On Iran's future possibilities with Sukhoi

[haman10]

We've all heard about the recent russian defense minister's visit to iran and the agreements that were made . quite interestingly , Sokhoi company has recently published a "time schedule" for its new 5th Gen. fighter , the SU-50 .

in this chart , its clear that the company is apparently developing its SU-50 ES for iranian AirForce (20 of this special variation by 2022) . now if its possible i want some civilized discussion on the possibilities . Will russia go on with the deal ? Should iran trust the russians again ?

This Chart Shows All Of The Versions Of Russia's Fifth-generation Fighter Jet | Business Insider

Timeline shows the potential future of Russia's next-gen fighter jet

Pros : 1- iran will have access to an special variation of a 5th Gen fighter jet which will immensely boost our AF to the Alpha and Omega power in the region , providing great extent of Offence and Defense capabilities .

2- will buy iran some time till our own fighter programs mature to the level of mass production .

cons :

previous experience with the unreliable russian officials who are willing to even abandon the signed pacts to satisfy their real-time political needs .

1- S-300 deal .

2- MATF / Mig-i-2000 project .

3-Bushehr Nuclear power plant

i will go on and mention the unjust sanctions approved by russia which was a hard back-swording from russia but that would deviate our discussion .

so what do you think ?

@kollang @Serpentine @New @Arminkh @rahi2357 @SOHEIL @raptor22 @mohsen

 

[Zaalim]

We've all heard about the recent russian defense minister's visit to iran and the agreements that were made . quite interestingly , Sokhoi company has recently published a "time schedule" for its new 5th Gen. fighter , the SU-50 .

in this chart , its clear that the company is apparently developing its SU-50 ES for iranian AirForce (20 of this special variation by 2020) . now ifs its possible i want some civilized discussion on the possibilities . Will russia go on with the deal ? Should iran trust the russians again ?

This Chart Shows All Of The Versions Of Russia's Fifth-generation Fighter Jet | Business Insider

Timeline shows the potential future of Russia's next-gen fighter jet

Pros : 1- iran will have access to an special variation of a 5th Gen fighter jet which will immensely boost our AF to the Alpha and Omega power in the region , providing great extent of Offence and Defense capabilities .

2- will buy iran some time till our own fighter programs mature to the level of mass production .

cons :

previous experience with the unreliable russian officials who are willing to even abandon the signed pacts to satisfy their real-time political needs .

1- S-300 deal .

2- MATF / Mig-i-2000 project .

3-Bushehr Nuclear power plant

i will go on and mention the unjust sanctions approved by russia which was a hard back-swording from russia but that would deviate our discussion .

so what do you think ?

Iran should buy jf-17. Even 20 would be good for you.

 

[farhan_9909]

In the meantime,Iran should strike a deal with Russia for Su-35 as FGFA or the export variant of T-50 will be recieved by india in 2024-25,so expect a export to third party no earlier than 2028-29

 

[haman10]

In the meantime,Iran should strike a deal with Russia for Su-35 as FGFA or the export variant of T-50 will be recieved by india in 2024-25,so expect a export to third party no earlier than 2028-29

the timeline published by sokhoi states otherwise .

all 20 of them are received before 2022 if the deal is made

 

[Zaalim]

What is Iran's inventory regarding fighters?

 

[SrNair]

We've all heard about the recent russian defense minister's visit to iran and the agreements that were made . quite interestingly , Sokhoi company has recently published a "time schedule" for its new 5th Gen. fighter , the SU-50 .

in this chart , its clear that the company is apparently developing its SU-50 ES for iranian AirForce (20 of this special variation by 2020) . now ifs its possible i want some civilized discussion on the possibilities . Will russia go on with the deal ? Should iran trust the russians again ?

This Chart Shows All Of The Versions Of Russia's Fifth-generation Fighter Jet | Business Insider

Timeline shows the potential future of Russia's next-gen fighter jet

Pros : 1- iran will have access to an special variation of a 5th Gen fighter jet which will immensely boost our AF to the Alpha and Omega power in the region , providing great extent of Offence and Defense capabilities .

2- will buy iran some time till our own fighter programs mature to the level of mass production .

cons :

previous experience with the unreliable russian officials who are willing to even abandon the signed pacts to satisfy their real-time political needs .

1- S-300 deal .

2- MATF / Mig-i-2000 project .

3-Bushehr Nuclear power plant

i will go on and mention the unjust sanctions approved by russia which was a hard back-swording from russia but that would deviate our discussion .

so what do you think ?

@kollang @Serpentine @New @Arminkh @rahi2357 @SOHEIL @raptor22 @mohsen

That system is impressive .We have also invested in it.
If Iran purchase it it would be a game changer .Your power projection will expand to entire middle east.

 

[haman10]

What is Iran's inventory regarding fighters?

Iran Military News | Page 16

 

[Azeri440]

We've all heard about the recent russian defense minister's visit to iran and the agreements that were made . quite interestingly , Sokhoi company has recently published a "time schedule" for its new 5th Gen. fighter , the SU-50 .

in this chart , its clear that the company is apparently developing its SU-50 ES for iranian AirForce (20 of this special variation by 2022) . now if its possible i want some civilized discussion on the possibilities . Will russia go on with the deal ? Should iran trust the russians again ?

This Chart Shows All Of The Versions Of Russia's Fifth-generation Fighter Jet | Business Insider

Timeline shows the potential future of Russia's next-gen fighter jet

Pros : 1- iran will have access to an special variation of a 5th Gen fighter jet which will immensely boost our AF to the Alpha and Omega power in the region , providing great extent of Offence and Defense capabilities .

2- will buy iran some time till our own fighter programs mature to the level of mass production .

cons :

previous experience with the unreliable russian officials who are willing to even abandon the signed pacts to satisfy their real-time political needs .

1- S-300 deal .

2- MATF / Mig-i-2000 project .

3-Bushehr Nuclear power plant

i will go on and mention the unjust sanctions approved by russia which was a hard back-swording from russia but that would deviate our discussion .

so what do you think ?

@kollang @Serpentine @New @Arminkh @rahi2357 @SOHEIL @raptor22 @mohsen

sorry to break the news
but this is photoshopped

 

[Khalid Newazi]

Russia will threaten US by willing to sell Iran with advanced weapons, they will even provide some and then they will wait. If sanctions aren't lift than they will probably sell more advanced fighter jets.

Don't see any serious deal between the 2 as both are under sanctions and don't have much foreign currency.

Also shouldn't Iran target achieving some 4th and 4.5 Generation jets first. I know that Iran makes its own jets but they are mostly 3rd generation.

 

[Zaalim]

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Iran Military News | Page 16

In that case, you guys should definitely buy jf-17.

 

[farhan_9909]

the timeline published by sokhoi states otherwise .

all 20 of them are received before 2022 if the deal is made

But Ground realities says otherwise,Not even a prototype of FGFA is ready yet.Ask indians,the only problem with russian firms is extreme delay in delivery.

Su-35 is one of the best fighter in the world,Iran already has more than 60Billion dollars reserves,so spending like 6-8Billion dollars for 5 squadrons should not be a big deal.

 

[SrNair]

In the meantime,Iran should strike a deal with Russia for Su-35 as FGFA or the export variant of T-50 will be recieved by india in 2024-25,so expect a export to third party no earlier than 2028-29

There is a possibility in 2021-22

 

[haman10]

Su-35 is one of the best fighter in the world,Iran already has more than 60Billion dollars reserves,so spending like 6-8Billion dollars for 5 squadrons should not be a big deal.

good point , the main issue here is the russians not being trustworthy in their contracts and iranian officials who have lost interest and willingness .

i hope it works out

 

[Zaalim]

But Ground realities says otherwise,Not even a prototype of FGFA is ready yet.Ask indians,the only problem with russian firms is extreme delay in delivery.

Su-35 is one of the best fighter in the world,Iran already has more than 60Billion dollars reserves,so spending like 6-8Billion dollars for 5 squadrons should not be a big deal.

You think Jf-17 is not good for Iranians? Why or why not?

 

[me_itsme]

That is not an official document from sukhoi. It is made by a fan boy