Fall of Constantinople at the hands of the Ottoman Turks.

 

[xenon54 out]

From your own post it says

Pay attention it says its one of the theorys.

There is a consensus that the Renaissance began in Florence, Italy, in the 14th century.Various theories have been proposed to account for its origins and characteristics, focusing on a variety of factors including the social and civic peculiarities of Florence at the time; its political structure; the patronage of its dominant family, the Medici;and the migration of Greek scholars and texts to Italy following the Fall of Constantinople at the hands of the Ottoman Turks.

Constantinople was conquered in 1453 a half century after 14th century.

 

[shuntmaster]

Pay attention it says its one of the theorys.



Constantinople was conquered in 1453 a half century after 14th century.

Renaissance didn't happen overnight... It was process over centuries.. The fall of Constantinople was a big catalyst in speeding it. The other big catalyst was the wealth which came from the new world. The invention of the printing press was also a big factor. Reformation movement in the Christian Church was another big factor.

 

[xenon54 out]

Renaissance didn't happen overnight... It was process over centuries.. The fall of Constantinople was a big catalyst in speeding it. The other big catalyst was the wealth which came from the new world.

Thats the point where we can agree.

 

[shuntmaster]

Thats the point where we can agree.

Yeah.. The fall of Constantinople did more good to Europe on long term than the loss.
If Constantinople had not fallen, there was no much motivation for the Europeans to look for a new sea route to India. Once the Europeans started going out to sea discoveries of new worlds was inevitable. The riches of the new worlds and direct trade with orient was the fuel for the spurt of European renaissance.

The fall of Constantinople to the Ottomans in 1453 by itself was a small and insignificant event when seen in grand scale of world history, but its ripple effects is felt by all of us even today. Most of those ripple effects didn't go well for the Muslim world on the long term. This is the law of unintended consequences..

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW said that who ever will conquer it will have Jannah and his Army too


and soon we would come after India

From Constantinople to Delhi - Zaid Hamid
@nair @OrionHunter @he-man @humanfirst @gslv mk3

Thank you for clearing my doubts.

 

[Chak Bamu]

and who was he ?

Did you not read your post? Are you so busy in copy-pasting stuff that you fail to realize what you have done?

Last year you quoted OBL as a scholar without realizing, in response to a post of mine. Now you are asking me about subject-matter of your own post. You are amazing Zarvan.

 

[Targon]

Too much Islamic character is given on his ambition, Mehmed II was seeing himself more like a new Roman Emperor and his state a new Rome, he valued Greek and Italian cultures, he was listening stories of Alexander.

His name and titles in sources is usually

Sultan Muhammed
Sultan Muhammed Khan
Sultan Muhammed Khan-ı Ghazi

With his father's name

Sultan Muhammed Khan kim ol Sultan Murad Khan-ı Ghazi oglıdur
Sultan Muhammed Khan bin Sultan Murad Khan

His name is oftenly spelled Mehemmed, which Turkish name Mehmed is coming from.