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Oliver Hazard Class Frigate Acquisition by Pakistan

All our ships are overhauled in Turkey, our shipyards are advanced enough to design ships leave alone overhauling. The only case with Pakistani Perry's could be if these ships are given as aid they may have a provision that demands that modernization of it should be done by US companies. (nothing is really for free)

is work on OHP conducted @ Golcuk shipyards, Kocaeli?
 
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is work on OHP conducted @ Golcuk shipyards, Kocaeli?

I am not sure but I think all three military shipyards Golcuk, Tuzla and Pendik are performing the upgrades. Pendik is also the shipyard where the Milgem corvette is currently build.

Military projects are nowadays also given to comercial shipyards, it's part of the state policy to support the Turkish shipbuilding industry to reach high level. The state support is so high that the current nr. of 90+ shipyards have to reach 120+ shipyards in five years to put the Turkish shipbuilding industry in the top 3 of the world.
 
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The United States Navy has 30 Oliver Hazard Perry Class guided missile frigates remaining in service of the 50 built for the US Navy during the 1970s and 1980s. The frigates have a full load displacement of 4,100t. The maximum speed is 30kt and the range at an economical speed is 4,500nm.

The frigates were built by Bath Iron Works (24) in Maine and Todd Shipyards (29) in Seattle and San Pedro, California. Oliver Hazard Perry (FFG 7) entered service in December 1977. The last USN vessel, USS Ingraham (FFG 61) was commissioned in August 1989.

Four ships (FFG 17, 18, 35 and 44) were built for Australia. Australia ordered an additional two new Perry Class ships built by the Williamstown Naval Dockyard (now part of Tenix Defence) – HMAS Melbourne (FFG 05) commissioned in 1992 and HMAS Newcastle (FFG 05) commissioned in 1993.

"The United States Navy has 30 Oliver Hazard Perry Class guided missile frigates in service."Six Santa Maria Class frigates built by Bazan (now Navantia) for the Spanish Navy and eight Chen Kung class built by China SB for Taiwan were built to the Perry Class design.

A number of ships have been decommissioned and transferred to other countries: Bahrain (one), Egypt (four), Poland (two) and Turkey (nine).

In October 2008, the US Government approved the transfer of USS McInerney (FFG-8) to the Pakistan Navy. It is scheduled for handover in August 2010.

Command and control
The frigates' combat data system is the naval tactical data system (NTDS).

The Perry Class weapon control system is the Mark 92 FCS which provides X-band radar surveillance integrated with target tracking and fire control for the guns and missile systems. Lockheed Martin is the design agent for the mk92 FCS which is a US derivative of the Thales Netherlands Signaal WM28 fire control system.

Guns
The ship's main gun is the Oto Melara mk75, 76mm naval gun which fires 6kg anti-aircraft shells to a range of 12km and anti-surface ship rounds to 16km.

The close-in-weapon system is the Raytheon mk15 block 1B Phalanx six-barrel 20mm gun. The CIWS fires 4,500 rounds a minute to a range of 1.5km. Phalanx provides short-range defence against surface and airborne incoming threats including high-speed surface craft.

The ships carry four general-purpose 12.7mm machine guns and can be fitted with 25mm mk38 guns supplied by Boeing.

Missiles
The US ships' surface-to-air and surface-to-surface missiles were removed in 2004 but the ship supports Penguin-missile-armed LAMPS III helicopters.

Other nations' Perry Class frigates retain the missile system capability with the Boeing Harpoon surface-to-surface missiles and Raytheon Standard SM-1MR surface-to-air missiles.

Torpedoes
Torpedoes are fired from two deck-mounted mk32 triple-tube torpedo tubes. The ship's torpedoes are the Alliant Techsystems (ATK) mk46 mod 5 lightweight anti-submarine torpedoes and the ATK mk50 torpedo.

"Oliver Hazard Perry Class entered service in 1977."The mk46 mod 5 has a range of 11km. The torpedo is armed with a 44kg warhead and uses passive and active homing to approach the target at a speed of 40kt.

The mk50 torpedo is armed with a 45kg shaped charge warhead and has a range of 15km. The torpedo uses active and passive homing and has a speed of 50kt.

Aircraft
The ship accommodates two Sikorsky SH-60B LAMPS III Seahawk helicopters. The ship has two hangars and a 410m² helicopter deck fitted with a single landing spot and a RAST recovery assist securing and traversing system. The ship is equipped to support LAMPS (light airborne multipurpose system) missions.

The ship's AN/URN-25 TACAN tactical air navigation transponder provides aircraft with data on range, bearing and identification. The IFF interrogator is the mkXII AIMS UPX-29.

The SH-60B LAMPS mkIII helicopter has all weather capability for point defence against submarines and surface ships, and can also carry out fleet support, vertical replenishment, search and rescue and medical evacuation.

Countermeasures
The Perry Class frigates have two deck-mounted six-barrelled SRBOC mk36 decoy dispensers. The Lockheed Martin Sippican super rapid bloom offboard countermeasures SRBOC mk36 launches infrared and chaff flares to counter electro-optically and radar guided missiles and fire control systems.

The Perry Class is also fitted with the BAE Systems Australia mk53 Nulka active expendable decoys for protection against radar-guided anti-ship missiles. Nulka is rocket-propelled and operates over a broad radio band.

The torpedo decoys are the older T-Mk 6 Fanfare towed decoy or the Argon ST SLQ-25 Nixie towed decoy.

The Perry Class frigates are equipped with the Raytheon SLQ-32(V)2 radar warning and jamming electronic warfare system. The AN/SLQ-32(V) detects hostile radar emissions and analyses the pulse repetition rate, scan mode, scan period, and frequency. The system identifies the threat and direction, provides a warning signal, interfaces to the ship's countermeasures systems and jams the hostile radar systems.

"The Oliver Hazard Perry Class accommodates two Sikorsky SH-60B LAMPS III Seahawk helicopters."Sensors
The ship's radar suite includes the Raytheon SPS-49(V)5 or (V)4 air search radar which operates over C and D bands. The radar detects aircraft to a range of 460km. The surface search radar is the ISC Cardion SPS-55 radar operating at I-band.

The Oto Melara mk75 gun is linked to the Sperry 92 fire control radar operating at I and J bands. The Furuno navigation radar also operates at I band.

Sonar
The ship is fitted with a AN/SQQ-89 (CV)2 anti-submarine warfare (ASW) combat system. The system integrates a Raytheon SQS-56 active and passive hull-mounted sonar and a Gould SQR-19 towed sonar array. The system displays the data from the sonar suite and from the helicopter LAMPS sensors and provides detection, classification, designation and targeting of submarines.

Propulsion
The propulsion system is based on two GE LM 2500 gas turbine engines generating 30.59MW (41,000shp) and driving a single shaft with a constant pitch propeller. There are two auxiliary retractable propellers (484kW / 650hp) for manoeuvring and station keeping.
 
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I am not sure but I think all three military shipyards Golcuk, Tuzla and Pendik are performing the upgrades. Pendik is also the shipyard where the Milgem corvette is currently build.

Military projects are nowadays also given to comercial shipyards, it's part of the state policy to support the Turkish shipbuilding industry to reach high level. The state support is so high that the current nr. of 90+ shipyards have to reach 120+ shipyards in five years to put the Turkish shipbuilding industry in the top 3 of the world.

i visited golcuk shipyards a few years back and i was impressed....some of it was cordoned off since i was only visitor, but it was good time.

i would post pictures but my hard-drive crashed, and i dont think it would be wise to put them on net anyways.


I say "Guclu Turkiye"

:cheers:
 
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They managed to equip the Adelaide Class with a 8 cell Mk.41

My point exactly: they didn't go for a replacement of the Mk13 but for a complement to it. IIRC there some structural issue that arose when the self defence Mk41 was installed (the OHP design doesn't have a lot of margin to add weight/displacement)
 
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Taiwan To Buy Perry-Class Frigates From U.S.: Report
AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE
Published: 11 Jan 2010 10:11 Print | Email
TAIPEI, Taiwan - Taiwan plans to buy eight second-hand Perry-class frigates from the United States despite improved ties with once-bitter foe China, a newspaper reported Jan. 11.



The deal with the United States would add to the existing Taiwanese inventory, as it already has eight Perry-class frigates built on the island. (AFP) The island hopes to arm them with a version of the advanced Aegis Combat System, which uses computers and radar to take out multiple targets, as well as sophisticated missile launch technology, the Taipei-based China Times said.


The defense ministry said in a reaction to the report that aging frigates now serving the navy needed to be phased out, but that it had not yet decided on the type of vessels that would replace them.

"The overall strategy of the armed forces will be taken into consideration as the defense ministry evaluates the plan," it said in a statement, adding that the budget would be another factor to be weighed.

The United States designed the Perry-class frigates in the 1970s and most remain in service, equipped with various forms of modern technology. The deal would add to Taiwan's existing inventory, as it already has eight Perry-class frigates built on the island.

The China Times report came less than a week after the U.S. said it had approved the sale of Patriot missile equipment to Taiwan as part of a package passed by Congress more than a year ago.

When unveiled in 2008, the package triggered strong protests from Beijing, which considers Taiwan part of its territory and has vowed to take the island back by force if necessary.

The United States is the leading arms supplier to self-ruled Taiwan, even though it switched diplomatic recognition from Taipei to Beijing in 1979.

Ties between Taipei and Beijing have improved markedly since China-friendly Ma Ying-jeou came to power in 2008, promising to boost trade ties and allowing in more Chinese tourists.



This is probably where the other OHP's are going to and pakistan is probably only procuring one after all.:hitwall:
 
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This is probably where the other OHP's are going to and pakistan is probably only procuring one after all.:hitwall:

Why would the Taiwanese interest interfere with the Pakistani interest? After all, the USN still has 30 (thirty!) OHPs in service. As many as 10 will remain in service through 2019 (i.e. at least 20 will be retired by 2019). After McInerney retires from USN this year, it will be 2 years before another OHP becomes available for hot transfer. From then on, they will become available more regularly.

ACTIVE, By pennant number:
FFG-8 McInerney 15-dec-79
FFG-28 Boone 15-mei-82*
FFG-29 Stephen W. Groves 17-apr-82*
FFG-32 John L. Hall 26-jun-82
FFG-33 Jarrett 2-jul-83
FFG-36 Underwood 9-jan-83
FFG-37 Crommelin 18-jun-83*
FFG-38 Curts 8-okt-83*
FFG-39 Doyle 21-mei-83*
FFG-40 Halyburton 7-jan-84
FFG-41 McClusky 10-dec-83*
FFG-42 Klakring 30-aug-83*
FFG-43 Thach 17-mrt-84
FFG-45 Dewert 19-nov-83
FFG-46 Rentz 30-jun-84
FFG-47 Nicholas 10-3-1984
FFG-48 Vandegrift 24-nov-84
FFG-49 Robert G. Bradley 11-aug-84
FFG-50 Taylor 1-dec-84
FFG-51 Gary 17-nov-84
FFG-52 Carr 27-jul-85
FFG-53 Hawes 9-feb-85
FFG-54 Ford 29-jun-85
FFG-55 Elrod 29-jun-85
FFG-56 Simpson 9-nov-85*
FFG-57 Reuben James 22-mrt-86
FFG-58 Samuel B. Roberts 12-apr-86
FFG-59 Kauffman 28-feb-87
FFG-60 Rodney M. Davis 8-mei-87*
FFG-61 Ingraham 5-aug-89
*Naval Reserve Force, Active

ACTIVE By date of commissioning:
FFG-8 McInerney 15-dec-79 (30.2 years old)
FFG-29 Stephen W. Groves 17-apr-82*
FFG-28 Boone 15-mei-82*
FFG-32 John L. Hall 26-jun-82
FFG-36 Underwood 9-jan-83
FFG-39 Doyle 21-mei-83*
FFG-37 Crommelin 18-jun-83*
FFG-33 Jarrett 2-jul-83
FFG-42 Klakring 30-aug-83*
FFG-38 Curts 8-okt-83*
FFG-45 Dewert 19-nov-83
FFG-41 McClusky 10-dec-83*
FFG-40 Halyburton 7-jan-84
FFG-47 Nicholas 10-3-1984
FFG-43 Thach 17-mrt-84
FFG-46 Rentz 30-jun-84
FFG-49 Robert G. Bradley 11-aug-84
FFG-51 Gary 17-nov-84
FFG-48 Vandegrift 24-nov-84
FFG-50 Taylor 1-dec-84 (25.2 years)
FFG-53 Hawes 9-feb-85
FFG-54 Ford 29-jun-85
FFG-55 Elrod 29-jun-85
FFG-52 Carr 27-jul-85
FFG-56 Simpson 9-nov-85*
FFG-57 Reuben James 22-mrt-86
FFG-58 Samuel B. Roberts 12-apr-86
FFG-59 Kauffman 28-feb-87
FFG-60 Rodney M. Davis 8-mei-87*
FFG-61 Ingraham 5-aug-89 (20.5 years old)
*Naval Reserve Force, Active

Stricken
FFG 7 FFG 12 GEORGE PHILIP
FFG 7 FFG 14 SIDES
(Possibly available for cold transfer, but already refused by Turkey because of lesser cost-effectiveness. Most likely uses: spares parts hull, practice target, scrapping)

Disposed
FFG 7 FFG 7 OLIVER HAZARD PERRY > scrapped
FFG 7 FFG 9 WADSWORTH > to Poland (used)
FFG 7 FFG 10 DUNCAN > to Turkey (used)
FFG 7 FFG 11 CLARK > to Poland (used)
FFG 7 FFG 13 SAMUEL ELIOT MORISON > to Turkey (used)
FFG 7 FFG 15 ESTOCIN > to Turkey (used)
FFG 7 FFG 16 CLIFTON SPRAGUE > to Turkey (used)
FFG 7 FFG 17 NO NAME > to Australia (new)
FFG 7 FFG 18 NO NAME > to Australia (new)
FFG 7 FFG 19 JOHN A. MOORE > to Turkey (used)
FFG 7 FFG 20 ANTRIM > to Turkey (used)
FFG 7 FFG 21 FLATLEY > to Turkey (used)
FFG 7 FFG 22 FAHRION > to Egypt (used)
FFG 7 FFG 23 LEWIS B. PULLER > to Egypt (used)
FFG 7 FFG 24 JACK WILLIAMS to Bahrain (used)
FFG 7 FFG 25 COPELAND > to Egypt (used)
FFG 7 FFG 26 GALLERY > to Egypt (used)
FFG 7 FFG 27 MAHLON S. TISDALE > to Turkey (used)
FFG 7 FFG 30 REID > to Turkey (used)
FFG 7 FFG 31 STARK > scrapped
FFG 7 FFG 34 AUBREY FITCH > scrapped
FFG 7 FFG 35 NO NAME > to Australia (new)
FFG 7 FFG 44 NO NAME > to Australia (new)

Ship Status Groups

A total of 33 Perry-class frigates are in use by allied navies, including Australia (2 home built, 4 new import; 2 of these 6 retired), Bahrain (1 used), Egypt (4 used), Turkey (8 active, 1 spares hull), Poland (2 used), Spain (5 home built) and Taiwan (8 home built).
 
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thanks for correcting me i didnt know that there were that many OHP's
 
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dammit turkey got 8 and how many they will give us one

Be fair: McInerney is the only OHP currently becoming available for transfer and PN is getting it. A total of six were offered (in 2005), and AFAIK, six will be transferred upon request by PN (2007), as they are paid off by USN (which will be in the coming years 2012 and beyond). PN will only pay transfer cost, which is very little.
 
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The 76mm Oto Melara Compact gun as well as the Phalanx CIWS are modern. The ship has 2x3 tubes for lightweight ASW torpedos plus 2 ASW helicopters: they don't need ASW rockets. What (if anything) it needs is anti-ship missile capability and a surface-to-air missile capability.

:usflag: time to appreciate US if they do provide us with 6 war ships
 
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:usflag: time to appreciate US if they do provide us with 6 war ships

Sorry, but you implied incorrectly that they are crap ships.

FYI AShM and SAM capability are reinstated easily: just remount the Mk13 launcher arm and the STIR (reason for removal from OHP: SM1 no longer supported in USN as economy measure, but fully supported for all foreign navies). And if the US won't then just fit 2x2 Chinese AShM on racks (similar to what the Taiwanese did) and an FL-3000 (RAM clone) forward and voila, issue resolved. Even with that fit they will by far outclass the Type 21s allround and the F22P in many respects, age notwithstanding.
 
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well what kind of soonar this ship have and which torpedos they use blackshark or what and do they sell us sea hawks with it becoz u mentioned that there is heli pad for 2 helis for anti sub role or PN will buy some more Z9 for these but i felll pn should buy different types of helis for this types of use becoz it enhances the chances to destroy any enemy subs if u have same kind of weapon than it must lack in something and if u have different type of platform u can use other heli advantages to fullfill other helis lacking capabilites and as i know SEA HAWK is worlds most dedicated and technologically best in the bussiness helicopters are very important in ASRC becoz it will keep enemy away from ur multibillion dollar ship and also destroy them if heli will save ur multi billion dollar ship than earn few millions to keep safe ur ships is very cheap deal as we all know in naval warefare subs are most dangerous enemies of ships and as our enemy have alot of subs in its inventory we must buy state of the art helis to give them tough fight reason why i dont want pn to buy Z9 becoz Z9 soonar can not detect enemy subs to 150 m but sea hawk do this
 
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The S-70B Seahawk naval helicopter is manufactured by Sikorsky Aircraft in Stratford, Connecticut. The helicopter is a development of the UH60A Black Hawk US Army Helicopter.

The Seahawk entered service in the US Navy in 1982. 230 Seahawk helicopters are in service with the USN, carrying the designations SH-60B, SH-60R, SH-60F and HH-60H. They are operational on US Navy Oliver Hardy Perry Class frigates, Arleigh Burke and Spruance Class destroyers and the Ticonderoga Class guided-missile cruisers.

The SH-60B is used as a platform for the light airborne multi-purpose subsystem (LAMPS) Mark III mission system for anti-submarine (ASW) and anti-surface warfare (ASUW).

The Seahawk can travel up to 100nm from the host ship and remain on station for several hours. The helicopter carries out all-weather surveillance, search and rescue, missile targeting, anti-surface and anti-submarine warfare and strike-warfare.

The S-70B family also includes the US Coastguard HH-60J Jayhawk. Export versions of the Seahawk are operational with the navies of Australia (16), Greece (ten), Japan (70), Spain (12), Taiwan (20), Thailand (six) and Turkey (seven). The Spanish Navy has received six new SH-60B equipped with LAMPS mkIII and six helicopters already in service have been upgraded to LAMPS mkIII standard. The helicopters are deployed on Santa Maria and Alvaro de Bazan (F100) frigates.

In January 2005, the Singapore Navy ordered six S-70B helicopters to operate from the new Formidable Class frigates. Deliveries are scheduled for 2008 to 2010.

In November 2006, the government of Turkey placed a contract for the acquisition of 17 S-70B Seahawks, with deliveries to begin in 2009.

The Brazilian Navy has ordered four S-70B Seahawks for delivery in 2009. They will be armed with Kongsberg Penguin anti-ship missiles.

Mitsubishi Heavy Industries (MHI) is building under licence a new variant, the SH-60K, for the Japanese Maritime Self-Defence Force. The JMSDF has ordered an initial seven for delivery from 2005. The SH-60K will have a more powerful engine and upgraded avionics compared to the SH-60J in service with the JMSDF and also licence-built by Mitsubishi.

The Seahawk is flown by a crew of four: the pilot, co-pilot and the sensor and weapons systems operators. The cockpit and cabin are fitted with air conditioning, heating and ventilation.

Navigation suite
The Seahawk's navigation suite includes the AN/APS-124 search radar supplied by Raytheon (formerly Texas Instruments), AN/ARN-118(V) Tacan supplied by Rockwell Collins, AN/APN-127 Doppler radar from Teledyne Ryan, AN/ARA-50 UHF direction finding system from Rockwell Collins and the AN/APR-194 (V) radar altimeter from Honeywell.

"The Seahawk can travel up to 100nm from the host ship and remain on station for several hours."Anti-submarine warfare
The helicopter is equipped with a Sikorsky sonobuoy launcher on the port side of the cabin, an ARR-84 receiver, an UYS-1 acoustic processing unit and an ARN-146 on top position indicator that indicates the position over a submerged submarine. The towed magnetic anomaly detector is the AN/ASQ-81 (V)2 supplied by Raytheon.

The helicopter carries two mk46 torpedoes or mk50 ALT advanced lightweight torpedoes from Honeywell.

ANTI-sHIP wARFARE
The Seahawk's anti-ship missile is the AGM-119B Penguin from Kongsberg of Norway. The helicopter also carries the Hellfire air-to-surface missile to engage fast attack craft and small, armed ships. Target acquisition is carried out using the AAS-44 thermal imaging unit with a laser designator.

Countermeasures
The helicopter carries the ALQ-142 electronic support measures system. US Navy Seahawks have also been fitted with AN/ALQ-144 infrared jammers from BAE Systems Information & Electronic Warfare Systems (formerly Sanders), AN/ALE-47 chaff and flare dispensers from Lockheed Martin, AN/AAR-47 missile warners from ATK and the AN/AAS-38 forward-looking infrared from Lockheed Martin.

Engines
The Seahawk is equipped with two General Electric T700-GE-401C turboshaft engines developing 3,400shp. The helicopter's internal fuel tanks hold 2,250l but an in-flight refuelling system can be used in hover mode.

"The Seahawk is able to carry over 1,800kg of cargo."A recovery assist, secure and traversing system reels in the helicopter and guides it to the deck.

A Fairey Hydraulics decklock landing system with an extending two-stage actuator has been used to land and secure the Seahawk to the deck in high sea states without the assistance of the deck crew.

Cargo capacity
The Seahawk is able to carry over 1,800kg of cargo internally. The external cargo hook, rated to carry loads up to 2,725kg, is not installed on all variants of Seahawk.

SH-60F CV Helo variant
The SH-60F CV Helo variant of the Seahawk is equipped to carry out the anti-submarine warfare role in the noisy inner zone of a carrier battle group. It is equipped with the AQS-13F active dipping sonar system, supplied by L-3 Communications – Ocean Systems, an ASN-150 cockpit management and tactical data processing system.

The SH-60F CV Helo does not carry the radar, electronic support measures, magnetic anomaly detectors or air-to-surface missiles which are necessary for open-water operations away from the carrier group. It carries three mk50 torpedoes.

"The SH-60F CV Helo variant is equipped to carry out the ASW role."HH-60 variant
The US Navy's aircraft carrier-based strike rescue and special warfare helicopter is the HH-60H. It is not equipped for anti-surface ship or anti-submarine warfare. The HH-60H Seahawk can carry four crew plus eight troops. It is equipped with the ASN-150 cockpit management system and the ALQ-144 infrared jammer.

The weapons systems include GCAL-50 machine guns and Stinger, Maverick and Hellfire missiles. The cockpit is night vision goggle compatible.

The HH-60H has the capability to recover four crew of a downed aircraft at ranges up to 465km.The aircraft can also fly 370km and drop eight US Navy SEALs from an altitude of 915m.
 
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